
The Non-Anxious Leader Podcast
The Non-Anxious Leader Podcast uses a family systems theory approach to increase your spiritual, emotional and physical well-being so you can be the best leader possible. Each episode explores research and practical tips to help you be a personal and professional non-anxious presence.
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Dec 2, 2024 • 12min
Episode 307: 5 Ways to Assess the Health of Any Relationship System – Part 1 of 2
Whether it's your family, organization or congregation, the functioning of any relationship system is dependent on the level of self-differentiation among its members. In this two-part episode, I unpack a schema developed by Daniel V. Papero of the Bowen Center for the Study of the Family.
Show Notes:
Developing a systems model for family assessment. Family Systems: A Journal of Natural Systems Thinking in Psychiatry and the Sciences. 13, 2, 2018 by Daniel V. Papero.
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Nov 25, 2024 • 16min
Episode 306: How to Prepare Yourself for a Hard Holiday Discussion
Whether it's family or work, having discussions with people who disagree can be a challenge. This episode shows you how you can do better.
Show Notes:
A Non-Anxious Presence Workbook: Five Steps to Go Be Yourself (available for $9 until Midnight EST on Friday, November 29, 2024; $15 after that).
Episode 99: A Family Systems Take on Non-Violent (or Compassionate) Communication – Part 1
Episode 100: A Family Systems Take on Non-Violent (or Compassionate) Communication – Part 2
Cup of Empathy - Marianne VanDijk
NVC for People Pleasers
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Nov 18, 2024 • 14min
Episode 305: We Have to Do Better - How a Non-Anxious Leader Can Make a Difference
The division in our world is unsustainable. If we don't do something, we're headed for disaster. Here's what you can do.
Show Notes:
Why We Got It So Wrong by David Brooks
Nonviolence - The Martin Luther King, Jr. Research and Education Institute at Stanford University:
David and Goliath: Underdogs, Misfits, and the Art of Battling Giants by Malcom Gladwell
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Nov 11, 2024 • 12min
Episode 304: What to Do Now that the Election Is Over
Whether or not you supported the winner or even live in the US, this episode can help you grow as a non-anxious leader.
Show Notes:
Nonviolence - The Martin Luther King, Jr. Research and Education Institute at Stanford University
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Nov 4, 2024 • 21min
Episode 303: Family Systems Theory - A Practical Overview (Rebroadcast)
Discover how family systems theory applies to leadership and the power of self-differentiation. Learn to balance personal values with emotional connections while navigating familial pressures. The importance of self-regulation shines as leaders distinguish between reactive and thoughtful responses. Embrace playfulness to reduce anxiety and transform tense interactions. Understand how awareness of emotional dynamics can strengthen relationships and lead to healthier decision-making. Personal stories illustrate these concepts, making them relatable and actionable.

Oct 28, 2024 • 12min
Episode 302: Nobody Likes to Be Told What to Do
Discover the power of self-differentiation and its impact on personal autonomy. Explore how overcoming resistance transforms challenges into growth opportunities, using relatable anecdotes like cleaning the garage. Learn how effective leadership hinges on a growth mindset that fosters emotional connections within teams. Delve into the role of empathy in creating a supportive work environment that enhances individual commitment and community engagement.

Oct 21, 2024 • 9min
Episode 301: How Humor Helps You as a Non-Anxious Leader (and How It Doesn't)
Leadership doesn’t have to be all seriousness; humor can be a powerful tool. It helps reduce anxiety and fosters trust within teams. However, it’s essential to use humor appropriately to maintain healthy relationships. The podcast reveals how leaders can balance humor with the truth to create a positive atmosphere. Discover the transformative impact of lightness in leadership and learn how small insights can lead to bigger breakthroughs. Trust and a non-anxious approach can change the game!

Oct 14, 2024 • 14min
Episode 300: Pain and Responsibility
Allowing others to experience the pain and consequences of their actions (and life in general) will help them build resilience and capacity. Here's how.
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Oct 7, 2024 • 17min
Episode 299: Everyone Loves a Non-Anxious Presence - Chapters 10-14
If you want to calm down, grow up and live your best life, this audio version of the book can help.
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Sep 30, 2024 • 15min
Episode 298: Everyone Loves a Non-Anxious Presence - Chapters 5-9
If you want to calm down, grow up and live your best life, this audio version of the book can help.
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