
The Non-Anxious Leader Podcast
The Non-Anxious Leader Podcast uses a family systems theory approach to increase your spiritual, emotional and physical well-being so you can be the best leader possible. Each episode explores research and practical tips to help you be a personal and professional non-anxious presence.
Latest episodes

Jan 20, 2025 • 12min
Episode 314: A Family Systems Take on Seth Godin's 10 Elements of a System-Part 3 of 3
In Seth Godin’s new book, This Is Strategy, he outlines 10 elements of a system. In this episode, I outline elements seven through ten in family systems terms.
Show Notes:
This Is Strategy by Seth Godin*
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Jan 19, 2025 • 12min
Episode 313: A Family Systems Take on Seth Godin's 10 Elements of a System-Part 2 of 3
In Seth Godin’s new book, This Is Strategy, he outlines 10 elements of a system. In this episode, I outline elements four through six in family systems terms.
Show Notes:
This Is Strategy by Seth Godin*
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Jan 6, 2025 • 12min
Episode 312: A Family Systems Take on Seth Godin's 10 Elements of a System-Part 1 of 3
In Seth Godin's new book, This Is Strategy, he outlines 10 elements of a system. In this episode, I outline the first three elements in family systems terms.
Show Notes:
This Is Strategy by Seth Godin*
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Dec 30, 2024 • 18min
Episode 311: The Year End Review (with a Family Systems Take - Rebroadcast)
The most effective leaders do a year-end review. Here are three approaches that will help you reflect on all aspects of your life. Doing a year-end review will take you about an hour. It will not only help you make the most of this year's experiences, it will help you get a great start in the new year.
Show Notes:
Forget New Year’s Resolutions and Conduct a ‘Past Year Review’ Instead by Tim Ferriss
Advice for Entering the New Year: The Yearly Review by Matt Perman
Reviewing the Past Year & Looking Ahead to the Coming Year by Kathy Paauw
One New Habit, One Big Goal: Change Your Life in 10 Weeks by Jack Shitama
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Dec 23, 2024 • 15min
Episode 310: 5 Ways You Can Grow as a Non-Anxious Presence - Part 2 of 2
Discover the art of self-differentiation and how it can transform your relationships. Explore the significance of monitoring your reactivity and pain thresholds in maintaining a non-anxious presence. Learn to navigate emotional turmoil, including the complexities of infidelity, while cultivating calmness and support. Get inspired by the idea of detaching from toxic relationships to foster personal growth and healthier dynamics.

Dec 16, 2024 • 12min
Episode 309: 5 Ways You Can Grow as a Non-Anxious Presence - Part 1 of 2
Discover the power of self-differentiation and how it helps manage personal and others' anxieties. Explore the balance of emotional distance in relationships and its impact on connection. Delve into the importance of addressing unresolved issues, featuring a moving story of a woman who wrote to her deceased father. These insights provide essential tools for personal growth and effective leadership.

Dec 9, 2024 • 13min
Episode 308: 5 Ways to Assess the Health of Any Relationship System – Part 2 of 2
Whether it's your family, organization or congregation, the functioning of any relationship system is dependent on the level of self-differentiation among its members. In this two-part episode, I unpack a schema developed by Daniel V. Papero of the Bowen Center for the Study of the Family.
Show Notes:
Developing a systems model for family assessment. Family Systems: A Journal of Natural Systems Thinking in Psychiatry and the Sciences. 13, 2, 2018 by Daniel V. Papero.
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Dec 2, 2024 • 12min
Episode 307: 5 Ways to Assess the Health of Any Relationship System – Part 1 of 2
Whether it's your family, organization or congregation, the functioning of any relationship system is dependent on the level of self-differentiation among its members. In this two-part episode, I unpack a schema developed by Daniel V. Papero of the Bowen Center for the Study of the Family.
Show Notes:
Developing a systems model for family assessment. Family Systems: A Journal of Natural Systems Thinking in Psychiatry and the Sciences. 13, 2, 2018 by Daniel V. Papero.
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Nov 25, 2024 • 16min
Episode 306: How to Prepare Yourself for a Hard Holiday Discussion
Whether it's family or work, having discussions with people who disagree can be a challenge. This episode shows you how you can do better.
Show Notes:
A Non-Anxious Presence Workbook: Five Steps to Go Be Yourself (available for $9 until Midnight EST on Friday, November 29, 2024; $15 after that).
Episode 99: A Family Systems Take on Non-Violent (or Compassionate) Communication – Part 1
Episode 100: A Family Systems Take on Non-Violent (or Compassionate) Communication – Part 2
Cup of Empathy - Marianne VanDijk
NVC for People Pleasers
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Nov 18, 2024 • 14min
Episode 305: We Have to Do Better - How a Non-Anxious Leader Can Make a Difference
The division in our world is unsustainable. If we don't do something, we're headed for disaster. Here's what you can do.
Show Notes:
Why We Got It So Wrong by David Brooks
Nonviolence - The Martin Luther King, Jr. Research and Education Institute at Stanford University:
David and Goliath: Underdogs, Misfits, and the Art of Battling Giants by Malcom Gladwell
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