
The Book Case
Are you stuck in a reading rut? The Book Case makes the case for books outside of your usual genre. Wander the aisles of your local bookstore with Kate and Charlie Gibson and meet fascinating characters who will open your appetite to new categories while deepening your hunger for books. This weekly series will journey cover to cover through the literary world, featuring interviews with best-selling authors, tastemakers, and independent bookstore owners. New episodes post every Thursday.
Latest episodes

Oct 6, 2022 • 45min
Amy Sarig King Stands Up To Censorship
We have expressed a desire to keep The Book Case non-political. But there is one issue we feel should not be a source of contention - and that is book banning and book challenges. We have been looking for a relatively safe way to approach the issue and think we’ve found it in a book by Amy Sarig King entitled Attack of the Black Rectangles. The "black rectangles" to which she refers are those black stripes that represent redactions of language. Amy writes for young people— target audience probably 11 to 16. But this book reads well for adults as well and addresses an important subject. It is a fictionalized account of an actual book redaction that her son discovered in a school assigned novel about the Holocaust. Amy argues, persuasively we feel, that young people don’t need this kind of ‘protection’ and that it’s a slippery slope from redactions to actual book bans. She has both a lovely book and a powerful argument.Afterwards we talk with Jonathan Friedman of PEN America who has written a thorough report about how the number of book challenges and bans are growing across the United States at an alarming rate.Books mentioned in the podcast:
Attack of the Black Rectangles by Amy Sarig King (A.S. King)
Me and Marvin Gardens By Amy Sarig King (A.S. King)
The Devil's Arithmetic by Jane Yolen
To Kill a Mockingbird by Harper Lee
Dig by Amy Sarig King (A. S. King)
Ask the Passengers by Amy Sarig King (A. S. King)
Reality Boy by Amy Sarig King (A. S. King)
Everybody Sees the Ants by Amy Sarig King (A. S. King)
God Bless You, Mr. Rosewater by Kurt Vonnegut Jr.
The Satanic Verses by Salman Rushdie
The Snowy Day by Ezra Jack Keats
Where the Wild Things Are by Maurice Sendak
Harold and the Purple Crayon by Crockett Johnson
Slaughterhouse-Five by Kurt Vonnegut Jr.
Breakfast of Champions by Kurt Vonnegut Jr.
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Sep 29, 2022 • 41min
Richard Osman Writes Mysteries You Can Sink Your Dentures Into
So you’re in your mid-50s, you’ve got a great career going as a television personality in Great Britain, so what might be enjoyable to do next? Why write a hugely successful series of mysteries of course. And that is what Richard Osman has done. His novel The Thursday Murder Club is about four bold septuagenarian friends who meet to discuss about unsolved crimes in their retirement village. The Man Who Died Twice and The Bullet That Missed are two riveting extensions of The Thursday Murder Club. Osman talks about casting the film adaptation of his novels and how his mother’s retirement village in England inspired his writing process. The independent bookstore this week is 27th Letter Books and we talk to Erin Pineda, the owner about their incredible story of survival.Books mentioned in the podcast:
The Bullet That Missed by Richard Osman
The Man Who Died Twice by Richard Osman
The Thursday Murder Club by Richard Osman
And Then There Were None by Agatha Christie
Mystic River by Dennis Lehane
One Good Turn by Kate Atkinson
I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings by Maya Angelou
Scorpionfish by Natalie Bakopoulos
Gag Reflex by Elle Nash
Parker Looks Up: An Extraordinary Moment by Parker Curry, Jessica Curry and Brittany Jackson
Crescenciana: An Art Book and Memoir by Crescenciana Tan + Kenneth Tan
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Sep 22, 2022 • 42min
Elizabeth Strout Hears her Characters' Voices
Elizabeth Strout is our guest this week, and our conversation couldn’t be more timely. First, her novel, Oh William! has just been short listed for the Booker Prize - perhaps the most prestigious award for a writer of literary fiction. And second, her latest novel in the Lucy Barton series has just been published - Lucy by the Sea. For those who love her writing, and we are among her greatest admirers, you know that Lucy by the Sea represents a continuation of the series that includes Oh William! The book allows us to see the chaos of the last years through Lucy's eyes, and it's a tumultuous, beautiful journey. The independent bookstore this week is Tattered Cover and we talk to Jeremy Patlen, their head buyer.Books mentioned in the podcast:
Amy and Isabelle by Elizabeth Strout
Olive Kitteridge by Elizabeth Strout
Olive, Again by Elizabeth Strout
Abide with Me by Elizabeth Strout
Lucy by the Sea by Elizabeth Strout
Oh William! By Elizabeth Strout
The Burgess Boys by Elizabeth Strout
My Name Is Lucy Barton by Elizabeth Strout
Anything Is Possible by Elizabeth Strout
This is Happiness by Niall Williams
The Collected Stories of William Trevor
War and Peace by Leo Tolstoy
Pigeon Feathers and Other Stories by John Updike
Hateship, Friendship, Courtship, Loveship, Marriage by Alice Munro
Woman of Light by Kali Fajardo-Anstine
Upgrade by Blake Crouch
Just Kids by Patti Smith
We are the Light by Matthew Quick
Less Is Lost by Andrew Sean Greer
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Sep 15, 2022 • 44min
Sue Miller Examines Marriage, Intimately
Sue Miller is one of America’s finest and most admired authors. From the time of her first published novel in 1986, (The Good Mother), to her most recent, (Monogamy), Sue has developed a legion of devoted readers. Her plots often involve major events, but her greatest skill is the intimate understanding she has of her characters. She knows their head and their heart, or maybe it is that they know hers. How she writes, how she develops those characters, and what they mean to her are all subjects of our conversation. Sue Miller is one of our finest practitioners of literary fiction. We feel honored to have her in The Book Case. This week, we also talk to the host of “Moms Don’t Have Time to Read," Zibby Owens. She invited us on her podcast, so we returned the invitation.Books mentioned in this podcast:
The Good Mother by Sue Miller
Family Pictures by Sue Miller
While I Was Gone by Sue Miller
Inventing the Abbotts and Other Stories by Sue Miller
Monogomy by Sue Miller
The Lake Shore Limited by Sue Miller
The Senator's Wife by Sue Miller
The Arsonist by Sue Miller
The Distinguished Guest by Sue Miller
The World Below by Sue Miller
The Story of My Father: A Memoir by Sue Miller
Lost in the Forest by Sue Miller
For Love by Sue Miller
Jane Eyre by Charlotte Brontë
In the Night Kitchen by Maurice Sendak
The Short Stories of Leo Tolstoy by Leo Tolstoy
Slow Motion: A Memoir of a Life Rescued by Tragedy by Dani Shapiro
Hourglass: Time, Memory, Marriage by Dani Shapiro
Inheritance: A Memoir of Genealogy, Paternity, and Love by Dani Shapiro
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Sep 8, 2022 • 38min
Nahid Shahalimi Gathers the Voices of Afghan Women
It was just a year ago that the U.S. withdrew its troops from Afghanistan. On that date, Nahid Shahalimi, an Afghan female writer living in Germany, realized that she needed to hurry to record the stories of prominent Afghan women who soon would try to escape their country, or stay and risk death. She did so, and compiled their stories in “We Are Still Here.” The world’s attention has turned to the crisis in Ukraine, but Afghanistan is still there and should not be forgotten, particularly the stories of women oppressed by the Taliban. This week, a conversation with Nahid Shahalimi, as she writes, “Listen to these women. See them. See their commitment to freedom and to their rights."Books mentioned in this podcast:
We are Still Here edited by Nahid Shahalimi
The Book of Life by Jidda Krishnamurti
The Handmaid's Tale by Margaret Atwood
A Land of Permanent Goodbyes by Atia Abawi
The Secret Sky: A Novel of Forbidden Love in Afghanistan by Atia Abawi
The Kite Runner by Khaled Hosseini
A Thousand Splendid Suns by Khaled Hosseini
And The Mountains Echoed by Khaled Hosseini
A House Without Windows by Nadia Hashimi
When the Moon is Low by Nadia Hashimi
Sparks Like Stars by Nadia Hashimi
One Half from the East by Nadia Hashimi
The Sky at Our Feet by Nadia Hashimi
The Pearl that Broke Its Shell by Nadia Hashimi
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Sep 1, 2022 • 37min
Stuart Gibbs Takes Kids on Wild Journeys
Stuart Gibbs is this week’s guest and begins what we intend to be a periodic look at children's’ literature, or in the parlance of the day, “kids’ books”. Stuart has five different series of kids’s books in print - all successful, each aimed at the middle grades. His latest Spy School book is just out. Kate and I (grown-up who like to believe) loved it, as did our 12-year-old grandson and nephew, Lang (but then Stuart is his favorite author). To be a successful author of kids’ books we believe you have to be a good writer as well as a bit of a kid yourself. Stuart checks both boxes.Books mentioned in the podcast:
Moon Base Alpha Series by Stuart Gibbs
Once Upon a Tim by Stuart Gibbs
Spy School Project X by Stuart Gibbs
Spy School Series by Stuart Gibbs
FunJungle Series by Stuart Gibbs
Charlie Thorne Series by Stuart Gibbs
The Last Musketeer Series by Stuart Gibbs
Poached by Stuart Gibbs
Encyclopedia Brown Series Donald J. Sobol
The Westing Game by Ellen Raskin
Bunnicula by James and Deborah Howe
Superfudge by Judy Blume
The Phantom Tollbooth Norton Juster
The BFG by Roald Dahl
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Aug 25, 2022 • 45min
David Koepp Writes Thrillers Differently These Days
Our author this week is David Koepp. You may not realize it, but you’ve been exposed to David’s writing. Probably many times. Did you see the first two Jurassic Park movies? Spider-Man? Indiana Jones? Mission Impossible? David has worked on the screenplays of some of the most successful movies ever. Indeed, movies he has written have sold almost $2.5 billion in tickets. He also writes novels. “Aurora” is his latest. It’s an enjoyable, and even thought-provoking read. Why write novels when you’re so successful with screen plays? How do the disciplines differ? Which is more rewarding? All good questions. We ask them.Our independent bookstore this week is Interabang Books in Dallas, Texas.Books Mentioned in the Podcast:
Cold Storage by David Koepp
Aurora by David Koepp
The Andromeda Strain by Michael Crichton
The Sirens of Titan by Kurt Vonnegut Jr.
That’s Good! That’s Bad! by Margery Cuyler
Billy Lynn’s Long Halftime Walk by Ben Fountain
A Queen to the Rescue: The Story of Henrietta Szold, Founder of Hadassah by Nancy Churnin
A Girl Named Carrie: The Visionary Who Created Neiman Marcus and Set the Standard for Fashion by Jerrie Marcus Smith
River of the Gods: Genius, Courage, and Betrayal in the Search for the Source of the Nile by Candice Millard
Remarkably Bright Creatures by Shelby Van Pelt
Lessons in Chemistry by Bonnie Garmus
Trust by Hernan Diaz
The Secret Garden by Frances Hodgson Burnett
Artemis Fowl series by Eoin Colfer
The Harry Potter Series by J.K. Rowling
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Aug 18, 2022 • 47min
Sidik Fofana Steps Out of the Classroom
Sidik Fofana has written “Stories from the Tenants Downstairs.” This is his first novel and very much worth a reader’s time. His book is eight interrelated short stories written by residents of a fictional tenement in New York City in a neighborhood going through gentrification. You root for his characters. You identify with their aspirations. But for each of them it is so tough to realize their dreams. For each of them it is so tough to negotiate the realities of every day life. And Sidik knows from whence he writes—for years he has been a New York City public school teacher. Many of his stories, he tells us, come from his kids. “Stories from the Tenants Downstairs” is an excellent book. One small warning—a couple of the stories are written with the voice of the street, but were that not the case, it would not be as authentic. And every inch of this book is authentic. Our independent book store this week is Women and Children First in Chicago—we talk with one of its owners, Lynn Mooney.Books mentioned in the podcast:
Stories from the Tenants Downstairs by Sidik Fafana
The Brief Wondrous Life of Oscar Wao by Junot Díaz
Birds of America by Lorrie Moore
The Broken Earth Trilogy N.K. Jemisin
“Harlem” by Langston Hughes from The Collected Works of Langston Hughes
A Farewell to Arms by Ernest Hemingway
The Odyssey by Homer
A Separate Peace by John Knowles
Native Son by Richard Wright
Trombone Shorty by Troy “Trombone Shorty” Andrews
Easy Beauty by Chloé Cooper Johnson
Oh William! By Elizabeth Strout
Set Boundaries, Find Peace: A Guide to Reclaiming Yourself by Nedra Glover Tawwab
Four Thousand Weeks: Time Management for Mortals by Oliver Burkeman
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Aug 11, 2022 • 44min
Jenny Lawson is Broken (In the Best Possible Way)
Jenny Lawson is a funny writer, but that label doesn’t tell the whole story. In her three books, her "parenthetical ramblings" are hilarious glimpses into her razor sharp wit that keep you laughing long after you put the book down. At the same time, Jenny Lawson deals with deep depression that has her also writing about her struggles - sometimes just to stay alive. She writes of the “monster” that at times takes over her mind. That mind works in wonderous ways - not always helpful to her own well being - but wonderous just the same. Our bookstore this week? Well that’s Jenny Lawson’s too. We talk to Elizabeth Jordon, the general manager of Jenny Lawson’s bookstore, Nowhere Bookshop in San Antonio.Books mentioned in the podcast:Broken (in the Best Possible Way) by Jenny LawsonFuriously Happy by Jenny LawsonLet's Pretend This Never Happened by Jenny LawsonTwice 22 by Ray BradburyPet Sematary by Stephen KingHurricane Girl by Marcy DermanskyFlorida Woman by Deb RogersHer Body and Other Parties by Carmen Maria MachadoThere, There by Tommy OrangeA Visitation of Spirits by Randall KenanStories From the Tenants Downstairs by Sidik FofanaThe Hakawati by Rabih Alameddine Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Aug 4, 2022 • 37min
Julia Glass Reimagines the Future
Julia Glass burst on the writing scene in 2002 when her first novel, “Three Junes”, won the National Book Award for fiction. Her newest novel “Vigil Harbor” plots current problems such as worldwide virus infections, climate change and increasing political violence as they might increase over the next twelve years, and charts their impact on a small town in coastal Massachusetts. Set in 2034, the novel includes a touch of mystery and the supernatural, and is a most enjoyable read from almost any perspective. On the show, Julia speaks about the ways climate change has shaped the novel, her experience writing with a supernatural twist for the first time, and how the book changed with the Covid-19 pandemic started. Our independent book store for this podcast is Keplers, in Menlo Park, California. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices