

The Book Case
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Are you stuck in a reading rut? The Book Case makes the case for books outside of your usual genre. Wander the aisles of your local bookstore with Kate and Charlie Gibson and meet fascinating characters who will open your appetite to new categories while deepening your hunger for books. This weekly series will journey cover to cover through the literary world, featuring interviews with best-selling authors, tastemakers, and independent bookstore owners. New episodes post every Thursday.
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Aug 29, 2024 • 33min
Dr. Fei-Fei Li Explains AI
Dr. Fei-Fei Li is one of the most important scientists of our time. Her book, The Worlds I See, chronicles her pioneering efforts in Artificial Intelligence. Does AI scare you? Us too. But read this book and listen to this episode. The book is not just the compelling story of Dr. Li herself, who immigrated as a girl speaking no English but who understands physics like Michael Jordan plays basketball. She is now a worldwide authority on AI and its development. Second, if you are scared of AI, this book explains it and the issues surrounding it both with beauty and with hope. She believes AI is the next step in our evolution, but that it MUST be rooted in humanity. What does that mean? Tune in and find out.Books mentioned in this week's episode:
The Worlds I See: Curiosity, Exploration, and Discovery at the Dawn of AI by Dr. Fei-Fei Li
Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone by J.K. Rowling
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Aug 22, 2024 • 35min
Jodi Picoult Envisions A Woman Behind Shakespeare's Work
Have you ever heard the rumor that Shakespeare didn’t write his own plays? So had we, but By Any Other Name, the new novel by Jodi Picoult, may make the best case for it we have ever read. This novel puts forth a theory that Emilia Bassano wrote at least some of them, and she is an unforgettable character. This book succeeds on so many levels — a polemic, a great piece of feminist AND historical fiction, AND it’s a page turner. This is the book Jodi says she was born to write…and we think it’s her best to date.Books mentioned in this week's episode:
By Any Other Name by Jodi Picoult
Nineteen Minutes by Jodi Picoult
My Sister’s Keeper by Jodi Picoult
Mermaid by Jodi Picoult
Second Glance by Jodi Picoult
Small Great Things by Jodi Picoult
The Pact by Jodi Picoult
The Book of Two Ways by Jodi Picoult
House Rules by Jodi Picoult
Mad Honey by Jodi Picoult and Jennifer Finney Boylan
Where There’s Smoke by Jodi Picoult
Picture Perfect by Jodi Picoult
Perfect Match by Jodi Picoult
A Spark of Light by Jodi Picoult
The Storyteller by Jodi Picoult
Wish You Were Here by Jodi Picoult
Leaving Time by Jodi Picoult
Handle with Care by Jodi Picoult
Change of Heart by Jodi Picoult
Salem Falls by Jodi Picoult
Vanishing Acts by Jodi Picoult
Lone Wolf by Jodi Picoult
Topdog/Underdog by Suzan-Lori Parks
Knife: Meditations After an Attempted Murder by Salman Rushdie
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Aug 15, 2024 • 38min
Emily Nussbaum Explains Why We Should Take Reality TV Seriously
Love it or hate it, the genre of “reality tv” has now shaped American history. That means no matter how you feel about it, you cannot ignore it. Enter Cue the Sun!, the most comprehensive, thoughtful and well written book about the history and development of the genre we have come across. We talk to the book’s author, Emily Nussbaum about how the genre has come to take up so much space in American pop culture and what that means for our country as a whole. We also talk to Ferguson Books' owner Dane Ferguson about how his shop serves rural communities in the upper midwest. You don’t want to miss it.Books mentioned in this week's episode:
Cue the Sun!: The Invention of Reality TV by Emily Nussbaum
I Like to Watch: Arguing My Way Through the TV Revolution by Emily Nussbaum
Black Bear Lake by Leslie Liautaud
Thief River Falls by Brian Freeman
Alter Ego by Brian Freeman
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Aug 8, 2024 • 33min
Evan Friss Traces the History of American Bookstores
Today we talk about a book that seems tailor-made to our show, given our conversations with independent booksellers. The Bookshop: A History of the American Bookstore is a book that, if you are a book lovers like we are, will give you the same warm, smiling feeling you get when you walk into your favorite bookstore. And we talk to Toby Cox, the owner of Three Lives & Company, one of Evan’s favorites.Books mentioned in this week's episode:The Bookshop: A History of the American Bookstore by Evan FrissOn Bicycles: A 200-Year History of Cycling in New York City by Evan FrissThe Cycling City: Bicycles and Urban America in the 1890s by Evan FrissAll Fours by Miranda JulyThe Heart in Winter by Kevin BarryWaterlogged: The Serious Problem of Overhydration in Endurance Sports by Tim Noakes Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Aug 1, 2024 • 32min
Whoopi Goldberg Hails Her First Loves
When you say the name Whoopi Goldberg it’s hard not to smile. The name is filled with heart, laughter, and a joyous sense of fun, just like the woman herself. Born Caryn Johnson, her memoir Bits and Pieces is a love letter to her mother and brother, the two people who molded her into the hilarious, honest and morally centered person she is today. She has also written a graphic novel about menopause (sure, why not?) called The Change, which is a declaration that women of a certain age (and color) can don a cape and fight bad guys with hot flashes, if they so choose. Join us for a laugh and some terrific storytelling.Books mentioned in this week's episode:
Bits and Pieces: My Mother, My Brother, and Me by Whoopi Goldberg
The Change: A Graphic Novel by Whoopi Goldberg, Jaime Paglia and Sunkanmi Akinboye
Is It Just Me?: Or Is It Nuts Out There? By Whoopi Goldberg
If Someone Says "You Complete Me,” RUN!: Whoopi’s Big Book of Relationships by Whoopi Goldberg
Peter Pan by J.M. Barrie
The Godfather by Mario Puzo
The Adventures of Captain Underpants by Dav Pilkey
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Jul 25, 2024 • 28min
Ben Shattuck's Short Stories Span Time and History
Ben Shattuck is a renaissance man of sorts, which might be why we dedicated the whole episode to him. He wrote The History of Sound, a thought provoking and beautiful collection of short stories that spans the Eastern Seaboard as well as eons of time. Then there's his general store, which, on top of being the oldest general store in the country also boasts an independent bookstore curated by, you guessed it, Ben Shattuck. Join us.Books mentioned in this week’s episode:
The History of Sound: Stories by Ben Shattuck
Six Walks: In the Footsteps of Henry David Thoreau by Ben Shattuck
Brokeback Mountain by Annie Proulx
The Heart in Winter by Kevin Barry
This Is Happiness by Niall Williams
Pilgrim at Tinker Creek by Annie Dillard
Ship Fever by Andrea Barrett
A Prayer for Owen Meany by John Irving
The Wager: A Tale of Shipwreck, Mutiny and Murder by David Grann
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Jul 18, 2024 • 37min
Hope Jahren Expands on Mark Twain
Every so often, a new author tackles the work of expanding a classic novel to expand its reach. Even more rarely, they succeed beautifully. This week’s book, Adventures of Mary Jane is just such a rare gem. Mary Jane's author, Hope Jahren, is a scientist (a geochemist, no less) who decided to write the story of Mary Jane, a character that haunted her from the pages of Twain’s The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn her entire life. It is both a magical adventure story and an authentic and well written coming of age drama. This week’s bookstore is Where the Sidewalk Ends, which is also run by two generations in tandem. We talk to them about how they do it…and we commiserate on working with daughters and parents. Join us.Books mentioned in this week's episode:
Adventures of Mary Jane by Hope Jahren
Lab Girl by Hope Jahren
The Story of More: How We Got to Climate Change and Where to Go from Here by Hope Jahren
The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn by Mark Twain
The Adventures of Tom Sawyer by Mark Twain
Uncle Tom’s Cabin by Harriet Beecher Stowe
Les Misérables by Victor Hugo
Tale of Two Cities by Charles Dickens
A Man without a Country by Kurt Vonnegut
Where the Sidewalk Ends by Shel Silverstein
Good Night, Irene by Luis Alberto Urrea
Elephant Company: The Inspiring Story of an Unlikely Hero and the Animals that Helped him Save Lives in World War II by Vicki Constantine Croke
The Lost Boy of Santa Chionia by Juliet Grames-RELEASES 7/23/2024
More or Less Maddy by Lisa Genova-RELEASES 1/14/2025
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Jul 11, 2024 • 33min
J. Ryan Stradal Tackles His Next Novel
Our third check in with J. Ryan Stradal, author extraordinaire and our writer in residence. He has begun to write in earnest, and has lots to tell us about his progress. We are loving these conversations with J., and every time we learn something new. For our bookstore we talk to Next Chapter Booksellers in St. Paul, J. Ryan's homeland. Join us.Books mentioned in this week's episode:
Saturday Night at the Lakeside Supper Club by J. Ryan Stradal
The Lager Queen of Minnesota by J. Ryan Stradal
Kitchens of the Great Midwest by J. Ryan Stradal
Perfume and Pain by Anna Dorn
For The Culture: Phenomenal Black Women and Femmes in Food: Interviews, Inspiration, and Recipes by Klancy Miller
The Friday Afternoon Club: A Family Memoir by Griffin Dunne
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Jul 4, 2024 • 33min
Rachel Khong Asks, 'Who Is A Real American?'
The Magician’s Hat by Malcolm MitchellThis week we talk to Rachel Khong. Her new novel, Real Americans, asks probing questions about the reality of America’s “melting pot” mythology, and is also being a mysterious and compulsively readable family saga. We also talk to Judy Newman, Chief Impact Officer at Scholastic, in our continuing discussions on the importance of getting children to read. We hope you will join us.
Books mentioned in this week's podcast
Goodbye, Vitamin by Rachel Khong
Real Americans by Rachel Khong
Perfecto Pet Show by Judy Newman
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Jun 27, 2024 • 34min
Joseph Kanon Conjures WWII Shanghai
Do you like a good spy novel? Do you love le Carré and Graham Greene? Then we hope, with great sincerity, that you are reading the work of Joseph Kanon. His latest, Shanghai, centers around the city’s lesser known freewheeling WWII history and some of the lawless people who escaped the war to be there. Tune in to find out why he is fascinated by spy novels, and what he calls “spy adjacent novels”, that capture such rich moments in history.Books mentioned in this week's episode:
Shanghai by Joseph Kanon
The Good German by Joseph Kanon
Istanbul Passage by Joseph Kanon
Los Alamos by Joseph Kanon
The Prodigal Spy by Joseph Kanon
The Berlin Exchange by Joseph Kanon
Leaving Berlin by Joseph Kanon
Defectors by Joseph Kanon
Alibi by Joseph Kanon
The Accomplice by Joseph Kanon
The Peacock and the Sparrow by I.S. Barry
Winter Work by Dan Fesperman
The Cover Wife by Dan Fesperman
Safe Houses by Dan Fesperman
The Letter Writer by Dan Fesperman
Unmanned by Dan Fesperman
The Double Game by Dan Fesperman
Layover in Dubai by Dan Fesperman
The Arms Maker of Berlin by Dan Fesperman
The Prisoner of Guantanamo by Dan Fesperman
The Warlord's Son by Dan Fesperman
The Small Boat of Great Sorrows by Dan Fesperman
Lie in the Dark by Dan Fesperman
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