

Normalizing Non-Monogamy - Interviews in Polyamory and Swinging
Emma and Fin
Hi! We’re Emma and Fin! We’re a married couple in our thirties who have been exploring non-monogamy for over 15 years. Every week we interview people from across the spectrums of gender, sexuality, and relationship styles to hear their amazing stories.
Many of our guests identify as swingers or polyamorous. However, quite a few have redefined non-monogamy in their own way by creating a unique dynamic that works for them. We hope that by giving a voice to the diverse community exploring non-monogamy that we can show people they are not alone and inspire them to embrace their true selves so that, together, we can open minds and live authentically without shame.
We hope you enjoy the show and who knows, maybe someday you’ll even be up for sharing your own story. We’d love to hear it!
Many of our guests identify as swingers or polyamorous. However, quite a few have redefined non-monogamy in their own way by creating a unique dynamic that works for them. We hope that by giving a voice to the diverse community exploring non-monogamy that we can show people they are not alone and inspire them to embrace their true selves so that, together, we can open minds and live authentically without shame.
We hope you enjoy the show and who knows, maybe someday you’ll even be up for sharing your own story. We’d love to hear it!
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Nov 16, 2022 • 1h 22min
Ep 262 - Rainey + Paco
This conversation with Rainey and Paco is incredible. We laugh, we cry, we laugh some more... Don't skip this one.
These two have been together for about six years, nesting together for two, and recently got married just a few months ago! A few years back, they decided to open their relationship and it's evolved over the years. Their particularly flavor of ethical non-monogamy falls somewhere between swinging and polyamory. It's not a clearly defined boundary but one thing is clear... "It's not JUST sex!"
They come from two very different backgrounds. They've both been married once before. Paco is Puerto Rican and has been breaking away from the "Latin Machismo" and rewriting what it means to be himself. Rainey comes from a very conservative religious background and is coming out of an abusive marriage.
They talk through how they've worked together to overcome jealousy, fears, and so much more to land in the best relationship they've ever had and are more themselves than they've ever been!
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Nov 9, 2022 • 1h 10min
Ep 261 - Taylor
Taylor has been exploring polyamory, swinging, and all kinds of non-monogamy for over a decade at this point. She was married for 25 years, monogamously for about 12, and then Hedonism Resort made an appearance. Thirteen years after opening their relationship, her and her husband separated (not because of non-monogamy and she will prove it to you if you don't believe us) and now she's on her own solo journey and it is incredible.
Taylor can best be described by her own self on her website: www.organicloven.com
Amongst many things, Taylor (aka Mariposa) Sparks is a passionate erotic educator and sex goddess, certified in both holistic aromatherapy and human behavior. With over twenty years of experience in the natural skin care/cosmetics industry, Ms. Sparks launched OrganicLoven.com, one of the largest BIPOC owned online intimacy shops. Organic Loven specializes in improving adults’ sexual health/wellness and enhancing their sex lives via their organic intimate body products, body-safe sex toy materials, sex-positive books, erotic educational seminars and adults only luxury vacations.
Ms. Sparks’ expertise has contributed to articles in Bustle, Cosmopolitan, Glamour, Men’s Health, Oprah, Shape, Women’s Health magazines and more. Prior to launching Organic Loven she developed a line of 16 head-to-toe organic body care products for elite endurance athletes, called Skin Care for Athletes Tri-Body Products. These products were featured in Muscle & Fitness Hers and the ESPN Magazines, sponsored numerous triathlons, 5ks and marathons as well as 5 Olympian athletes in both the summer and winter Olympics.
As a leading facilitator in the adult travel industry for many years, Taylor has served as an Experience Advisor for thousands of international travelers, bringing joy and happiness to all she encounters. Taylor remains passionate about bringing people to new destinations and providing opportunities for amazing open-living experiences.
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Nov 2, 2022 • 1h 7min
Ep 260 - Poly+Amor=Us (Elisa + Mike)
Elisa and Mike have been together about seven years and polyamorous for about four of them. Two years into their relationship, Elisa had an affair and that became the catalyst that led them to digging deep into their truest needs and rebuilding their relationship in an intentional way. They talk through a lot of their process of repairing and co-creating a dynamic that feels good to both of them. At the same time, in order to do this, they needed to go at their own pace, not compete with one another, and be open to growing together. This is an amazing and deep conversation.
Elisa and Mike also host the Poly+Amor=Us podcast! (Get it? "Polyamorous"... You get it.) They're on a mission similar to ours... Show people that they're not alone and provide more resources for going against the norm. Also, they interview her parents, which is amazing! Go check out and support their work!
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Oct 26, 2022 • 1h 13min
Ep 259 - Arielle
If you are looking for a beautiful journey of what it can look like when you live intentionally and seek out your authentic self... Look no further. We often use this space to give a high-level overview of the relational dynamic our guests are in... There isn't a better way to describe this for Arielle besides that she is in a relationship with living an incredible life and giving love to those around her. It's a beautiful conversation and we hope you enjoy it.
A bit more about Arielle from her website:
Arielle Brown is a teacher, facilitator, and ceremonialist specializing in energetic alignment, relational alchemy, and authentic communication skills. In her 1:1 private client work, Arielle supports men, women, and couples harmonizing their Masculine & Feminine energy flow in service to actualizing their creative potential, amplifying their impact in the world, and embodying greater levels of joy and meaningful fulfillment in their relationships, sexuality, and authentic expression of purpose and leadership.
She is founder of the Cosmic Tantra Community, a global online monthly membership for consciousness explorers on the awakening path seeking to anchor in the new paradigm of love, sexuality, and authentic human connection.
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Oct 19, 2022 • 1h 23min
Ep 258 - Taylor + Andrew
Taylor and Andrew... Wow, we love this conversation. They have been together for 13 years, married for 9, and have only been exploring ethical non-monogamy for a few months. Non-monogamy came up right around the time their son turned two and Taylor realized she had no idea who she was. She describes it as an identity crisis that lead her to becoming resentful of her husband and son. Then her and Andrew teamed up and dug in together researching and finding ways to support, repair, and connect with one another. This led them to the long and thoughtful process of being radically honest with one another and ultimately opening their marriage. It's been no easy task considering they both come from very conservative religious backgrounds, like very religious. (Andrew's father was a Southern Baptist Pastor) They have been very methodical about it all and share a beautiful journey and conversation with us.
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Oct 12, 2022 • 1h 1min
Ep 257 - Gabrielle | Round 2
Gabrielle is back! It's been just over 100 episodes since we talked to her last on episode 151... You definitely don't have to listen to that episode to get a TON out of this one. She catches you up pretty quick and then we hit the ground running. Just a reminder... Gabrielle is solo poly and has been exploring non-monogamy for a few years. She takes us on a journey of how things have changed in her relationships and life as the pandemic has been shifting. We also talk about jealousy, anxiety, depression, the intersectionality of race and the sex-positive scene in New York City, and so much more. It's a beautiful conversation and we hope you enjoy it!
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Oct 5, 2022 • 1h 3min
Ep 256 - CC + Steve | Round 2
CC and Steve are back! We first talked to them way back on episode 84! They're in their early fifties and have been together for over thirty years. They have a mismatch in libido, CC loves exhibitionism, and wouldn't you know it, Steve loves being a voyeur! They discovered this a few years ago and began exploring a hotwife dynamic together. In fact, we would say it's probably the "purest" form of hotwifing we've ever seen. At the same time, it's about way more than just the sex... We have a wonderful conversation about how they got here and what's changed over the last few years since we spoke. Enjoy!
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Sep 28, 2022 • 1h 31min
Ep 255 - Eka
Eka is from Portugal and is an AMAZING storyteller! This interview is really much better described as Eka sharing her life story with us and it is beautiful. She's in her mid-thirties and has been exploring ethical non-monogamy for over a decade. She has also just welcomed a new baby into her life! This conversation covers so many incredible topics, but the overall takeaway is to embrace life... We have no idea what's coming our way.
Embrace it. Enjoy it. Live it!
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Sep 23, 2022 • 1h 8min
FF 2.9 - Behind The Scenes with Podcast Growth Hacks
This episode is a behind-the-scenes conversation with our friend and host of the Podcast Growth Hacks podcast, Pat Cheung, about how we built our podcast and community from scratch. We share pretty much everything from our stats to our income.
Podcasting is an infinite game for us. . . We're not trying to beat anyone or take over. The more eyes we can open to the world of ethical non-monogamy and sex-positivity, the better. The more people we can help create meaningful and positive content in this space, the better. "A rising tide lifts all ships."
We hope this episode helps some of you start your own podcast and community.
Let's all grow and work together.
Let us know if you have any questions!
A bit more about Pat!
Pat is the host of Podcast Growth Hacks.
He’s also the CEO & founder of PodInbox, an audience engagement platform that lets podcasters easily receive audio messages and donations from their fans.
He’s a serial tech entrepreneur, Techstars 2016 alum, and co-founder of Silversheet (acquired in 2019).
He was born in Hong Kong, grew up in Southern California, went to UC Berkeley, and now lives in Portland Oregon.
We had the honor of meeting Pat at the World Domination Summit, and he is an outstanding human. Please go support his work.
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Sep 21, 2022 • 60min
Ep 254 - Jace
Jace has been out as a trans man for about a decade and exploring polyamory since right after he graduated high school roughly seven years ago. He's currently in a long-term nesting relationship with his two husbands and exploring a bit of dating on occasion as well. He sort of stumbled into polyamory without a framework and has been learning it as he goes. We have a wonderful conversation about his journey not only in polyamory, but in coming out as trans. Like many of us, personal growth and undoing codependencies has been a major part of the path for him.
Jace also earned his Master's in Mental Health Counseling and works with Anna Baxter (Ep 231) at Love Positive Counseling in Georgia. His passion is working with LGBTQ+ individuals, as well as those within the polyamorous and kink communities.
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