

Journey to an ESOP & Beyond
Phillip Hayes and Jason Miller
ESOPs are gaining traction. In the "Journey to an ESOP & Beyond” podcast, Phillip Hayes and Jason Miller explain the process of the ESOP transaction and address ESOPs from a business owner's perspective. They illuminate the simplicity of ESOPs and debunk common misconceptions that ESOPs are immensely costly and complicated.
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Mar 4, 2024 • 40min
EP8 - ESOP Experience - Interview With Dale Hobbs of Hobbs Madison 100% ESOP
Dale Hobbs, founder of Hobbs Madison consulting firm, shares his journey to an ESOP. They discuss challenges, benefits, and the importance of choosing the right partner. Navigating employee updates and maintaining company culture post-transition are highlighted. They explore wealth transfer to employees and the positive cultural shift resulting from ESOP adoption.

Feb 23, 2024 • 46min
EP7 - Don’t Worry Be Happy - The Holistic ESOP Plan
On this episode I have been re-inspired by this great song to focus on why holistic planning your ESOP should minimize your worry of selling your stock during your journey to an ESOP. As we go through the planning process, there simply are measures taken to balance all of the elements of your ESOP plan to provide a win-win-win…yes a triple win - one for the shareholder - one for the company and one for the employees…and even the key managers so that could be four wins. Check out why this approach will help you to do what Bobby Mcferrin says “Don’t Worry - Be Happy!!!”

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Feb 17, 2024 • 48min
EP6 - Why EOS Goes Well With ESOPs… EOS Worldwide CEO - Mark O’Donnell
Mark O'Donnell, CEO of EOS Worldwide, discusses the synergy between EOS and ESOPs, emphasizing teamwork, accountability, and maximizing company valuation. The podcast explores succession planning, leadership fit, and empowering employees through ownership stakes. Learn how implementing EOS can enhance business performance and build intentional cultures to address talent shortages.

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Feb 10, 2024 • 41min
EP5 - Mutiny on the Bounty - Communicating Positively With Key Employees Along Your Journey to An ESOP.
Exploring the importance of proactive communication with key employees during the ESOP process, emphasizing the significance of timely updates and involvement in decision-making. Discussing the impact of company culture on ESOP implementation and the challenges of succession planning. Highlighting the importance of clear communication post-deal closure to dispel misconceptions and maintain a culture of dialogue.

Feb 3, 2024 • 40min
EP4 - EOX - Interview with Steve Storkan - ESOP Education And EOX Mission
In this episode - I interview Steve Storkan and their approach at EOX, an organization founded out of the NCEO to develop state employee ownership educational resources to support companies considering ESOP as an option. Their approach is in response to research that shows - states with education on ESOPs have a lot more ESOP companies. Steve has an interesting ESOP background and leading the initiative to have more state centers throughout the U.S.

Jan 26, 2024 • 33min
EP3 - Jumanji - Reality of Communicating ESOP to Employees
In this episode, we jump right into the expanded version of Season 5 by dealing some factors related to communicating the ESOP to your employees. Jumanji is an ideal movie to explain that there is something that changes after an ESOP that can change the outlook on how employees see themselves - who they are and who they want to be - we want them to move from employees to employee owners on this journey to an ESOP & beyond!

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Jan 17, 2024 • 47min
EP2 - ESOP Committees - Interview with employees of ESOP company Smooth Fusion
Employees from ESOP company Smooth Fusion in Texas discuss their roles in the newly formed ESOP committee. They talk about ESOP communication strategies, roles within the company, and initiatives aligned with company culture. The podcast delves into employee engagement, wealth building beyond ESOPs, and the importance of continuous education on ESOPs and financial literacy.

Jan 11, 2024 • 37min
EP1 - Journey to an ESOP & Beyond - Special Message
This episode officially kicks off the Season 5 and the expansion of the podcast as a direct resource for Employee Stock Ownership Plans. The Journey to an ESOP just became better because we are incorporating “& Beyond” to discuss not only pre-esop topics but go beyond that and deal with post-esop topics and issues that come up. This episode provides a high-level understanding of what is to come and what we have dealt with in the last four seasons. The value of listening will be to grasp some overall ESOP concepts that may be helpful for you to think about whether you are exploring your own journey to an ESOP or thinking about existing ESOP issues that are beyond the ESOP closing.

Dec 21, 2023 • 41min
EP31 - Christmas Carol - What Does The Ghost of Past, Present, and What is Yet to Come To Consider An ESOP For 2024
This episode takes advantage of the opportunity that we have during Christmas to stop and celebrate the reasons why folks decide to go towards ESOP… In this episode, we cover the ghost of Christmas past and thinking about the people that have helped your business get to where you are and how an ESOP can be the perfect way to reward them. The Ghost of Christmas Present reminds us of what is happening right now that includes the current tax benefits of an ESOP and other benefits to reduce the workload and spend more time with the family. The Ghost of Christmas yet to come makes us think of the future legacy of the business and how much better it will en to be an ESOP company. MERRY CHRISTMAS - The ESOP Guy!

Dec 21, 2023 • 39min
EP30 - Shawshank - Financial and Deal Structure - Completing The ESOP Site Visit Presentation
In this episode we finish the series we started to help prepare folks for the ESOP site visit. The focus of the episode is to understand in covering first the financial highlights and how they connect to points you will want to make with the trustee and their valuation firm. In addition to the financials - the remaining part of the presentation will be to cover the ESOP deal structure and anything specific to the transaction.


