The Kevin Rooke Show

Chase Perkins is the founder of Impervious, a Lightning-powered, P2P internet browser that recently launched their alpha version. In our conversation we discussed censorship and privacy on the internet today, we explored how Impervious works, the importance of peer-to-peer communication, decentralized identifiers, and the Lightning Network. → Impervious: https://www.impervious.ai/ Sponsors → Voltage: https://voltage.cloud?utm_source=kevinrooke&utm_medium=Youtube&utm_campaign=1mo → Stakwork: https://stakwork.com/ This show is a Lightning podcast. That means instead of asking for likes or shares, I ask for sats. The best way to show your support is to download Fountain from the App Store, load your wallet with some sats, and send them over the Lightning Network to kerooke@fountain.fm. → Fountain: https://www.fountain.fm/ → More Episodes: https://play.fountain.fm/show/P6XXuSPg6f2rj4ECB0fT → Lightning Address: ⚡kerooke@fountain.fm Links → Stack Sats: https://www.stacksats.how/ → Twitter: https://twitter.com/kerooke → Books: https://www.kevinrooke.com/book-recommendations → Blog: https://www.kevinrooke.com/blog Timestamps 00:00 - Intro 02:23 - Chase Perkins Intro 10:21 - Where Would The World Be Without P2P Technology? 15:26 - How Does the Impervious Browser Work? 20:39 - Surprises Building Impervious 26:52 - Impervious Transitioning from an API to a Browser 34:14 - The Importance of Having Multiple Decentralized Identities 39:58 - Why Aren’t All Apps P2P? 50:16 - Emerging P2P App Ideas 1:05:56 - Why Is Lightning Necessary for Impervious? 1:11:45 - The Lightning Round

John Light is a Bitcoin researcher who recently published a paper exploring how Validity Rollups might work on Bitcoin. In our conversation, we first explored what zero-knowledge proofs and rollups are, we discussed the different ways in which rollups could be implemented, the risks and rewards to implementing rollups on Bitcoin, and the ways in which rollups and the Lightning Network could be complementary to each other. → Bitcoin Rollups: https://bitcoinrollups.org/ → Unexpected Tradeoff from Bitcoin Soft Forks: https://bitcoinops.org/en/newsletters/2022/07/13/#x-only-workaround Sponsors → Voltage: https://voltage.cloud?utm_source=kevinrooke&utm_medium=Youtube&utm_campaign=1mo → Stakwork: https://stakwork.com/ This show is a Lightning podcast. That means instead of asking for likes or shares, I ask for sats. The best way to show your support is to download Fountain from the App Store, load your wallet with some sats, and send them over the Lightning Network to kerooke@fountain.fm. → Fountain: https://www.fountain.fm/ → More Episodes: https://play.fountain.fm/show/P6XXuSPg6f2rj4ECB0fT → Lightning Address: ⚡kerooke@fountain.fm Links → Stack Sats: https://www.stacksats.how/ → Twitter: https://twitter.com/kerooke → Books: https://www.kevinrooke.com/book-recommendations → Blog: https://www.kevinrooke.com/blog Timestamps 00:00 - Intro 02:26 - John Light Intro 10:31 - What are ZK-Proofs & Rollups? 18:23 - How Might Rollups Help Bitcoin Scalability 27:57 - Privacy Implications of Rollups on Bitcoin 34:25 - Rollup Security 39:44 - How Might Rollups Be Implemented on Bitcoin? 44:14 - The Case Against Rollups on Bitcoin 52:26 - Unintended Consequences of Bitcoin Soft Forks 1:00:45 - Validity Rollups vs. Lightning Network 1:11:06 - The Lightning Round

Johns Beharry is a Bitcoin designer building a platform for Lightning builders called Bolt.Fun. In our conversation, we explored the importance of design in Bitcoin, the state of the Bitcoin builder ecosystem, and the Legends of Lightning tournament being hosted by Bolt.Fun to get more builders working on Lightning to accelerate global Bitcoin adoption. → Bolt.Fun: https://makers.bolt.fun → Legends of Lightning: https://makers.bolt.fun/tournaments/1/overview Sponsors → Voltage: https://voltage.cloud?utm_source=kevinrooke&utm_medium=Youtube&utm_campaign=1mo → Stakwork: https://stakwork.com/ This show is a Lightning podcast. That means instead of asking for likes or shares, I ask for sats. The best way to show your support is to download Fountain from the App Store, load your wallet with some sats, and send them over the Lightning Network to kerooke@fountain.fm. → Fountain: https://www.fountain.fm/ → More Episodes: https://play.fountain.fm/show/P6XXuSPg6f2rj4ECB0fT → Lightning Address: ⚡kerooke@fountain.fm Links → Stack Sats: https://www.stacksats.how/ → Twitter: https://twitter.com/kerooke → Books: https://www.kevinrooke.com/book-recommendations → Blog: https://www.kevinrooke.com/blog Timestamps 00:00 - Intro 02:14 - Johns Beharry Intro 11:58 - The Importance of Design in Bitcoin 15:18 - The Bitcoin Design Guide 30:42 - Design Priorities in the Bitcoin Ecosystem 34:41 - What is Bolt.Fun? 47:17 - Builders in the Legends of Lightning Tournament 52:29 - The Health of the Bitcoin Builder Community 1:03:49 - Bitcoin Open Source Grants 1:16:44 - The Lightning Round

James Andrew is the CEO & Technical Director of Global Liquidity, the company building a product called Lightning Bridge to connect apps like Cash App and Strike with crypto over the Lightning Network. In our discussion, James explained exactly how Lightning Bridge works, why the Lightning Network is the perfect payment rail for currency swaps and transfers, and we discussed Web3, Taro, and more. → Lightning Bridge: https://www.lightningbridge.com/ Sponsors → Voltage: https://voltage.cloud?utm_source=kevinrooke&utm_medium=Youtube&utm_campaign=1mo → Stakwork: https://stakwork.com/ This show is a Lightning podcast. That means instead of asking for likes or shares, I ask for sats. The best way to show your support is to download Fountain from the App Store, load your wallet with some sats, and send them over the Lightning Network to kerooke@fountain.fm. → Fountain: https://www.fountain.fm/ → More Episodes: https://play.fountain.fm/show/P6XXuSPg6f2rj4ECB0fT → Lightning Address: ⚡kerooke@fountain.fm Links → Stack Sats: https://www.stacksats.how/ → Twitter: https://twitter.com/kerooke → Books: https://www.kevinrooke.com/book-recommendations → Blog: https://www.kevinrooke.com/blog Timestamps 00:00 - Intro 02:19 - James Andrew Intro 06:24 - How Lightning Bridge Works 11:02 - Lightning Bridge vs. Strike 15:21 - The Different Types of Lightning Node Operators 23:38 - Why Do Institutions Care About Lightning? 29:22 - Will Wrapped Assets on Taro Disrupt Lightning Bridge? 37:24 - Is The Lightning Network Necessary for Digital Payments? 40:48 - Lightning Bridge Competitors 54:08 - James Andrew on Taro 1:00:50 - How Will The Lightning Network Change The World? 1:06:52 - The Lightning Round

Vijay Boyapati is the author of The Bullish Case for Bitcoin, and one of the brightest Bitcoiners around. In our discussion, Vijay explained his thesis on the evolution of money, we explored where Bitcoin is in this four-phase evolution, and specifically covered the role of the Lightning Network and Bitcoin as a medium of exchange. → The Bullish Case for Bitcoin: https://www.bullishcaseforbitcoin.com/ Sponsors → Voltage: https://voltage.cloud?utm_source=kevinrooke&utm_medium=Youtube&utm_campaign=1mo → Stakwork: https://stakwork.com/ This show is a Lightning podcast. That means instead of asking for likes or shares, I ask for sats. The best way to show your support is to download Fountain from the App Store, load your wallet with some sats, and send them over the Lightning Network to kerooke@fountain.fm. → Fountain: https://www.fountain.fm/ → More Episodes: https://play.fountain.fm/show/P6XXuSPg6f2rj4ECB0fT → Lightning Address: ⚡kerooke@fountain.fm Links → Stack Sats: https://www.stacksats.how/ → Twitter: https://twitter.com/kerooke → Books: https://www.kevinrooke.com/book-recommendations → Blog: https://www.kevinrooke.com/blog Timestamps 00:00 - Intro 02:24 - Vijay Boyapati Intro 08:00 - The Evolution of Money 26:08 - How Long Will Bitcoin’s Evolution Take? 32:53 - Bitcoin and the Gartner Hype Cycle 36:53 - Bitcoin as a Medium of Exchange 46:01 - Earning Bitcoin on the Lightning Network 49:37 - Interesting Lightning Network Use Cases 55:08 - The Lightning Round

Ry Sterling is the VP of North America at IBEX Mercado. There are two parts to the IBEX business, it is a tool enabling merchants to accept Bitcoin payments, and an infrastructure platform for enabling entirely new Lightning use cases. In our discussion, Ry explained the vision for IBEX Mercado, we explored a bunch of emerging Lightning use cases, and we discussed the adoption of Bitcoin in El Salvador. → IBEX Mercado: https://www.ibexmercado.com/ Sponsors → Voltage: https://voltage.cloud?utm_source=kevinrooke&utm_medium=Youtube&utm_campaign=1mo → Stakwork: https://stakwork.com/ This show is a Lightning podcast. That means instead of asking for likes or shares, I ask for sats. The best way to show your support is to download Fountain from the App Store, load your wallet with some sats, and send them over the Lightning Network to kerooke@fountain.fm. → Fountain: https://www.fountain.fm/ → More Episodes: https://play.fountain.fm/show/P6XXuSPg6f2rj4ECB0fT → Lightning Address: ⚡kerooke@fountain.fm Links → Stack Sats: https://www.stacksats.how/ → Twitter: https://twitter.com/kerooke → Books: https://www.kevinrooke.com/book-recommendations → Blog: https://www.kevinrooke.com/blog Timestamps 00:00 - Intro 02:44 - Ry Sterling Intro 15:23 - Gamifying Money on the Lightning Network 20:30 - Remittances & IBEX Cash 26:48 - Where Will Lightning Adoption Come From? 30:23 - What Lessons IBEX Learned From Pitching Merchants 42:35 - When Will Square Introduce Lightning Payments? 43:28 - Why IBEX’s Business Is Accelerating 47:36 - IBEX & El Salvador 55:55 - What Impact Will Fiat Bridges on Lightning Have on the World? 1:03:54 - The Lightning Round

Ray Marceau is the CEO of Purse, a marketplace enabling anyone to spend Bitcoin to buy products on Amazon, or sell Amazon gift cards to buy Bitcoin. In our discussion, Ray explained how the Purse platform works, the ups and downs of their 8-year journey in the Bitcoin space, why Purse decided to integrate Lightning payments this summer, and why they’re considering focusing exclusively on Bitcoin on their platform. → Purse: https://app.purse.io?_r=StackSats Sponsors → Voltage: https://voltage.cloud?utm_source=kevinrooke&utm_medium=Youtube&utm_campaign=1mo → Stakwork: https://stakwork.com/ This show is a Lightning podcast. That means instead of asking for likes or shares, I ask for sats. The best way to show your support is to download Fountain from the App Store, load your wallet with some sats, and send them over the Lightning Network to kerooke@fountain.fm. → Fountain: https://www.fountain.fm/ → More Episodes: https://play.fountain.fm/show/P6XXuSPg6f2rj4ECB0fT → Lightning Address: ⚡kerooke@fountain.fm Links → Stack Sats: https://www.stacksats.how/ → Twitter: https://twitter.com/kerooke → Books: https://www.kevinrooke.com/book-recommendations → Blog: https://www.kevinrooke.com/blog Timestamps 00:00 - Intro 02:38 - Ray Marceau Intro 13:54 - How Does Purse Work? 17:28 - Purse and Amazon Gift Cards 23:55 - Purse’s Lightning Network Integration 36:04 - What Lightning Metrics Is Purse Watching? 38:04 - Why Purse is Focusing on Bitcoin 56:42 - Privacy on Lightning 59:42 - Ray’s Lessons Learned as CEO 1:06:03 - The Lightning Round

Lyle Pratt is the founder and CEO of Vida, a platform for letting anyone monetize their time with paid messages, calls, and livestreams. In our discussion, Lyle explained how Vida works, the role Lightning payments might play across social media, his experience building on Lightning to date, and how Vida could help more people earn more Bitcoin. → Vida: https://vida.page/?ref=kr Sponsor → Voltage: https://voltage.cloud?utm_source=kevinrooke&utm_medium=Youtube&utm_campaign=1mo This show is a Lightning podcast. That means instead of asking for likes or shares, I ask for sats. The best way to show your support is to download Fountain from the App Store, load your wallet with some sats, and send them over the Lightning Network to kerooke@fountain.fm. → Fountain: https://www.fountain.fm/ → More Episodes: https://play.fountain.fm/show/P6XXuSPg6f2rj4ECB0fT → Lightning Address: ⚡kerooke@fountain.fm Links → Twitter: https://twitter.com/kerooke → Books: https://www.kevinrooke.com/book-recommendations → Blog: https://www.kevinrooke.com/blog Timestamps 00:00 - Intro 02:06 - Lyle Pratt Intro 05:37 - Vida’s Vision 12:27 - Why is Money the Right Tool to Reduce Spam? 18:08 - Will Advertisers Target Vida Users? 22:53 - Emerging Vida Use Cases 32:25 - Payment Splits and Referral Systems 41:59 - Vida Adoption To Date 43:46 - Lyle’s Experience Building on Lightning 57:47 - Creators Earning on Vida 1:02:20 - How Will Vida Capture Value? 1:16:47 - The Lightning Round

Egge is the co-founder of Starbackr and an advertising industry veteran who has fallen down the Bitcoin and Lightning rabbit hole. Egge explained how the world of advertising works, how Lightning could offer improvements for advertisers and consumers, and how the creator economy might evolve on a Bitcoin standard. → Starbackr: https://starbackr.com/ Sponsor → Voltage: https://voltage.cloud?utm_source=kevinrooke&utm_medium=Youtube&utm_campaign=1mo This show is a Lightning podcast. That means instead of asking for likes or shares, I ask for sats. The best way to show your support is to download Fountain from the App Store, load your wallet with some sats, and send them over the Lightning Network to kerooke@fountain.fm. → Fountain: https://www.fountain.fm/ → More Episodes: https://play.fountain.fm/show/P6XXuSPg6f2rj4ECB0fT → Lightning Address: ⚡kerooke@fountain.fm Links → Twitter: https://twitter.com/kerooke → Books: https://www.kevinrooke.com/book-recommendations → Blog: https://www.kevinrooke.com/blog Timestamps 00:00 - Intro 01:55 - Egge Intro 06:38 - The Advertising Industry Today 17:20 - Disrupting The Advertising Middlemen 25:40 - Changing The Relationship People Have With Advertisers 40:42 - Advertising on the Lightning Network 50:26 - Creator Monetization Business Models 54:56 - Enabling Anyone to Earn Online 1:06:15 - The Lightning Round

Danny Diekroeger is a Bitcoin software engineer at Cash App, and the operator of one of the world’s largest Lightning nodes. In our conversation, Danny explained how Cash App thinks about building Bitcoin and Lightning features, and the challenges of operating a Bitcoin business at scale. we also discussed Spiral’s Lightning Development Kit and Danny’s strategy for becoming a top Lightning node operator. → Deezy Node: https://deezy.io/ → Danny Diekroeger on Twitter: https://twitter.com/dannydiekroeger Sponsors → Voltage: https://voltage.cloud?utm_source=kevinrooke&utm_medium=Youtube&utm_campaign=1mo → ZEBEDEE: https://zeb.gg/rooke This show is a Lightning podcast. That means instead of asking for likes or shares, I ask for sats. The best way to show your support is to download Fountain from the App Store, load your wallet with some sats, and send them over the Lightning Network to kerooke@fountain.fm. → Fountain: https://www.fountain.fm/ → More Episodes: https://play.fountain.fm/show/P6XXuSPg6f2rj4ECB0fT → Lightning Address: ⚡kerooke@fountain.fm Links → Twitter: https://twitter.com/kerooke → Books: https://www.kevinrooke.com/book-recommendations → Blog: https://www.kevinrooke.com/blog Timestamps 00:00 - Intro 02:19 - Danny Diekroeger Intro 07:55 - Why Cash App Integrated Lightning 13:41 - Lightning Adoption at Cash App 23:28 - Lightning Network Payment Success Rate 26:22 - Cash App’s Infrastructure for Building Bitcoin Apps at Scale 43:08 - How Companies Choose Between Lightning Implementations 48:10 - The Evolution of Block’s Business Structure 1:00:57 - Danny’s Journey to Becoming a LN Node Operator 1:09:51 - Reputation on the Lightning Network 1:20:35 - Running a Profitable Lightning Node 1:24:34 - The Lightning Round