DevOps was conceived as a way to bring developers and operations together, but has it really worked? In this episode, Dave Williams sits down with Cory O’Daniel to discuss his controversial blog post “DevOps Is Bullshit.” Find out why Cory sees platform engineering as a solution. Discover its potential as an antidote to the unmet promises and inherent challenges within the current DevOps landscape. Tune in now!Love the show? Subscribe, rate, review, & share!

Cory O’Daniel, a platform engineering expert, joins Chris Hill, a seasoned cloud operations engineer, to discuss the evolving landscape of platform engineering. They delve into how this approach enhances infrastructure management while emphasizing security and compliance challenges. Chris shares insights from his decade-long experience, underlining the balance between feature development and security. The conversation also highlights the transformative role of self-service tools like Massdriver, enabling independent and compliant infrastructure management for engineers.

Dave Williams, an expert in platform engineering, dives into the innovative future of managing cloud applications. He highlights the importance of adopting a product mindset to elevate developer productivity. The conversation explores the evolution of software development, illustrating how developers can focus more on coding while leaving operational tasks behind. Williams compares building cloud services to assembling a bicycle, emphasizing the benefits of targeted, modular approaches. He also discusses the shift from traditional software development to platform engineering, prioritizing efficiency and scalability.