Ben Wehrman Podcast

The second half of my interview with Cameron Thomason - and of course - a bazillion extra minutes of bonus content that I cannot help myself but add to the episode for extra value 😘 I wish I could say “enjoy the episode”, but I’m not going to lie, this one gets DARK. I do hate to end the series on such a depressing note, but alas, we indeed find ourselves in a war of good and evil right now, and the truth must be laid bare, no matter how brutal. . . . MENTIONED / LEARN MORE 📚👇 Fluoride is NOT good for your teeth - Kevin Stock on BWP: https://youtu.be/P4hzpm1oT78 Fluoride is NOT good for your teeth - Dr. Bit Meow on BWP: https://youtu.be/49sm0kXA6mA The Dimming - Full Documentary (GeoengineeringWatch.org): https://youtu.be/rf78rEAJvhY IN-SHADOW - A Modern Odyssey - Outro video: https://youtu.be/j800SVeiS5I My Full FLAT EARTH Playlist on Rumble: https://rumble.com/playlists/KoyNB8GPN58?e9s=src_v1_upp_pl The Lost History of Flat Earth (Ewaranon): https://rumble.com/v477fo6-the-lost-history-of-flat-earth-part-full-1-7.html Flat Out Truth 👇 Rumble: https://rumble.com/c/flattouttruth X: https://x.com/TheFlatEartherr Vibes Of Cosmos 👇 YT channel: https://www.youtube.com/@VIBESOFCOSMOS Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/vibes.of.cosmos.authentic/ Santos Bonacci 👇 YT channel: https://www.youtube.com/@SyncretismTheMagnumOpus Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/santos.bonacci/ . . . CAMERON’S LINKS 🔗 → Nostr: npub1v60txdzz4vh96f98wzxkh58u6ukm700s0cc83ct2n8m2k3ys4xwq7wqqqv → Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/holistichealthnut33/ → TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@swoledaddycam → YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@swoledaddycam . . . BEN’S LINKS 🔗 → Twitter/X: https://x.com/benwehrman → Instagram: https://instagram.com/where_man → Nostr: https://primal.net/ben → YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@benwehrman/ → Website: https://www.benwehrman.com/ . . SUPPORT THE BEN WEHRMAN PODCAST ❤️ → Share the show with friends, family, and social media → Zap me on Nostr. (Learn more about Nostr here) → Learn more about Value-4-Value, and how it’s helping independent creators → Direct Lightning Tips: benwehrman@getalby.com . . BITCOIN RECOMMENDATIONS (AFFILIATE LINKS) 👍 → Buy Bitcoin AND Stack Extra Sats on Every Purchase with the Fold Debit Card → Secure Your BTC on the BitBox02 Hardware Wallet PODCAST DISCLAIMER

Well folks, we were originally going to make this a trilogy…then we expanded it to 4 parts, and now we’re expanding it AGAIN to 5 parts 🤣 THERE’S JUST TOO MUCH DANG INTERESTING STUFF I WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU ALL. DEAL WITH IT ❤️ Enjoy the first half of this very wide-ranging interview with Cameron Thomason, the legend who’s played a huge part in flat-pilling me over the course of the last year. As I explain in the intro, this was actually the first recording I did in the series (before Scott Dedels and Flat Earth Dave). I decided to order it in this way as Cameron and I get into some VERY DEEP topics I felt would be too much to have early on in the series. So, be aware that I ask a few beginner questions in this episode that we’ve already covered with Scott and Dave. All good though - it never hurts to review, especially with ideas that are this paradigm-shifting! . . . MENTIONED / LEARN MORE 📚👇 The Tartaria/Old World/Free Energy rabbit hole 👇 w/ Michael Dunworth: https://youtu.be/5X8tMBDTKbw w/ Scott Dedels Round 1: https://youtu.be/UsTRSUN_xwc w/ Lucius Aurelian: https://youtu.be/7FwC-qwgNzA My Full FLAT EARTH Playlist on Rumble: https://rumble.com/playlists/KoyNB8GPN58?e9s=src_v1_upp_pl My Full FLAT EARTH Playlist on YouTube: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuGtfhmsMa-IMkYIJ9Pq4ciohIf7oAs_M The Lost History of Flat Earth (Ewaranon): https://rumble.com/v477fo6-the-lost-history-of-flat-earth-part-full-1-7.html Red Bull Space Jump video: https://youtu.be/FHtvDA0W34I Flat Out Truth 👇 Rumble: https://rumble.com/c/flattouttruth X: https://x.com/TheFlatEartherr Vibes Of Cosmos 👇 YT channel: https://www.youtube.com/@VIBESOFCOSMOS Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/vibes.of.cosmos.authentic/ Santos Bonacci 👇 YT channel: https://www.youtube.com/@SyncretismTheMagnumOpus Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/santos.bonacci/ The Secrets of The North Pole & Flat Earth Cosmology (Flat Out Truth): https://rumble.com/v5brd4x-the-secrets-of-the-north-pole-and-flat-earth-cosmology.html The "Sky Ice" of Antarctica, the ice wall and the firmament of our flat Earth (Flat Out Truth): https://rumble.com/v4m5duh-the-sky-ice-of-antarctica-the-ice-wall-and-the-firmament..html . . . CAMERON’S LINKS 🔗 → Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/holistichealthnut33/ → TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@swoledaddycam → YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@swoledaddycam . . . BEN’S LINKS 🔗 → Twitter/X: https://x.com/benwehrman → Instagram: https://instagram.com/where_man → Nostr: https://primal.net/ben → YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@benwehrman/ → Website: https://www.benwehrman.com/ . . SUPPORT THE BEN WEHRMAN PODCAST ❤️ → Share the show with friends, family, and social media → Zap me on Nostr. (Learn more about Nostr here) → Learn more about Value-4-Value, and how it’s helping independent creators → Direct Lightning Tips: benwehrman@getalby.com . . BITCOIN RECOMMENDATIONS (AFFILIATE LINKS) 👍 → Buy Bitcoin AND Stack Extra Sats on Every Purchase with the Fold Debit Card → Secure Your BTC on the BitBox02 Hardware Wallet PODCAST DISCLAIMER

Here is the SECOND HALF of my conversation with the one and only FLAT EARTH DAVE! 🔥 . . FLAT EARTH DAVE’S LINKS 🔗 → Twitter/X: https://x.com/FlatEarthDaveX → YouTube: / @flatearthdavidweiss → Instagram: / flatearthdavecom → Website: https://flatearthdave.com/ → Download Dave's App, "Flat Earth Sun & Moon Clock": https://flatearthdave.com/download/ . . BEN’S LINKS 🔗 → Twitter/X: https://x.com/benwehrman → Instagram: / where_man → Nostr: https://primal.net/ben | npub1qqvt0m3nlvjnssmrn33w9yh7cuq2dx5nkz8wxax9hk5hrjdnj4jqz8cn3w → Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2mSCE16… → Website: https://www.benwehrman.com/ → Stacker News: https://stacker.news/benwehrman/r/ben… . . SUPPORT THE BEN WEHRMAN PODCAST ❤️ → Share with friends, family, and social media 🫂 → Zap me on Nostr: https://primal.net/ben. (Learn more about Nostr here: https://www.benwehrman.com/nostr-guide/) → Learn more about Value-4-Value, and how it’s helping independent creators here: https://whybitcoinonly.com/#V4V → Direct Lightning Tips: benwehrman@getalby.com ⚡️ . . BITCOIN RECOMMENDATIONS (AFFILIATE LINKS) 👍 → Buy Bitcoin AND Stack Extra Sats on Every Purchase with the Fold Debit Card: https://use.foldapp.com/r/BEN → Secure Your BTC on the BitBox02 Hardware Wallet: https://shiftcrypto.ch/bitbox02/bitco… PODCAST DISCLAIMER: https://www.benwehrman.com/legal/ . . FlatEarth #Conspiracy

“IIIIIIIIT’S TIIIIIIIIIME!” - Bruce Buffer Ladies & gentlemen, I am SO stoked to finally bring you the episode that’s been in the works for several months: INTRODUCTION TO FLAT EARTH! After half a year of being clowned nonstop on social media for opening the door to the most classic “crazy conspiracy theory” of all time, I’ve finally built my best attempt at presenting this concept to y’all in an all-encompassing format, to see if we can’t enlighten some globetards up in here! 🤣 As explained in the intro, I’ve expanded what was originally going to be a trilogy into a 4-PART series, since I just keep finding way too much incredible bonus content to include in these episodes for you guys to chew on. So here it is: The FIRST HALF of my conversation with the one and only FLAT EARTH DAVE! 🔥 , , , MENTIONED / LEARN MORE 📚👇 PART 1 of the "Where The F*ck Are We!?" series: https://rumble.com/v6wuo24-nasa-lied-to-us-about-everything-bwp139.html https://youtu.be/1bj7QHby69 https://fountain.fm/episode/G3PlJ76NeH6kaDBFVP46 My Moon Temperature Experiment: https://benwehrman.com/moon-temp/ Earth Curvature Calculator: https://earthcurvature.com/ BONUS VIDEO CONTENT SOURCES 📚👇 https://odysee.com/@EricDubay:c/GravityDoesNotExist:6 https://youtu.be/gwNK9QRDhWU https://youtu.be/H4ZfkUei9H8 https://youtu.be/gXwyh60JN7E https://youtu.be/Eic4xivGP7E https://youtu.be/lCy48ox8Wtk https://youtu.be/-EY2ZSJc2Nc https://youtu.be/0jtZPOmCjC8 https://youtu.be/g4WLrlTx2qA https://youtu.be/gZ5wo_NKjtQ https://youtu.be/yeo\_-1h6qUc https://youtu.be/3uITCM8YcUI https://youtu.be/X2eXZ7MChQA https://youtu.be/A2run6RLqy0 https://youtu.be/7bgO_MelmGw https://youtu.be/RNJOYEOIHTE https://youtu.be/Sgm2QV52MZc , , , FLAT EARTH DAVE’S LINKS 🔗 → Twitter/X: https://x.com/FlatEarthDaveX → YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@FlatEarthDavidWeiss → Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/flatearthdavecom/ → Website: https://flatearthdave.com/ → Download Dave's App, "Flat Earth Sun & Moon Clock": https://flatearthdave.com/download/ , , BEN’S LINKS 🔗 → Twitter/X: https://x.com/benwehrman → Instagram: https://instagram.com/where_man → Nostr: https://primal.net/ben → YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@benwehrman/ → Website: https://www.benwehrman.com/ . . SUPPORT THE BEN WEHRMAN PODCAST ❤️ → Share the show with friends, family, and social media → Zap me on Nostr. (Learn more about Nostr here) → Learn more about Value-4-Value, and how it’s helping independent creators → Direct Lightning Tips: benwehrman@getalby.com . . BITCOIN RECOMMENDATIONS (AFFILIATE LINKS) 👍 → Buy Bitcoin AND Stack Extra Sats on Every Purchase with the Fold Debit Card → Secure Your BTC on the BitBox02 Hardware Wallet . . PODCAST DISCLAIMER

⚠️ VIDEO EPISODE ⚠️ If you're on an audio-only platform, I highly recommend pulling up one of the video versions below - we cover a ton of visual content in this episode 👇 Fountain (they just recently added video support!): https://fountain.fm/episode/G3PlJ76NeH6kaDBFVP46 YouTube: https://youtu.be/1bj7QHby69s Rumble: https://rumble.com/v6wuo24-nasa-lied-to-us-about-everything-bwp139.html X: https://x.com/benwehrman/status/1950238088518664417 . Fasten your seatbelt, then buy a few more and fasten those too…Welcome to PART 1 of the 3-Part "WHERE THE F*CK ARE WE!?" Trilogy 🔥 . TIMESTAMPS 🕑 10:30 The Moon Landing 12:16 "We lost the technology" 14:54 Untouched moon dust under lander thrusters 16:57 The Lunar Lander 22:37 Astronauts being ashamed 23:29 "Could you see the stars" inconsistency 24:32 Buzz Aldrin admitting multiple times they never went 25:56 The Challenger 38:22 The ascent stage 🎊 40:04 Combustion in an empty vacuum? 42:17 Sound in an empty vacuum? 43:34 Earthrise photo scaling issue 45:36 Wire fails compilation 48:47 Astronauts refusing to swear on Bible 53:57 Stanley Kubrick involvement 58:33 Science vs. Religion/intelligent design 01:02:29 The rocket launch arc / Bermuda triangle connection 1:19:37 Are the Sun and Moon the same size? 1:21:41 Problems with the "moonlight is reflected sunlight" narrative 1:23:42 Ben's moon temperature experiment 1:28:30 Did NASA force Nikon to discontinue the P1000? 1:34:22 The Sun: NASA vs. reality 1:35:31 Moon Distance 1:41:51 Blood Moon 1:45:47 Seeing stars through the moon?? 1:47:58 The Plasma Moon Theory 1:50:53 The Stars: NASA vs. reality 1:55:54 100% of NASA space photos are CGI/photoshopped 2:01:09 Planet Earth image scaling inconsistency 2:03:00 Earth is a Clock / Prague Astronomical Clock 2:07:19 Geoengineering / chemtrails 2:11:58 How we're being disconnected from nature 2:15:00 Porn 2:25:15 Polarity / Yin/Yang 2:39:05 Full "NASA LIES" documentary by ODD TV . . MENTIONED / LEARN MORE 📚👇 Previous episode with Scott Dedels, on TARTARIA: https://youtu.be/UsTRSUN_xwc All included bonus video content sources: https://rumble.com/v4fhfix-the-best-moon-landing-documentary-proving-it-was-a-hoax.html https://rumble.com/v20h2rq-the-moon-landing-hoax-by-taboo-conspiracy.html https://rumble.com/v4fhfix-the-best-moon-landing-documentary-proving-it-was-a-hoax.html https://rumble.com/v6q37wo-buzz-aldrin-admitting-to-a-7-year-old-child-they-never-went-to-the-moon.html https://rumble.com/v2dbfr4-did-astronaut-buzz-aldrin-tell-conan-obrien-that-the-moon-landing-was-stage.html https://rumble.com/v50ujyn-challenger-disaster-lie-judith-resnik-voice-match.html https://rumble.com/v6ehyq4-meet-challenger-astronaut-judith-resniks-doppelgnger.html https://rumble.com/v6qraze-judith-resnik-challenger-astronaut-alive.html https://rumble.com/v4tmxo6-astronauts-gone-wild-full-documentary-2004.html https://rumble.com/v6qwbn4-where-do-rockets-really-go-.html https://youtu.be/7qh5F4qpAgY https://rumble.com/v1dgsxv-is-the-moon-plasma.html . . SUPPORT THE BEN WEHRMAN PODCAST ❤️ → Share the show with friends, family, and social media → Zap me on Nostr. (Learn more about Nostr here) → Learn more about Value-4-Value, and how it’s helping independent creators → Direct Lightning Tips: benwehrman@getalby.com . . BITCOIN RECOMMENDATIONS (AFFILIATE LINKS) 👍 → Buy Bitcoin AND Stack Extra Sats on Every Purchase with the Fold Debit Card → Secure Your BTC on the BitBox02 Hardware Wallet

I had the great honor and privilege to speak at the Bansko Nomad Fest in Bansko, Bulgaria this year! 🇧🇬🟠 Enjoy this deep-dive "Bitcoin 101" walkthrough, tag-teamed with my good friend and Satlantis Founder/CEO Aleks Svetski. At 41:00 minutes, we go into a demonstration portion, where we have people download some Bitcoin wallet apps. I trimmed it out to make the listening experience a bit smoother, but I encourage everyone to follow the demonstration instructions we set up with: download both Satlantis and Primal (links to both below), and see how they both help you navigate the world while operating on a personal Bitcoin Standard (Q&A section begins at 42:30) Download Satlantis - the ultimate Nostr client for travelers/digital nomads: https://linktr.ee/satlantis Download Primal (Nostr Client & Bitcoin Lightning Wallet): https://primal.net/downloads Download Wallet of Satoshi (Bitcoin Lightning Wallet): https://www.walletofsatoshi.com/ , , MENTIONED / LEARN MORE 📚👇 The Bitcoin Standard (Saifedean Ammous) Shelling Out (Nick Szabo) Why Bitcoin is Gold 2.0 (Ben Wehrman) Bitcoin vs. Gold Bitcoin vs. Crypto Inflation vs. Deflation Why Bitcoin is GOOD for the environment Gold price in Weimar Germany (during hyperinflation) chart , , ALEKS’S LINKS 🔗 → Nostr: https://www.satlantis.io/Svetski → Twitter/X: https://x.com/SvetskiWrites → Book, "The Bushido Of Bitcoin": https://amzn.to/4kM0YMN SATLANTIS’S LINKS 🔗 → Nostr: https://www.satlantis.io/Satlantis → Twitter/X: https://x.com/joinsatlantis → LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/satlantis.io/ → Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/joinsatlantis/ → Website: https://www.satlantis.io/ . . BEN’S LINKS 🔗 → Twitter/X: https://x.com/benwehrman → Instagram: https://instagram.com/where_man → Nostr: https://primal.net/ben → YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@benwehrman/ → Website: https://www.benwehrman.com/ . . SUPPORT THE BEN WEHRMAN PODCAST ❤️ → Share the show with friends, family, and social media → Zap me on Nostr. (Learn more about Nostr here) → Learn more about Value-4-Value, and how it’s helping independent creators → Direct Lightning Tips: benwehrman@getalby.com . . BITCOIN RECOMMENDATIONS (AFFILIATE LINKS) 👍 → Buy Bitcoin AND Stack Extra Sats on Every Purchase with the Fold Debit Card → Secure Your BTC on the BitBox02 Hardware Wallet PODCAST DISCLAIMER

Immediately following my panel with Ian Carroll and Peruvian Bull at The BTC Las Vegas Conference (previous episode, #136), I power-walked straight to The Nostr Lounge down the hall to support my fellow free-speech-maximalists and onboard some newbies! Little did I know that the Nostr legend Reverend Hodl would be there waiting for me, to pull me aside for an interview on the official Nostr Lounge Live Stream to discuss freedom tech, escaping centralized algorithms, and SPEAKING YOUR TRUTH FEARLESSLY. Enjoy the conversation! . . REVEREND HODL’S LINKS 🔗 → Nostr: npub1fdhjvx4kwxrw8gtxzqef8e4573ftxlx5g25ynln4096js979qvlqnlglhr → Twitter/X: https://x.com/ReverendHodl . . BEN’S LINKS 🔗 → Twitter/X: https://x.com/benwehrman → Instagram: https://instagram.com/where_man → Nostr: https://primal.net/ben → YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@benwehrman/ → Website: https://www.benwehrman.com/ . . SUPPORT THE BEN WEHRMAN PODCAST ❤️ → Share the show with friends, family, and social media → Zap me on Nostr. (Learn more about Nostr here) → Learn more about Value-4-Value, and how it’s helping independent creators → Direct Lightning Tips: benwehrman@getalby.com . . BITCOIN RECOMMENDATIONS (AFFILIATE LINKS) 👍 → Buy Bitcoin AND Stack Extra Sats on Every Purchase with the Fold Debit Card → Secure Your BTC on the BitBox02 Hardware Wallet PODCAST DISCLAIMER

For today's episode, we're taking it all the way to Las Vegas, where I had the great pleasure of being invited to speak at The Bitcoin Conference this year (over 30,000 attendance 🤯) with my good friends Ian Carroll and Roberto Rios (formerly known as Peruvian Bull)! We take a walk down memory lane to January 2021, where we all got our start doing this crazy internet content thing, as the Gamestop stock fiasco took the world by storm. We discuss: - WTF ACTUALLY happened in January 2021? - Has the GME squeeze squoze? - How will Bitcoin flip the tables of power for GameStop, and other corporations seeking to protect themselves from the corruption of the fiat stock market? All of that and more is covered in today's live-recorded episode! Huge thanks to the conference team for having us. As this was my first time presenting in front of a large audience it was very new for me, and I already have critique for myself I know I'll be changing next time…but thankfully I didn't have to moderate much as these two gentlemen know how to take the reins and run with it! 🤣 ENJOY. . . FOLLOW IAN CARROLL 🔗 → Nostr: https://primal.net/IanCarroll → Twitter/X: https://x.com/IanCarrollShow → YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Iancarrollshow → Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cancel.ian.carroll/ FOLLOW ROBERTO RIOS 🔗 → Nostr: https://primal.net/peruvianbull → Twitter/X: https://x.com/peruvian_bull → YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@peruvian_bull → Book, “The Dollar Endgame”: https://amzn.to/4dWnksY . . BEN’S LINKS 🔗 → Twitter/X: https://x.com/benwehrman → Instagram: https://instagram.com/where_man → Nostr: https://primal.net/ben → YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@benwehrman/ → Website: https://www.benwehrman.com/ . . SUPPORT THE BEN WEHRMAN PODCAST ❤️ → Share the show with friends, family, and social media → Zap me on Nostr. (Learn more about Nostr here) → Learn more about Value-4-Value, and how it’s helping independent creators → Direct Lightning Tips: benwehrman@getalby.com . . BITCOIN RECOMMENDATIONS (AFFILIATE LINKS) 👍 → Buy Bitcoin AND Stack Extra Sats on Every Purchase with the Fold Debit Card → Secure Your BTC on the BitBox02 Hardware Wallet PODCAST DISCLAIMER

Anthony Smith is the COO of EMF Safe, a company dedicated to providing tools that will help you lower EMF exposure in your bedroom, your house, and your life. In this discussion, we talk about WHY you should care about EMF exposure, and the best way to lower it in your daily routine. Enjoy! ANTHONY'S WEBSITE - USE CODE BEN10 FOR 10% OFF ALL PRODUCTS 👇 https://liveemfsafe.com/ . . BEN’S LINKS 🔗 → Twitter/X: https://x.com/benwehrman → Instagram: https://instagram.com/where_man → Nostr: https://primal.net/ben → YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@benwehrman/ → Website: https://www.benwehrman.com/ . . SUPPORT THE BEN WEHRMAN PODCAST ❤️ → Share the show with friends, family, and social media → Zap me on Nostr. (Learn more about Nostr here) → Learn more about Value-4-Value, and how it’s helping independent creators → Direct Lightning Tips: benwehrman@getalby.com . . BITCOIN RECOMMENDATIONS (AFFILIATE LINKS) 👍 → Buy Bitcoin AND Stack Extra Sats on Every Purchase with the Fold Debit Card → Secure Your BTC on the BitBox02 Hardware Wallet PODCAST DISCLAIMER

Earlier this year, I was invited onto the EXCELLENT Basecamp For Men podcast, hosted by fellow truth-seeker and Seattleite Tony Rezac. We had a great conversation covering Bitcoin, Carnivore, Geoengineering, and the importance of maintaining a resilient mind while diving through the seemingly infinite barrage of dark rabbit holes that lay in front of us as we embark on this truth-seeking mission. Enjoy the conversation, and go show Tony some love on NOSTR so we can get him some more momentum on there! (npub below) . . TONY’S LINKS 🔗 → Nostr: npub1fk4245q8dsn0hlfz5rmfu48wk6amathmck2rvwst4pcrtzkxt2jsdp8ysq → Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/basecampformen → Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tonyrezac → Website: https://basecamp-podcast.com/ . . BEN’S LINKS 🔗 → Twitter/X: https://x.com/benwehrman → Instagram: https://instagram.com/where_man → Nostr: https://primal.net/ben → YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@benwehrman/ → Website: https://www.benwehrman.com/ . . SUPPORT THE BEN WEHRMAN PODCAST ❤️ → Share the show with friends, family, and social media → Zap me on Nostr. (Learn more about Nostr here) → Learn more about Value-4-Value, and how it’s helping independent creators → Direct Lightning Tips: benwehrman@getalby.com . . BITCOIN RECOMMENDATIONS (AFFILIATE LINKS) 👍 → Buy Bitcoin AND Stack Extra Sats on Every Purchase with the Fold Debit Card → Secure Your BTC on the BitBox02 Hardware Wallet PODCAST DISCLAIMER