

EOS for a Better Business, Better Life
EOS Implementers Debra Chantry-Taylor, Adam Harris, business owners and experts!
EOS, The Entrepreneurial Operating System, can truly change your life by helping you live a better life by creating a better business.
Are you doing what you love, with people you love, making a huge difference, being compensated appropriately, with time to pursue other passions?
As a Certified EOS Implementer, my passion is helping Entrepreneurs & their leadership teams lead a better life through Traction.
Join me on the podcast as I chat to those who have done this or experts who can help you...
Learn from those who have built a life they truly love, through creating a better business.
Are you doing what you love, with people you love, making a huge difference, being compensated appropriately, with time to pursue other passions?
As a Certified EOS Implementer, my passion is helping Entrepreneurs & their leadership teams lead a better life through Traction.
Join me on the podcast as I chat to those who have done this or experts who can help you...
Learn from those who have built a life they truly love, through creating a better business.
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May 26, 2025 • 8min
Less But Obsess: Why EOS Rocks Beat OKRs | Debra Chantry-Taylor | Ep 224
Welcome to Better Business, Better Life. In this episode, host Debra Chantry-Taylor breaks down why EOS Rocks are a better fit than OKRs for entrepreneurial and fast-growing businesses. She discusses how OKRs often lead to confusion, scattered focus, and poor follow-through while EOS Rocks bring clarity, accountability, and weekly progress. With practical tips on setting quarterly priorities, assigning clear ownership, and using tools like the Accountability Chart, Scorecard, and Level 10 Meetings, Debra shows how to build a simple, effective execution system that actually works. If you're feeling stretched too thin by endless objectives, this episode will show you how to simplify, refocus, and gain real traction. CONNECT WITH DEBRA: ___________________________________________ ►Debra Chantry-Taylor is a Certified EOS Implementer | Entrepreneurial Leadership & Business Coach | Business Owner ►Connect with Debra: debra@businessaction.co.nz ►See how she can help you: https://businessaction.co.nz/ ____________________________________________ Chapters: 00:26 - Introduction to EOS Rocks vs. OKRs 01:07 - Defining OKRs and EOS Rocks 01:58 - Challenges with OKRs in Entrepreneurial Businesses 03:19 - The Power of EOS Rocks and Accountability 05:35 - Real-Life Examples of EOS Rocks in Action 07:08 - Conclusion and Call to Action

May 19, 2025 • 32min
Passing the Family Business Torch with EOS | Sara B. Stern | Ep 223
Welcome back to another episode of Better Business, Better Life. Host Debra Chantry-Taylor is joined once again by family business expert, Sara B. Stern to tackle one of the most critical and often avoided topics of family businesses: succession planning. On this second part of the family business special, they discuss why successful transitions take time (often up to eight years), how to start the conversation early, and why clearly separating family, ownership, and business roles is key. Sara also shares practical tools like EOS and the Three-Circle Model to help families define legacy, align on goals, and make confident decisions about the future. If you're thinking about handing over the reins or just want to set your business up for long-term success, this episode is packed with actionable advice and real-life insights. CONNECT WITH DEBRA: ___________________________________________ ►Debra Chantry-Taylor is a Certified EOS Implementer | Entrepreneurial Leadership & Business Coach | Business Owner ►Connect with Debra: debra@businessaction.co.nz ►See how she can help you: https://businessaction.co.nz/ ____________________________________________ GUEST’S DETAIL: ► Website Link ► Grab a copy of Start Here: A Guide for Family Business Succession and ► Grab a copy of Married to the Family Business ► Sara B. Stern - LinkedIn Chapters: 00:32 - Introduction 02:15 - Sara B. Stern's Background and Expertise 04:23 - Challenges in Family Business Succession Planning 07:25 - Importance of Defining Legacy and Ownership Philosophy 09:29 - Operating the Business Professionally 21:38 - Addressing Conflicts and Seeking Professional Help 22:24 - Real-Life Examples and Practical Advice 26:12 - Final Tips and Tools for Succession Planning 31:55 - Conclusion and Future Plans

May 12, 2025 • 34min
EOS Meets the Three-Circle Model of Family Business | Sara B. Stern | Ep 222
In this episode of Better Business, Better Life, host Debra Chantry-Taylor is joined by Sara B. Stern, an EOS implementer and family business expert, for part one of a powerful two-part series on navigating the complex intersection of family dynamics and business strategy. Together, they explore the Harvard three-circle family business model and how to apply EOS tools to create clarity, define roles, and manage conflict in family-run businesses. Sara shares practical insights on fairness across family, business, and ownership circles, the importance of clearly defined roles like Visionary and Integrator, and why conflict can be healthy if handled in the right context. If you're navigating blurred roles, tension, or unclear expectations on leading a multi-generational company or just beginning succession planning, this episode offers essential tools for building a stronger business and healthier family relationships. CONNECT WITH DEBRA: ___________________________________________ ►Debra Chantry-Taylor is a Certified EOS Implementer | Entrepreneurial Leadership & Business Coach | Business Owner ►Connect with Debra: debra@businessaction.co.nz ►See how she can help you: https://businessaction.co.nz/ ____________________________________________ GUEST’S DETAIL: ► Website Link ► Grab a Copy of Start Here: A Guide for Family Business Succession and Married to the Family Business ► Sara B. Stern - LinkedIn Chapters: 00:32 - Introduction 02:12 - Balancing Family Dynamics and Business Strategy 03:38 - Challenges in Family Business Dynamics 05:18 - Defining Fairness in Family Business 08:21 - Role Assignment and Succession Planning 11:14 - The Importance of the Owner's Box 20:54 - Handling Conflict in Family Businesses 23:10 - Practical Tips for Family Business Owners 32:21 - Recommended Books for Family Business Owners

May 5, 2025 • 10min
The Hidden Cost of Wearing Too Many Hats: The EOS Fix | Debra Chantry-Taylor | Ep 221
Welcome to Better Business, Better Life. In this episode, host Debra Chantry-Taylor tackles a common challenge in family businesses and professional services firms: too many people wearing too many hats. She explains how too many hats, like founders micromanaging or family members in the wrong roles, can slow growth and drain energy. Debra also introduces powerful tools like the EOS Accountability Chart, GWC framework, and RACI model with an S to bring structure, clarity, and accountability back into the business.If your team is stretched thin or unsure who’s doing what, this episode will help you untangle the mess and move forward with confidence. Tune in to learn how structure leads to confidence, where confidence drives results. CONNECT WITH DEBRA: ___________________________________________ ►Debra Chantry-Taylor is a Certified EOS Implementer | Entrepreneurial Leadership & Business Coach | Business Owner ►Connect with Debra: debra@businessaction.co.nz ►See how she can help you: https://businessaction.co.nz/ ____________________________________________ Chapters: 00:08 - Problem of Too Many Hats in Family Businesses 01:46 - Complexity in Family Businesses 02:18 - Using the EOS Accountability Chart 04:19 - Example of a Multi-Generational Family Business 04:34 - RACI Tool with an S for Complex Businesses 06:46 - Cost of Inaction in Family Businesses 08:55 - Tough Conversations and Emotional Triggers 09:42 - Conclusion

Apr 28, 2025 • 38min
Smart Money Moves | Michelle Taylor | Ep 220
In this episode of Better Business, Better Life, host Debra Chantry-Taylor is joined by guest, Michelle Taylor, a Financial Advisor from Gambin Financial Group to talk about the critical role financial management plays in business success. Michelle shares her personal journey from surviving leukaemia to building a career helping entrepreneurs take control of their finances. Together, they unpack common financial mistakes, the power of having a personal board of directors, and strategies to avoid "shiny object syndrome." She also introduces her Women in Wealth community, designed to empower women to take control of their financial futures. If you want to future-proof your business and personal finances, this episode is packed with practical advice and inspiration. Tune in to explore essential tips for creating lasting financial strength. CONNECT WITH DEBRA: ___________________________________________ ►Debra Chantry-Taylor is a Certified EOS Implementer | Entrepreneurial Leadership & Business Coach | Business Owner ►Connect with Debra: debra@businessaction.co.nz ►See how she can help you: https://businessaction.co.nz/ ____________________________________________ GUEST’S DETAIL: ► Gambin Financial Group Website ► Women in Wealth Community ► Michelle Taylor - LinkedIn Chapters: 00:25 - Introduction 03:38 - Michelle's Personal Journey and Financial Lessons 07:40 - Entrepreneurial Challenges and Financial Management 25:09 - Building a Personal Board of Directors 30:27 - Financial Tips for Entrepreneurs 36:02 - Michelle's Women in Wealth Program

Apr 21, 2025 • 23min
Keeping Family Businesses on Track with EOS | Debra Chantry-Taylor | Ep 219
Welcome to Better Business, Better Life. In this episode, Host Debra Chantry-Taylor dives into how the Entrepreneurial Operating System (EOS) can help fast-growing family businesses stay focused, aligned, and in control. Using the Harvard Three-Circle model and her own F1 "pit stop" analogy, Debra explains how EOS tools like the Accountability Chart, Scorecard, Rocks, and Level 10 Meetings bring clarity, focus, and alignment to even the most complex family dynamics. If your family business is scaling quickly, this episode will show you how to create structure, improve communication, and keep your business and relationships on track. Tune in to learn how EOS can help you build a business that thrives without losing control. CONNECT WITH DEBRA: ___________________________________________ ►Debra Chantry-Taylor is a Certified EOS Implementer | Entrepreneurial Leadership & Business Coach | Business Owner ►Connect with Debra: debra@businessaction.co.nz ►See how she can help you: https://businessaction.co.nz/ ____________________________________________ Chapters: 00:07 - Introduction 00:50 - EOS for Family Businesses 02:27 - Challenges of Fast Growth in Family Businesses 03:07 - EOS as a Tool for Family Businesses 04:20 - Components of an EOS Pit Stop 06:55 - Foundational Tools in EOS 08:04 - Unique Challenges in Family Businesses 09:43 - The Vision, Traction, Organiser (V/TO) Process 13:49 - Road Map for Family Businesses19:41 - Recap and Final Thoughts

Apr 15, 2025 • 41min
How EOS Transformed a Franchise Empire | Landon Eckles | Ep 218
In another episode of Better Business, Better Life, host Debra Chantry-Taylor chats with Landon Eckles, co-founder of Clean Juice and now an EOS implementer, about how he and his wife grew their business from a single idea into a 100-store franchise, then found clarity through EOS. Landon shares how he and his wife scaled Clean Juice to 100 stores in just five years and the growing pains that came with it. He reveals how discovering EOS transformed their leadership, decision-making, and meetings, giving their business the structure it needed to thrive through COVID-19 and beyond. Now, as an EOS implementer, Landon is passionate about helping other business owners find the same freedom through simple, effective systems. Tune in to hear how EOS helped one couple build, grow, and exit on their terms and how it might help you do the same. CONNECT WITH DEBRA: ___________________________________________ ►Debra Chantry-Taylor is a Certified EOS Implementer | Entrepreneurial Leadership & Business Coach | Business Owner ►Connect with Debra: debra@businessaction.co.nz ►See how she can help you: https://businessaction.co.nz/ ____________________________________________ GUEST’S DETAIL: ► Landon Eckles Website ► Landon Eckles - EOS Implementer ► Landon Eckles - LinkedIn Chapters: 00:24 - Introduction and Guest Background 03:16 - Challenges and Solutions in Business Growth 11:27 - Implementing EOS and Its Impact 15:57 - Growth Pains and Overcoming Challenges 23:37 - Transition to EOS Implementation 36:08 - Personal Reflections and Advice 38:43 - Conclusion and Future Plans

Apr 7, 2025 • 43min
From Laundry Loads to Scaling Up | Susan Toft | Ep 217
In this episode of Better Business, Better Life, host Debra Chantry-Taylor chats with guest, Susan Toft, founder and CEO of The Laundry Lady, about her incredible journey from doing laundry as a side hustle to building a $9 million national business with over 300 contractors. Susan shares her journey from starting with a $5,000 grant to leading a tech-enabled service business with over 300 contractors. She talks about the realities of bootstrapping, the impact of appearing on Shark Tank, and how staying true to her values, like flexibility and persistence helped her scale sustainably. From MVPs to market expansion, this episode is packed with practical insights and inspiration for entrepreneurs at any stage. Tune in to an inspiring story of grit, growth, and getting the job done. CONNECT WITH DEBRA: ___________________________________________ ►Debra Chantry-Taylor is a Certified EOS Implementer | Entrepreneurial Leadership & Business Coach | Business Owner ►Connect with Debra: debra@businessaction.co.nz ►See how she can help you: https://businessaction.co.nz/ ____________________________________________ GUEST’S DETAIL: ► The Laundry Lady AU and The Laundry Lady NZ ► Susan Toft Website ► Susan Toft - LinkedIn Chapters: 00:21 - Introduction 02:25 - Susan Toft’s Journey to Success 04:11 - Building and Scaling the Business 07:21 - Challenges and Solutions in Business Growth 14:23 - Branding and Market Expansion 22:29 - Shark Tank Experience and Lessons Learned 34:15 - Personal and Professional Growth 34:41 - Advice for Entrepreneurs 41:27 - Future Plans and Contact Information

Mar 31, 2025 • 44min
Defeating the Commodity Monster | Barry LaBov | Ep 216
Welcome to Better Business, Better Life. In this episode, host Debra Chantry-Taylor is joined by Barry LaBov, two-time Ernst & Young Entrepreneur of the Year and branding expert, to explore the power of differentiation in business.Barry introduces the idea of the “Commodity Monster”, the danger of becoming just another option in the market. He shares powerful stories and practical advice on how to identify your business’s key differentiators, use specific language to tell your brand story, and ensure your customer experience lives up to the promise.If you’re launching a new product, looking to refresh your brand, or simply want to avoid blending in, this episode will show you how to stand out and stay that way.Tune in to learn how to define your difference, and make sure the world knows about it.CONNECT WITH DEBRA: ___________________________________________ ►Debra Chantry-Taylor is a Certified EOS Implementer | Entrepreneurial Leadership & Business Coach | Business Owner►Connect with Debra: debra@businessaction.co.nz►See how she can help you: https://businessaction.co.nz/ ____________________________________________ GUEST’S DETAIL:► LaBov Website► Barry LaBov Writes► Grab Your Copy of "The Power of Differentiation"► Barry LaBov - LinkedInChapters: 00:35 – Introduction02:10 - Barry LaBov's Journey and Philosophy05:40 - The Commodity Monster and Differentiation09:43 - Examples of Successful Differentiation18:07 - The Role of Words and Storytelling30:59 - Practical Tips for Fighting Commoditisation31:12 - The Importance of Imperfection and Innovation35:54 - Final Thoughts and Encouragement

Mar 24, 2025 • 48min
Leading Through Uncertainty | Kevin Eikenberry | Ep 215
In another episode of Better Business, Better Life, host Debra Chantry-Taylor is joined by leadership expert and author Kevin Eikenberry to explore what it truly means to lead with flexibility in an ever-changing world. Drawing from his latest book, Flexible Leadership, Kevin unpacks how great leaders adapt their style based on context, not habit—and why that’s more important now than ever. Together, Debra and Kevin dive into the realities of hybrid work, proximity bias, ego management, and how to balance urgency with long-term vision. Kevin introduces the idea of “flexors”—simple questions that help leaders move beyond their default responses—and explains how staying curious, context-aware, and open to new perspectives can dramatically improve team performance and trust. Whether you're leading a small team or a growing organisation, this conversation is filled with timely insights and practical tips to help you lead with confidence and clarity in uncertain times. Tune in to learn how to lead with greater flexibility, curiosity, and confidence. CONNECT WITH DEBRA: ___________________________________________ ►Debra Chantry-Taylor is a Certified EOS Implementer | Entrepreneurial Leadership & Business Coach | Business Owner ►Connect with Debra: debra@businessaction.co.nz ►See how she can help you: https://businessaction.co.nz/ ____________________________________________ GUEST’S DETAIL: ► The Kevin Eikenberry Group Website ► Grab a Copy of Kevin's Book - Flexible Leadership ► Kevin Eikenberry - LinkedIn Chapters: 00:36 - Introduction 02:27 - Understanding the Concept of Flexible Leadership 04:12 - The Concept of Flexible Leadership 06:52 - Navigating Uncertainty and Leading with Confidence 12:27 - The Role of AI in Leadership 23:06 - Effective Leadership in a Hybrid Work Environment 28:37 - Managing End Runs and Building Trust 33:02 - Challenges for Leaders in a Changing World 44:02 - Practical Tips for Leaders 45:09 - Conclusion and Call to Action


