
All the Presidents' Lawyers
All presidents have legal issues. Some have more than others. A weekly conversation about the law, executive power, and all the presidents' lawyers, good and bad.
Latest episodes

Nov 25, 2021 • 32min
The end of the road, for now
It’s been more than three years since Josh Barro and Ken White started All The President’s Lawyers (the first name of this show) to explore the legal problems of then-President Donald Trump, and wow, did he have legal problems. He still has legal problems, but he’s no longer president, and it’s time to wind down this very fun show.
On this final episode, Josh and Ken update us on where the main characters are now: Trump himself, Michael Cohen, and more.
Thanks for listening to All The President’s/s’ Lawyers.

Nov 17, 2021 • 34min
Summer’s over
Just 22 days after Steve Bannon was referred to the Department of Justice for contempt of Congress, we have an indictment. Is that a long time? No, very much not. Ken says that’s the speed you’d expect for someone who’s robbed a break or something “showy that involves guns.” What happens next? What does the government have to prove here? And what message does this send to the other people defying subpoenas?
Then: Summer Zervos, a former contestant on “The Apprentice,” has dropped her long-running defamation lawsuit against former Presidnet Trump, not long before he was supposed to finally be deposed. Zervos accused Trump of groping her at the Beverly Hills Hotel in 2007, and in 2016, Trump denied meeting her or greeting her inappropriately. She sued him for defamation, and he successfully delayed the litigation through his presidency. Lately though, it appeared that lawyers were negotiating his deposition. Now Zervos’s lawyers say she “no longer wishes to litigate against the defendant and has secured the right to speak freely about her experience.” Josh and Ken read the tea leaves here.
Plus: an update on the National Archives documents, Alex Jones, and Sidney Powell and the curious story of the supposed capture of CIA Director Gina Haspel…(what???)

Nov 10, 2021 • 30min
Another indictment from Durham
An indictment from Durham in the investigation of links between Trump's campaign and Russia. Analysis of false statements and their impact on the FBI's evaluation of the dossier. Controversy over Trump's records at the National Archives. Escape to Belarus and questionable legal advice. A motion for vacation during release and its strategic implications. A legal fund for Trump aides and organizers of the January 6th rally.

Nov 3, 2021 • 30min
Low-hanging fruit
Former President Trump is seeking to block the release of documents related to the January 6 riot. The balance between the public's right to know and protecting certain information is discussed. The concept of SPACs and Trump's attempt to create one for his social media company is explored. Judges raise concerns about the prosecutorial strategy and potential disparity in sentencing. The legal battle over Giuliani's seized documents and attorney-client privilege is examined. The use of phone conversations and handwritten notes to avoid leaving evidence is discussed.

Oct 27, 2021 • 34min
Guilty. Appealing. Talking. Referred for contempt.
Lev Parnas convicted on charges related to concealing political contributions; discussions on taking the stand. Michael Avenatti indicted on four sets of trials, arguing against double jeopardy. John Eastman interviewed about controversial memo and attorney's role. Steve Bannon held in criminal contempt and DOJ referral.

Oct 20, 2021 • 29min
Testing the boundaries of executive privilege
Former President Trump's lawsuit against the National Archives and the January 6 Committee, executive privilege boundaries, Steve Bannon's criminal referral, legal complications of depositions, analyzing factual claims in defamation cases, deposition delays and defense strategies

Oct 13, 2021 • 28min
Is a plea bargain a good deal?
Discussing the fairness of plea bargains in Capitol riot cases, the decline of federal criminal trials, power imbalances in plea bargaining, and the appropriateness of plea deals. Examining the charges and sentences related to the Capitol riot, the influence of politically significant events on sentencing, and the need for informed discussions on handling criminal cases. Exploring the legal protection of inflammatory statements, the discretion of federal judges in sentencing, and evaluating prosecutorial strategy.

Oct 6, 2021 • 32min
What is a state actor?
Former President Donald Trump's lawsuit against Twitter, the concept of private entities as state actors, a new class action lawsuit against Dominion Voting Systems, the risks of state charges for Trump in Georgia, Matt Gaetz's legal team, and Dan Scavino evading a congressional committee subpoena.

Sep 29, 2021 • 33min
Trump Derangement Syndrome with David Lat
Special guest David Lat joins Ken White to discuss 'Trump Derangement Syndrome' among lawyers defending Donald Trump, highlighting attorneys who went astray, such as Jeffrey Clark and John Eastman. They also delve into Rudy Giuliani's fall from grace and critique Supreme Court fantasies. The hosts express gratitude to listeners and remind them to donate.

Sep 23, 2021 • 36min
An unusual indictment, an unusual memo
Former US attorney John Durham has indicted attorney Michael Sussman for making false statements to federal officials. The podcast discusses the unusual aspects of this indictment. They also analyze a memo produced by a lawyer for the Trump campaign, arguing that Mike Pence had the authority to set aside election results and declare Donald Trump the lawful president. Other topics include Alan Weisselberg's potential indictment, Trump's lawsuit against Mary Trump, and the risks of opening litigation for a two-decade-old financial settlement.