Anne de Kerckhove is Chair of Eagle Eye Solutions, and SID & Committee Chair at 888 Holdings and Blackbird plc. Tune in to hear her thoughts on: How have your exec successes at SAAS scale-ups informed your non-exec work? (2:23) What are the key metrics boards need to focus on? (3:54) How much detail should boards ask for? (5:44) What do boards need to focus on for acquisitions? (6:49) Why do people underestimate how long mergers take? (8:33) What do you wish you’d known when you started international expansion? (9:20) What are the common mistakes organisations make with data? (11:18) Do you want to see first-hand data? (12:58) What are your key lessons from nomination committees? (14:22) Who owns the nominations process? (16:58) What have you learnt about asking board members to step down? (19:44) What’s best practice for job specs for board positions? (24:27) What training do you do for your boards? (27:04) Where have you added the most value as a SID? (28:35) How do you approach an underperforming Chair? (31:58) What advice do you have for those at the start of their board careers? (34:03)  How can you differentiate yourself as a board candidate? (36:33) And ⚡The Lightning Round ⚡(38:13) Host: Oliver CummingsProducer: Will Felton Music: Kate Mac Audio: Nick Kold Email: podcast@nurole.com Web: https://www.nurole.com/nurole-podcast-enter-the-boardroom

Lord Charles Allen, Baron Allen of Kensington, CBE, is Chair of Moelis & Co, Balfour Beatty Plc, Global Media & Entertainment Group, and The Invictus Games. Listen to his conversation with Nurole CEO Oliver Cummings to hear his thoughts on: As a CEO and NED, what have you learnt from your Chairs which you now replicate as a Chair? (2:26) What are the bad Chair examples you’ve learnt from? (5:39) What have been your most challenging experiences hiring and firing the CEO? (8:04) How do you evaluate incumbent CEOs? (10:07) What role do your NEDs play in the CEO evaluation? (12:10) What are the most effective ways of developing under-performing CEOs? (13:31) Have you ever considered stepping into the Exec Chair role? (17:29) As a Chair, are you still too slow to fire people? (20:19) What have you learned about assessing prospective CEOs? (21:28) What have been your biggest mistakes with CEO succession? (22:36) How do you do due diligence for prospective Chair roles? (24:32) How does your due diligence differ if your prospective Chief Exec is a charismatic Founder-CEO? (26:38) Is there a right time to become a Chair? (27:40)⚡The Lightning Round ⚡(28:37) And audience Q&A: first-time NEDs, challenging dynamics, different styles, ESG, regrets, skin in the game & compensation (34:08)Host: Oliver CummingsProducer: Will Felton Music: Kate Mac Audio: Nick Kold Email: podcast@nurole.com Web: https://www.nurole.com/nurole-podcast-enter-the-boardroom

John Maltby is Chair of Allica Bank, Max Nicholas Renewables, and The West Brom Building Society and NED at Nordea. Listen to his conversation with Nurole CEO Oliver Cummings to hear his responses to: Can you talk through your transition from CEO to Chair? (2:07) What bad Chair experiences did you learn from? (4:47) What did you do to prepare for the role? (8:54) Do Chairs need prior experience in their firm’s sector? (11:13)  Why should firms not go for Chairs who have done exactly what they’re looking for before? (14:11) What are the essential things organisations need to look for when hiring Chairs? (16:21) How can you stand out as a Chair candidate? (18:54) Do you have a framework for assessing Chairs? (21:21) How do you think about board tenure? (25:10) How do you think about risk? (28:50) And ⚡The Lightning Round ⚡(35:48) Host: Oliver CummingsProducer: Will Felton Music: Kate Mac Audio: Nick Kold Email: podcast@nurole.com Web: https://www.nurole.com/nurole-podcast-enter-the-boardroom

Dawn Marriott is a partner at HG, a private equity firm, where she Chairs two portfolio companies. A serial PE Chair, Dawn is also a board member at Geomatikk and Aztecs, where she was formerly CEO. Tune in to Dawn’s conversation with Nurole CEO Oliver Cummings to hear her answers to: What’s the role of a Scale-Up Board? (2:21) As a Chair, do you have a particular methodology to draw value out of board members? (4:23) Practically, how do you assess the contributions of each board member? (6:20) How do you think about new board members versus external consultants when you need specific functional expertise? (9:38) What is the different value of independent and investor directors? (12:28) How do you think about chairing versus executive chairing? (19:16) Do you have a framework for thinking about where and how you amplify CEO performance to best effect? (21:53) How do you figure out where you can add most value to CEOs need? (24:49) How do you assess both prospective and incumbent CEOs? (26:39) Have you spotted any patterns in CEOs who don’t make the cut? (29:50) How do you think about board composition and archetypes? (34:15) Do you consider the balance of personality types on your boards? (37:19) And ⚡The Lightning Round ⚡(39:21)  Host: Oliver CummingsProducer: Will Felton Music: Kate Mac Audio: Nick Kold Email: podcast@nurole.com Web: https://www.nurole.com/nurole-podcast-enter-the-boardroom

Alex Denny is Committee Chair at the Association of Investment Companies and Trustee at the Nautical Archeology Society. He is a former Managing Director at Pantheon Ventures and Head of Investment Trusts at Fidelity International. Tune in to his conversation with Nurole CEO Oliver Cummings to hear his answers to: Can you give us an overview of the investment trust sector and its appeal for board members? (2:06) What are the hallmarks of the best and worst investment trust boards you’ve seen? (5:32) How many board members are brave enough to split with eponymous fund managers? (7:56) How can investment trust boards hold their managers to account? (11:09) What do you see the best investment trust boards doing around strategy? (19:08) How are the best boards addressing discounts? (26:41) How have you built your plural career in investment trusts? (30:25) How have your non-exec roles influenced your executive career? (33:56) And ⚡The Lightning Round ⚡(37:05)  Host: Oliver CummingsProducer: Will Felton Music: Kate Mac Audio: Nick Kold Email: podcast@nurole.com Web: https://www.nurole.com/nurole-podcast-enter-the-boardroom

Baroness Morrissey is former/Chair of Altum Group, Fidelis Insurance Group, Investment Industry Diversity Project, AJ Bell and The Investment Association. In this conversation with Nurole CEO, Oliver Cummings, she answers: Did you see the fee issues at St James’s Place coming? (1:42) How can board members challenge the status quo successfully? (5:52) How do you decide when to stand down and when to dig in? (12:00) What do you know now which you wish you’d known at the beginning of your non-exec career? (13:36) As a board member, how do you build honest and trusting relationships with colleagues? (15:28) What are your most effective board rituals as a Chair? (18:07) How do you formulate strategy with management? (25:19) How can Chairs be more inclusive? (29:25) What is the board’s role in supporting working parents? (31:04) And ⚡The Lightning Round ⚡(39:54) Host: Oliver CummingsProducer: Will Felton Music: Kate Mac Audio: Nick Kold Email: podcast@nurole.com Web: https://www.nurole.com/nurole-podcast-enter-the-boardroom

Alex Edmans, a finance professor, discusses the impact of diversity on corporate culture and performance, challenges in measuring diversity, debunking myths about CEO incentives, and biases in decision-making. He emphasizes the importance of overcoming biases for effective board decisions and advocates for blending individual experiences with research data for better board performance.

Former Mi6 Chief, Sir Richard Dearlove, shares insights on receiving accurate information from execs, lessons from AIG's implosion, managing public opinion, encouraging risk-taking, crisis management, and balancing expertise with common sense in the boardroom

Stuart Roden is Chair / former Chair of Lansdowne Partners, Hetz Ventures, Lewis Advisors, Tresidor, the Design Museum and Unlocking Potential, NED at LSE and Trustee at the National Gallery and Centre for Social Justice. In this conversation with Nurole CEO, Oliver Cummings, Stuart covers:  When you were an investor, did the quality of the board come into your investment evaluation? (1:34) Do boards justify their costs? (4:48) Do you think the board is more about governance than value creation? (8:15) Where and why have you made mistakes, hiring the CEO? (12:38) How do you build the best relationship with your CEO? (19:39) Practically, as a Chair, how do you make sure you are discussing what you need to with your CEO? (24:01) How do investors add value as board members? (25:47) How do you think about capital allocation and return on resources in the boardroom? (28:53) And ⚡The Lightning Round ⚡(33:04) Host: Oliver CummingsProducer: Will Felton Music: Kate Mac Audio: Nick Kold Email: podcast@nurole.com Web: https://www.nurole.com/nurole-podcast-enter-the-boardroom

Baroness Dambisa Moyo is a current board member of Chevron and Conde Nast, investment committee member of the Oxford University Endowment, and co-principal of Versaca Investments. Join her and Nurole CEO Oliver Cummings in a conversation which covers: Which of your boardroom experiences have been the most challenging? (1:44) How do the best boards deal with uncertainty and risk? (4:31): How do you think about the Risk Committee? (12:43) What do you know now which you wish you’d known when you first entered the boardroom? (14:32) How aligned are board members on the role of the board? (16:28) What have you learnt about adding value across strategy, CEO succession and culture, which might not be intuitive to an experienced executive? (20:02) How can people from non-conventional backgrounds best position themselves for board roles? (22:06) Should boards have strategy and audit sub-committees? (24:57) What is your dual-tracked approach to strategy? (29:35) You once had four CEOs in six years - what did you learn? (34:13)  What is the remit of ethics committees? (36:48) And ⚡The Lightning Round ⚡ (40:43)Host: Oliver CummingsProducer: Will Felton Music: Kate Mac Audio: Nick Kold Email: podcast@nurole.com Web: https://www.nurole.com/nurole-podcast-enter-the-boardroom