BRAVE Southeast Asia Tech: Singapore, Indonesia, Vietnam, Philippines, Thailand & Malaysia Startups, Founders & Venture Capital VC (English)

Henry Motte-de la Motte, Founder & CEO of Edge Tutor, and Jeremy Au discussed three main topics: 1. Personal Passion For Learning: Henry shared his background as an introverted child moving frequently due to his father's job. His personal exposure to multiple educational systems inspired him to later build two education tech startups to help nurture the next generation both in the Philippines and globally. 2. Standardized Testing Debate vs. True Life Skills: Henry debated the role of standardized testing - advocating for its continuation but also recommending expansion to include more relevant 21st-century skills. He discussed the need for further educational reform with the aid of technology and an eye on the jobs of the future. 3. Education Startup Challenges & Gritty Reality: Henry spoke about the idealism prevalent in the education sector, the challenge of multi-stakeholder sales dynamics and the consequences of the pandemic-driven remote learning movement. He reflected on his personal growth as a founder operating across multiple countries and educational systems. Jeremy and Henry also touched upon topics like the pivotal influence of government policies in education, the future of AI in learning, and the challenges of innovating within a traditional industry like education. Watch, listen or read the full insight at https://www.bravesea.com/blog/henry-motte-de-la-motte Get transcripts, startup resources & community discussions at www.bravesea.com WhatsApp: https://whatsapp.com/channel/0029VakR55X6BIElUEvkN02e TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@jeremyau Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyauz Twitter: https://twitter.com/jeremyau LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/bravesea TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@jeremyau Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyauz Twitter: https://twitter.com/jeremyau LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/bravesea English: Spotify | YouTube | Apple Podcasts Bahasa Indonesia: Spotify | YouTube | Apple Podcasts Learn more about Hive Health here: https://www.ourhivehealth.com

Shiyan Koh, Managing Partner of Hustle Fund, and Jeremy Au talked about three main themes: 1. Podcast Hosting Gratitude: Jeremy and Shiyan reviewed their year-long journey of podcasting covering Southeast Asia tech. They reflected on the growth, challenges, and rich interactions they've had with their audience, and shared their appreciation for each other. 2. 2023 Startups & VC Bear Market: Jeremy and Shiyan recapped the challenges that regional startups, especially in later stages, faced in adapting to the bear funding landscape of 2023. Beyond founder mindset changes, they touched on the importance for VCs to conduct structural reflections on their investment decisions (both successes and failures) and the challenges due to the different incentives and lifecycles for junior and senior investors. 3. 2024 Southeast Asia Tech Predictions: Jeremy and Shiyan shared their predictions for 2024 such as the continued bear market challenges for later-stage companies that need to thus grow more to justify their bull-market valuations and/or conduct significant cuts. They view the press to be a lagging signal of these impending decisions. They also predicted deeper press and LP scrutiny on regional VC's individual investments (business models, operational efficiency and bottom-line sustainability). They also raised the upcoming political inflection points (and thus confluence) for the 2024 elections of Taiwan, USA, Indonesia and India. They also talked about the significance of understanding unit economics for startups, the understated role of customer selection in business success, and the importance of understanding the multi-factorial causes of failure in the VC process. Watch, listen or read the full insight at https://www.bravesea.com/blog/2024-tech-forecast Get transcripts, startup resources & community discussions at www.bravesea.com WhatsApp: https://whatsapp.com/channel/0029VakR55X6BIElUEvkN02e TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@jeremyau Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyauz Twitter: https://twitter.com/jeremyau LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/bravesea TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@jeremyau Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyauz Twitter: https://twitter.com/jeremyau LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/bravesea English: Spotify | YouTube | Apple Podcasts Bahasa Indonesia: Spotify | YouTube | Apple Podcasts Learn more about Hive Health here: https://www.ourhivehealth.com

Jeremy reflects on his 20s with the "hustle and grind" mindset during army, Bain consultant, and founder days. He pushed the limits of his body with a "macho man" mentality with all-nighters, eating poorly, and bad lifestyle choices. Turning 36 years old, discovering a severe vitamin D deficiency, and becoming a dad changed his mindset towards "health is wealth." Perseverance "mind over matter" is actually an output function of a healthy and integrated human biological system which requires focus and self-care. Watch, listen or read the full insight at https://www.bravesea.com/blog/health-vs-success Get transcripts, startup resources & community discussions at www.bravesea.com WhatsApp: https://whatsapp.com/channel/0029VakR55X6BIElUEvkN02e TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@jeremyau Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyauz Twitter: https://twitter.com/jeremyau LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/bravesea TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@jeremyau Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyauz Twitter: https://twitter.com/jeremyau LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/bravesea English: Spotify | YouTube | Apple Podcasts Bahasa Indonesia: Spotify | YouTube | Apple Podcasts Learn more about Hive Health here: https://www.ourhivehealth.com

Carlo Chen-Delantar, Founding Partner of Gobi-Core Philippine Fund & Head of ESG at Gobi Partners, and Jeremy Au talked about three main themes: 1. Career Journey from Social Impact to VC: Carlo shared his journey from a family of entrepreneurs in the Philippines to his work in the nonprofit sector, focusing on social impact and clean water access. His transition to venture capital was unplanned, influenced by the realization of the potential impact through technology and capital allocation. 2. Gobi & Alibaba Philippines Startup Report: Carlo discussed the burgeoning startup landscape, the importance of understanding the local ecosystem, the role of technology in economic and social progress, and the challenges and opportunities for startups. He emphasized the structural and policy need to improve the ease of doing business and the attraction, retention, and training of talent across the country. 3. Emerging Markets Iron Triangle: Carlo explained the concept of the "Iron Triangle" in emerging markets (fintech, e-commerce & logistics). He shared specific FinTech opportunities and emphasized the significance of national ID systems and growth opportunities (in sectors like health tech and gaming) fueled by the young and digitally savvy. Jeremy and Carlo also discussed the challenges of doing business, the cost of brain drain, government policies affecting startups, and the importance of inclusive development across different regions of the Philippines. WhatsApp: https://whatsapp.com/channel/0029VakR55X6BIElUEvkN02e Get transcripts, startup resources & community discussions at www.bravesea.com WhatsApp: https://chat.whatsapp.com/CeL3ywi7yOWFd8HTo6yzde TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@jeremyau Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyauz Twitter: https://twitter.com/jeremyau LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/bravesea TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@jeremyau Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyauz Twitter: https://twitter.com/jeremyau LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/bravesea English: Spotify | YouTube | Apple Podcasts Bahasa Indonesia: Spotify | YouTube | Apple Podcasts Learn more about Hive Health here: https://www.ourhivehealth.com

Wing Vasiksiri, General Partner of WV, and Jeremy Au discussed three main points: 1. Thailand Strong Economics Macros: Wing shared how Thailand ranks 2nd in GDP ($495B USD), 3rd in GDP per capita ($6900 USD) and 4th in population (72M) among the ASEAN-6 nations. Highly educated, robust household internet connectivity (90%) and strong daily usage of the internet (9h). 2. Historical Startup Ecosystem Underperformance: Despite economic strengths and fundamentals, Thailand is ranked last among the ASEAN-6 with only 180 funded startups (Singapore 1780, Indonesia 860, Vietnam 340, Malaysia 280, Philippines 185). Wing discusses key factors including entrepreneurship culture, limited risk capital, corporate-centricity of VC, language, startup talent flywheel, and lack of prior government support for innovation. 3. Why The Time is Now: Wing expressed optimism about the future of Thailand's startup ecosystem, citing positive changes driven by government funding initiatives, cultural shift towards entrepreneurship, strong stock exchange allowing for domestic listings, They also discussed other potential improvements that individual, corporates and policy-makers can choose to make. Wing and Jeremy also talked about the impact of corporates on the economy, inequality's influence on startups, and Thailand's stock market’s unique liquidity paths for startup exits. Watch, listen or read the full insight at https://www.bravesea.com/blog/thailand-bcg-report Get transcripts, startup resources & community discussions at www.bravesea.com WhatsApp: https://whatsapp.com/channel/0029VakR55X6BIElUEvkN02e TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@jeremyau Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyauz Twitter: https://twitter.com/jeremyau LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/bravesea TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@jeremyau Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyauz Twitter: https://twitter.com/jeremyau LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/bravesea English: Spotify | YouTube | Apple Podcasts Bahasa Indonesia: Spotify | YouTube | Apple Podcasts Learn more about Hive Health here: https://www.ourhivehealth.com

Over 90% of VC-funded startup founders fail. In other words, the default scenario for a founder is moving on from their startup and figuring out their next career chapter. Most founders will naturally consider launching another startup vs. other employment opportunities. Learn more about Harvard research about what types of second-time founders succeed on their next venture. Jeremy then shares about the three patterns of sequel startups: revenge, rebound and rebirth startups. Examples include Adam Neumann (Flow vs. WeWork), Travis Kalanick (Cloud Kitchens vs. Uber), Kevin Systrom (Artifact vs. Instagram), Conrad Parker (Rippling vs. Zenefits) and Palmer Luckey (Anduril vs. Oculus). Jeremy then goes into how to gain personal closure, maintain professional integrity and explore what it takes to succeed in a new venture.  Watch, listen or read the full insight at https://www.bravesea.com/blog/paths-forward Get transcripts, startup resources & community discussions at www.bravesea.com WhatsApp: https://whatsapp.com/channel/0029VakR55X6BIElUEvkN02e TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@jeremyau Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyauz Twitter: https://twitter.com/jeremyau LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/bravesea TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@jeremyau Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyauz Twitter: https://twitter.com/jeremyau LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/bravesea English: Spotify | YouTube | Apple Podcasts Bahasa Indonesia: Spotify | YouTube | Apple Podcasts Learn more about Hive Health here: https://www.ourhivehealth.com

Anthony Tjajadi, Founding Partner at Trihill Capital,and Jeremy Au talked about three main themes: 1. Indonesia Market Insights: Anthony discussed that the necessary qualities of successful Indonesian founders are hard work, being savvy at market dynamics and understanding of local political nuances, with examples in supply chain challenges and consumer behavior in Tier 2 and Tier 3 cities. He shared his assessment that while Indonesia boasts a large, young, and growing middle-class population, the potential for consumer spending is not as robust as macro indicators suggest. 2. Trihill Capital’s Investment Thesis: Anthony described Trihill Capital as a sector-agnostic, early-to-growth-stage VC that prefers investing in tech-enabled businesses. He talked about their focus on scalability, profitability, unit economics, and speed of growth when evaluating companies, as well as their approach to investing in public equities. 3. VC Tradecraft: Anthony advised about what VCs should look for in potential investments and how to navigate the Indonesian market in comparison to the US and China. He stressed the need for VCs to be extroverted and people-oriented, given the need for constant interaction with founders and other investors. He shared about the bold step he took in moving to Singapore to start the fund and advised aspiring venture capitalists to be prepared to make mistakes and understand their personal risk appetite. Jeremy and Anthony also discussed the thesis behind investing in agritech, the necessity for founders to be fully aware of their market, and the importance of a strong support system for entrepreneurs.  Watch, listen or read the full insight at https://www.bravesea.com/blog/anthony-tjajadi Get transcripts, startup resources & community discussions at www.bravesea.com WhatsApp: https://whatsapp.com/channel/0029VakR55X6BIElUEvkN02e TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@jeremyau Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyauz Twitter: https://twitter.com/jeremyau LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/bravesea TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@jeremyau Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyauz Twitter: https://twitter.com/jeremyau LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/bravesea English: Spotify | YouTube | Apple Podcasts Bahasa Indonesia: Spotify | YouTube | Apple Podcasts Learn more about Hive Health here: https://www.ourhivehealth.com

Jelmer Ikink, Founding Partner of Foxmont Capital Partners, and Jeremy Au talked about three main topics: 1. Childhood Curiosity (Lehman Brothers & McKinsey): Jelmer shared about his childhood habit of walking around with his hands behind his back and asking questions. This deep-rooted curiosity translated into his academic life, initially pursuing finance for his undergraduate studies and law and diplomacy for his master's degree. He talked about his transition from investment banking at Lehman Brothers to McKinsey management consulting to entrepreneurial ventures in China and the Philippines. 2. Foxmont Founding Vision: Jelmer discussed how they decided on the name Foxmont Capital Partners after being inspired by the discerning nature of foxes as well as their regular meeting spots at the Fairmont and Raffles hotels. He highlighted Foxmont's commitment to nurturing the entrepreneurial landscape in the Philippines. He also talked about the success of their annual Foxmont Summit that convenes the founder ecosystem. 3. 10-Year Life Projections: Jelmer dove into the significant risk he took in deciding to move to Asia and away from a more certain career path. He used the technique of projecting himself ten years into the future to weigh where he would rather be and what stories he would like to have accumulated in his life. He acknowledged that while parts of the journey turned out better (and worse) than expected, he had intentionally chosen to be more mindful of his experience with fewer expectations of himself. Jeremy and Jelmer also talked about the future shifts in the Philippines’ investment landscape, the country’s macroeconomic growth and the role of luck in VC. Watch, listen or read the full insight at https://www.bravesea.com/blog/jelmer-ikink Get transcripts, startup resources & community discussions at www.bravesea.com WhatsApp: https://whatsapp.com/channel/0029VakR55X6BIElUEvkN02e TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@jeremyau Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyauz Twitter: https://twitter.com/jeremyau LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/bravesea TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@jeremyau Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyauz Twitter: https://twitter.com/jeremyau LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/bravesea English: Spotify | YouTube | Apple Podcasts Bahasa Indonesia: Spotify | YouTube | Apple Podcasts Learn more about Hive Health here: https://www.ourhivehealth.com

In this discussion, Fandy Cendrajaya, Founding Partner of Kopital Ventures, and Jeremy Au talked about three main themes: 1. Indonesia Bear vs. Bull Market: Fandy talked about Indonesia’s evolving market sentiment from the bullish 2020-2021 to the more cautious investor sentiment in from 2022 to 2024. He shared the importance of being realistic in comparing Indonesia vs. benchmark startups in larger markets like India, China, and the US. He also explained the nuances of the local tech ecosystem across commodity-based growth, consumer-driven trends, and localization requirements. 2. Founding Kopital Ventures: Fandy described building Kopital Ventures with his cofounder who shared the same vision and complementary skill sets. He explained their LP fundraising approach by emphasizing their seed-only investments without follow-on funding, allowing them to collaborate with other VCs. 3. Tough Startup Exits & Strategy: Fandy emphasized the scarcity of significant exit opportunities for startups in Southeast Asia, which affects how VCs should both invest and counsel their portfolio companies. He talked about the IPO and stock performance of startups GoTo, Grab, and Bukalapak on the Indonesia Stock Exchange (IDX), and how this local listing approach contrasts with the US IPO strategy. He underscored why founders should therefore be more thoughtful and agile in their exit strategies, thus setting benchmarks for valuations and investor expectations better. Jeremy and Fandy also discussed the importance of looking at company valuation comparables, the nuances of angel investing, and the significance of empathy in working with founders. Watch, listen or read the full insight at https://www.bravesea.com/blog/fandy-cendrajaya Get transcripts, startup resources & community discussions at www.bravesea.com WhatsApp: https://whatsapp.com/channel/0029VakR55X6BIElUEvkN02e TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@jeremyau Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyauz Twitter: https://twitter.com/jeremyau LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/bravesea TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@jeremyau Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyauz Twitter: https://twitter.com/jeremyau LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/bravesea English: Spotify | YouTube | Apple Podcasts Bahasa Indonesia: Spotify | YouTube | Apple Podcasts Learn more about Hive Health here: https://www.ourhivehealth.com

JX Lye, Founder of Acme Technology and former Chief Product Officer of Endowus, and Jeremy Au talked about three main topics: 1. Early Career & Academic Decisions: JX recounted his academic choices across junior college in Singapore, mandatory military service, University of Pennsylvania and a master's degree at Stanford University. He talked about his initial career at the Singapore Economic Development Board (EDB) attracting tech investments to Singapore. He shared what he learnt working in the US as a Product Manager at the scaling growth-stage startups of Dropbox and Lyft. 2. China vs. US Tech Culture: JX discussed the differences between the US and China’s tech work environments. He noted the fast-paced, competitive and intense consumer focus of ByteDance, which required him to unlearn his US product manager training. He brought these learnings to Endowus as Chief Product Officer and worked on scaling both the front-end user experience for a seamless customer experience and the complex financial backend needed for compliance. 3. Revolutionizing Bank Integrations: JX shared how his insights at Endowus helped him identify significant inefficiencies in bank integrations and financial transactions. He saw the opportunity to streamline financial processes not just for fintech companies but also across various industries, which led him to build Acme Technology. He shared the challenges of starting a new company and emphasized the importance of continuous selling, customer focus, and adapting to market needs. Jeremy and JX also talked about the emergence of the product manager role, the different market segments in fintech, and the importance of understanding real-world problems instead of theory. Watch, listen or read the full insight at https://www.bravesea.com/blog/jx-lye Get transcripts, startup resources & community discussions at www.bravesea.com WhatsApp: https://whatsapp.com/channel/0029VakR55X6BIElUEvkN02e Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4TnqkaWpTT181lMA8xNu0T YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@JeremyAu Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/sg/podcast/brave-southeast-asia-tech-singapore-indonesia-vietnam/id1506890464 Google Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkLnBvZC5jby9icmF2ZWR5bmFtaWNz TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@jeremyau Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyauz Twitter: https://twitter.com/jeremyau LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/bravesea Learn more about Acme Technology here: https://www.tryacme.com