

Scripture in Black and White
scriptureinblackandwhite
In this Podcast Hosted by Renew, Bobby Harrington and Anthony Walker discuss different topics in theology weekly. They dive into scripture and describe how oftentimes it is more black and white than people think.
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Aug 28, 2024 • 1h 6min
Satan, The Beast, and the False Prophet in Revelation 13 | S4 Ep. 14
Understanding Revelation 13: Antichrist, False Prophets, and the Beast
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Join Anthony Walker and Bobby Harrington in this episode of 'Scripture in Black and White' as they go into the intricate topics of the Antichrist, Revelation 13, and its apocalyptic language. They explore key concepts, including the historical and typological analysis of biblical prophecies, the role of political and religious powers symbolized by the beast and the false prophet, and the significance of the number 666. Through careful interpretation and reference to early Christian writings, they provide insights and perspectives on the unfolding of end-times events as envisioned in the Bible. This episode also touches upon the importance of being prepared for future trials and maintaining faith in the midst of adversity.
Key Takeaways
00:00 Introduction and Recap
00:58 The Antichrist in Modern Context
02:46 Historical Antichrists and Biblical References
06:26 Expectations and Teachings on the Antichrist
11:35 Daniel's Prophecies and Revelation
15:56 Interpreting Apocalyptic Language
28:01 Revelation 13: The Beast and Its Symbolism
33:10 The Beast and the Roman Empire
34:01 Blasphemy and Authority of the Beast
35:12 Worldwide Power of the Beast Empire
38:06 The False Prophet and the One World Order
39:44 The Second Beast and Its Deception
42:14 The Mark of the Beast
44:33 The Number 666 and Its Mysteries
45:18 Revelation 17 and the Beast Empire
50:31 The Defeat of the Beast Empire
56:44 Final Thoughts and Interpretations
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In this episode of "Scripture in Black and White," hosts Anthony Walker and Bobby Harrington explore the Antichrist and related eschatological themes in depth.
Bobby begins by referencing 1 John 2:18, which speaks of the Antichrist and the presence of multiple antichrists throughout history. He cites figures like Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, and Mao Tse Tung as embodiments of the Antichrist spirit, arguing that these examples point to an eventual final manifestation. The conversation then transitions to an analysis of 2 Thessalonians 2, where Bobby outlines ten characteristics of the "man of lawlessness," a figure destined for destruction who sets himself up as God in the temple.
As they delve deeper, Anthony and Bobby turn to the Book of Daniel, focusing on chapter 7. Bobby explains the significance of the "little horn," a king who rises after ten others, uprooting three in the process. This figure, who speaks blasphemies and wages war against the saints, is linked to the ten horns in Revelation, suggesting that the imagery in Daniel serves as a precursor to the prophecies in Revelation. The hosts emphasize the importance of understanding the symbolic language used in these texts—symbols, metaphors, and typologies like animals, colors, and numbers—to avoid misinterpretations.
Next, the discussion zeroes in on Revelation 13, where Bobby describes the beast with ten horns and seven heads, a symbol of a future political and military empire with global influence. He interprets this imagery as pointing to a revived Roman Empire-like entity that will exert control over the world and persecute Christians. Bobby also introduces the "second beast," or the false prophet, who performs deceptive signs and compels people to worship the first beast, linking this figure to the "man of lawlessness" in 2 Thessalonians 2.
A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to discussing the mark of the beast (666), a requirement for buying and selling goods. Bobby draws parallels to modern developments like electronic transactions and digital identities, suggesting that these could align with prophetic warnings about the future.
Towards the end, the focus shifts to Revelation 17 and 19, where Bobby elaborates on the beast empire and the ten kings who receive authority alongside the beast and wage war against Jesus, only to be ultimately defeated. He ties this imagery back to Daniel 7, reinforcing the interconnectedness of these prophecies. In Revelation 19, the final victory of Jesus over the beast and the false prophet is highlighted, as they are cast into the lake of burning sulfur. Bobby concludes by reflecting on the challenges of interpreting apocalyptic prophecies and the importance of preparing for potential persecution.
Throughout the episode, Anthony and Bobby provide a comprehensive analysis of biblical prophecy, exploring the symbolism and themes within these texts to shed light on their relevance today.
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Aug 14, 2024 • 54min
The Beast Empire in Daniel 7 | S4 Ep. 13
Exploring Daniel 7: Unpacking Biblical Prophecy and End Times
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Today’s episode will help us deepen our understanding of biblical prophecy in Daniel 7, exploring its connections to historical events and future expectations to better prepare for end-times challenges.
In this episode of 'Scripture in Black and White,' hosts Anthony Walker and Bobby Harrington dive into Daniel Chapter 7. They examine its connections to Second Thessalonians Chapter 2 and other biblical prophecies concerning the end times. The discussion contrasts different interpretations of the four beasts and ten horns introduced in Daniel's vision, connecting them to both historical kingdoms like Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece, and Rome, and future prophetic events as seen in Revelation. Their analytical yet accessible conversation aims to prepare believers for potential future challenges and deepen understanding of biblical prophecy.
Key Takeaways
00:00 Introduction and Greetings
00:32 Segway to Second Thessalonians and Daniel
05:55 Understanding Daniel's Vision
11:08 Interpretations of the Beasts
22:26 Debating the Little Horn
24:24 Heavenly Scene and Final Kingdom
38:54 Comparing Views and Conclusion
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In this episode of "Scripture in Black and White," hosts Anthony Walker and Bobby Harrington dive into a discussion on biblical prophecy, focusing on Daniel 7. The episode, titled "S4 E12-MP3 for Audio Podcasting," centers on interpreting complex passages related to the end times, a topic that has long intrigued theologians and believers.
Anthony begins by introducing the subject, thanking listeners for their continued support, and setting the stage for a weekly exploration of biblical teachings. The core discussion revolves around 2 Thessalonians 2, Matthew 24, and their connections to the prophetic visions in Daniel 7. Bobby Harrington, an experienced pastor, revisits the essentials of the second coming—resurrection, final judgment, and eternal destiny—highlighting an often overlooked link between 2 Thessalonians 2 and Daniel 7, which he believes clarifies certain controversial end-times teachings.
Bobby offers his interpretation of Daniel 7, suggesting that the four beasts described symbolize successive empires: Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece, and Rome. He sees these beasts as representations of historical events leading up to and slightly beyond the birth of Jesus, with the prophecy foreshadowing significant political and spiritual upheaval.
The hosts discuss the vivid imagery of the four beasts: a lion with eagle's wings, a bear, a leopard with four heads and wings, and a terrifying beast with iron teeth and ten horns. Bobby argues that these beasts represent prominent ancient empires and predicts the emergence of a "little horn" as a persecuting force against God's people.
Anthony and Bobby explore different views on the identity of this "little horn." Anthony suggests it could be Domitian, a first-century Roman emperor, while Bobby believes it points to a future persecuting power connected to a revived Roman Empire. They then discuss a passage in Daniel 7 describing a heavenly tribunal where God, "the Ancient of Days," presides, ultimately overthrowing the fourth beast and the little horn, signifying God's victory over earthly empires.
The episode also goes into various scholarly interpretations of these prophecies, contrasting traditional views with more progressive ones. The discussion highlights connections between Daniel 7 and the Book of Revelation, emphasizing eight parallels, such as the ten horns representing kingdoms and the ultimate triumph of God's kingdom. Bobby concludes by stressing the importance of understanding these prophecies to prepare believers for future challenges.
In summary, this episode offers an in-depth exploration of end-times prophecy, focusing on Daniel 7 and its relevance to both historical events and future expectations, providing listeners with valuable insights into the complexities of biblical interpretation.

Aug 7, 2024 • 1h 14min
The Man of Lawlessness Pt. 3 (feat. Larry Pechawer) | S4 Ep. 12
Exploring 2 Thessalonians 2: In-Depth Discussion with Larry Pechawer | Scripture in Black & White Season 4
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In this episode of Scripture in Black & White, hosts Anthony Walker and Bobby Harrington welcome special guest Larry Pechawer. They dive into an in-depth discussion on 2 Thessalonians 2, exploring different interpretations and theological perspectives. Larry, a retired Bible college professor with extensive experience in Old Testament and Hebrew studies, shares his unique insights and thorough analysis on the passage. The conversation covers topics such as the doctrine of imminence, the man of lawlessness, and the destruction of Jerusalem, providing listeners a comprehensive examination of these complex theological issues.
Key Takeaways
00:00 Introduction and Welcome
01:44 Understanding Second Thessalonians 2
06:14 Diving into the Text: Second Thessalonians 2:1-12
11:16 The Man of Lawlessness and the Day of the Lord
13:48 Historical Context and Interpretations
20:24 The Role of Imminence in Prophecy
21:42 Differentiating Key Figures: Lawless One, Beast, and Antichrist
28:08 Paul's Connection to the Olivet Discourse
39:52 The Coming of the Man of Lawlessness
43:50 Imminence and the Return of Christ
45:45 Debating the Signs of the Second Coming
59:24 The Role of John of Gashala
01:12:08 Concluding Thoughts and Reflections
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In this episode hosts Anthony Walker and Bobby Harrington, along with their special guest, Larry Pechawer, embark on a detailed discussion about 2 Thessalonians Chapter 2 and its implications, particularly regarding the end times, the concept of the "man of lawlessness," and the doctrine of eminence.
The show kicks off with the usual warm greetings and introduction of Larry Pechawer, a Bible college professor with extensive experience in teaching both Old and New Testament scriptures. Larry shares his academic background, including his tenure at several theological institutions and his expertise in Old Testament prophecy, which laid the foundation for his interest in the topics discussed in this episode.
The central theme of this episode revolves around 2 Thessalonians Chapter 2, where Paul discusses the second coming of Christ and the events that would precede it, such as the appearance of the "man of lawlessness." The hosts and Larry dive deep into the text, analyzing verse by verse to extract meanings and interpretations. The discussion is particularly focused on the significance of the "man of lawlessness," his identity, and the timing of Christ's return.
A significant part of the discussion revolves around the interpretation of verses 8 and 9. Larry offers a unique perspective that the "coming" mentioned in verse 8 may not necessarily pertain to Jesus' second coming but rather to the appearance of the "man of lawlessness." His translation hints at a timeframe of events rather than a singular divine intervention. This reinterpretation challenges conventional readings that typically associate the verses directly with Christ's return.
Another focal point is the doctrine of eminence—the belief that Christ's return could happen at any moment. Larry underscores the difficulty in maintaining this doctrine if Paul indeed listed specific signs and events that have to occur before the second coming. By linking the "man of lawlessness" and the rebellion to historical events like the Jewish revolt, Larry seeks to reconcile these passages with the idea that once those early prophecies were fulfilled, the second coming could then be considered imminent from that point forward.
The episode also touches on different eschatological views—pre-millennialism, amillennialism, post-millennialism, and preterism—and how 2 Thessalonians 2 poses challenges to these interpretations. Bobby and Anthony steer the dialogue towards understanding how these theological frameworks hold up against the text's specifics.
Towards the end of the episode, Bobby and Anthony inquire further into Larry's interpretation, especially about the specific activities of John of Gashala and whether he fits the description given in the scripture. They discuss the apocalyptic language used by Paul and its implications for identifying the "man of lawlessness." The conversation is enriched by the guests' shared dedication to understanding the scripture deeply and coherently, despite differing viewpoints.
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Jul 31, 2024 • 1h 6min
The Man of Lawlessness Pt. 2 | S4 Ep. 11
When Will He Return?
“Today’s episode will help us deepen our understanding of 2 Thessalonians and Matthew 24, equipping us to interpret end-times prophecy with clarity and faithfulness to scripture.
In this episode of 'Scripture in Black and White,' Anthony Walker and Bobby Harrington continue their examination of 2 Thessalonians, focusing on Paul's teachings about the end times, the man of lawlessness, and the role of apostasy. They tie these themes into Jesus' prophecies from Matthew 24, discussing false teachings, signs, and the importance of holding onto the truth. The hosts also announce a future guest from Ozark Christian College who will present a different perspective on these matters.
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Key Takeaways
00:00 Introduction and Recap
01:25 Discussion on Second Thessalonians
02:09 The Man of Lawlessness
03:53 The Restrainer and End Times Theories
07:32 Historical Context and Interpretations
20:58 False Teachings and Signs of the End Times
27:07 Matthew 24 and the End of the Age
33:13 Persecution and Apostasy
35:11 The Gospel to All Nations
36:19 Timeline of Events
40:39 The Abomination of Desolation
46:27 The Coming of the Son of Man
57:55 God's Powerful Delusion
01:04:40 Conclusion and Next Steps
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In this episode of "Scripture in Black and White," hosts Anthony Walker and Bobby Harrington go into the rich themes of 2 Thessalonians, focusing on Paul's teachings about the second coming of Jesus and end-times prophecy. They start with a warm welcome back for their audience, briefly recapping the previous episode's discussion to set the stage for this deep dive.
Discussion on 2 Thessalonians:
Introduction and Continuation:
Anthony and Bobby reflect on their previous discussions about Paul's writings in 2 Thessalonians, expressing gratitude for their audience's engagement.
They outline the focus for this episode: a thorough examination of 2 Thessalonians 2, with insights from Larry Pichower of Ozark Christian College promised for future episodes. They stress that while understanding end-times prophecies is important, these topics are not essential for salvation and can be open to different interpretations.
Exegesis of 2 Thessalonians Chapter 2:
The hosts analyze Paul's teachings about events preceding the second coming, such as apostasy, the revealing of the man of lawlessness, and the mystery of lawlessness already at work.
They discuss the "restrainer," exploring various interpretations including the Roman Empire, the gospel's power, the Holy Spirit, or angelic forces under God's command.
The discussion emphasizes the importance of being aware and vigilant, understanding the scripture correctly, and preparing for the return of Jesus.
Link to Matthew 24:
Comparison with Gospel Narratives:
Bobby connects Paul's teachings with Jesus' prophecies in Matthew 24, drawing on scholarly insights from D.A. Carson.
They discuss Jesus’ warnings about deception, wars, famines, earthquakes, persecution, and apostasy, linking these signs to Paul's teachings in Thessalonians.
Signs of the End Times:
The conversation highlights the similarities between the "birth pains" in Matthew and the signs of apostasy and the man of lawlessness in Thessalonians.
They reflect on historical events, such as the destruction of the temple in 70 AD, as precursors or shadows of the final tribulation predicted in scripture.
Clarifications and Exhortations:
The Role of Predictions and Interpretations:
Anthony and Bobby caution against specific end-times predictions, like those made by Jehovah’s Witnesses and modern televangelists, which can lead to skepticism and disillusionment.
They emphasize the importance of staying firm in faith, acknowledging that the exact timing of these events remains uncertain but encouraging believers to be prepared.
Audience Guidance:
The hosts urge their audience to cling to biblical truths and remain wary of false teachings, expressing a heartfelt desire for their listeners, including their own families, to be deeply rooted in scripture to withstand deception.
Upcoming Discussions:
The episode wraps up with a teaser for the next session featuring Larry Pichower, who will offer a different perspective on eschatological issues, reaffirming that diverse interpretations can coexist within the broader Christian fellowship.
They remind the audience about a free ebook available for download, which expands on the discussed topics and encourages further study.
Conclusion:
Anthony and Bobby emphasize the importance of scriptural literacy and vigilance, urging believers to stand firm in their faith amidst a world filled with false teachings and prophecies.
The examination of 2 Thessalonians 2 and Matthew 24 provides a comprehensive understanding of end-times prophecy, highlighting the necessity of adhering to biblical truths.
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Jul 29, 2024 • 36min
The Man of Lawlessness Pt. 1 | S4 Ep. 10
We apologize to our audience, this featured episode follows along with our Discussion on 2nd Thessalonians 2 and was placed out of order.
Feel free to view the episodes:
The Man of Lawlessness Pt. 2
The Man of Lawlessness Pt. 3
In this episode of 'Scripture in Black and White,' host Anthony Walker and Bobby Harrington explore Second Thessalonians, focusing on Paul's teachings about end times, apostasy, and the man of lawlessness. They go into various interpretations and discuss how these prophecies relate to contemporary events and future expectations. The conversation includes an examination of classic all-millennial views and references to other biblical passages like Matthew 24 and Revelation 13.

Jul 24, 2024 • 33min
The Five End Times Frameworks Part 2 | S4 Ep. 9
Understanding Preterist Amillennialism and Millennial Views in Christian Eschatology
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In this episode of Scripture in Black and White, Bobby Harrington and Anthony Walker explore various perspectives on millennial views in Christian eschatology, focusing particularly on Preterist Amillennialism. They discuss how this view interprets the millennium and the binding of Satan as symbolic periods starting with Jesus' resurrection. Comparisons are made to Classic Amillennialism, Historic Premillennialism, and Dispensational Premillennialism, covering the origins and beliefs of each view. The discussion also critiques Hyper-Preterism as heretical and emphasizes understanding symbolic versus literal interpretations of biblical prophecies. The episode aims to educate and engage listeners with a thorough exploration of these eschatological views.
Key Takeaways
00:00 Introduction to Preterist Amillennialism
01:19 Exploring Preterist Amillennialism
03:57 Critique of Hyper Preterism
06:41 Symbolism in Revelation
10:40 Classic Amillennialism Explained
17:47 Historic Premillennialism
21:17 Dispensational Premillennialism
27:16 Postmillennialism: An Optimistic View
31:10 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
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This episode, provides an in-depth examination of various eschatological views within Christian theology, focusing on millennial perspectives. The discussion is led by two hosts, one explaining the perspectives while the other asks clarifying questions.
Preterist Amillennialism
The episode begins by exploring Preterist Amillennialism. This perspective, endorsed by theologians like R.C. Sproul, posits that the kingdom of God began with Jesus' resurrection, marking the start of a millennium during which Satan is bound and unable to hinder the church's growth. This view sees the church's expansion as a fulfillment of Revelation 20, with the righteous reigning with Jesus in heaven until His return. This will be followed by the resurrection of the righteous and the wicked, final judgment, and eternal destinies. The hosts caution against Hyper-Preterism, which contends that Jesus' second coming, the resurrection, and the final judgment already occurred in 70 AD, contradicting foundational Christian beliefs and scripture passages like 2 Thessalonians 2.
Classic Amillennialism
The discussion then moves to Classic Amillennialism, which aligns with the belief that the millennium began with Jesus' resurrection, inaugurating a period during which Satan is bound, allowing the church to expand globally. This timeline includes a last days' decline, the rise of the Antichrist, and significant tribulations before Jesus intervenes. The episode emphasizes the symbolic interpretation of the thousand-year period, a concept rooted in literature like Plato's "Republic."
Historic Premillennialism
Next, Historic Premillennialism is examined. This view, prevalent in the early church until the time of Augustine, posits an Old Testament era followed by the church age. A notable decline and great tribulation ensue, featuring the Antichrist and cosmic disruptions. Jesus' return initiates a literal thousand-year reign on earth with the righteous, followed by Satan's release, a final apostasy, and ultimate divine intervention, leading to final judgment and eternal destinies.
Dispensational Premillennialism
The conversation then shifts to Dispensational Premillennialism, a modern view originating in the 1830s with John Nelson Darby and popularized by the Schofield Reference Bible. This perspective introduces a distinct period for Israel, delineating a church age that pauses prophetic fulfillment regarding Israel until the rapture, which removes Christians from the earth. A seven-year tribulation follows, focused on Israel, marked by the Antichrist's rise and severe persecution. After this tribulation, Jesus' return inaugurates a literal thousand-year reign, followed again by Satan's release, final judgment, and eternal destinies.
Postmillennialism
The episode also explores Postmillennialism, characterized by optimism about the church's future. It suggests the millennium began with Jesus' resurrection, leading to gospel prosperity and global church growth. Although this view posits a brief rebellion before Jesus' return, it anticipates a general improvement in adherence to Jesus' teachings worldwide.
Throughout the podcast, the hosts reference biblical texts, historical contexts, and scholarly works, offering a comprehensive overview of various theological positions. They emphasize respect for differing views and encourage listeners to engage critically and reflectively, underscoring the importance of scriptural fidelity and historical consistency.
Summary and Reflection
The episode concludes with a summary, highlighting the intention to accurately represent each eschatological view. The hosts reflect on the importance of understanding these perspectives and invite audience interaction.
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Jul 17, 2024 • 31min
The Five End Times Frameworks Part 1 | S4 Ep. 8
Understanding End Times: Diverse Perspectives on Millennialism
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In this episode, hosts Anthony Walker and Bobby Harrington discuss the complex topic of end times and millennialism. They explore various theological perspectives, covering subjects such as the new heavens and new earth, the second coming of Jesus, the resurrection of the dead, final judgment, hell, and tribulation. Bobby introduces and explains five key end-time paradigms. This episode encourages viewers to maintain an open, truth-seeking mindset while exploring different theological interpretations.
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00:00 Introduction and Greetings
00:39 Overview of Previous Topics
01:01 Today's Focus: End Times Paradigms
02:04 Five Key End Time Beliefs
07:12 The Millennium Debate
07:41 Understanding the Antichrist
08:13 The Rapture Explained
08:52 The Tribulation Period
09:17 Restoration of Ethnic Israel
16:11 Different End Time Paradigms
27:06 Respecting Different Views
28:05 Conclusion and Personal Reflections
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In this episode Anthony Walker and Bobby Harrington dive deep into various interpretations of Christian eschatology. The episode starts light-heartedly, with Anthony referencing being called a "pan millennialist," before shifting to deeper theological discussions. They recap previously tackled themes such as the new heavens and new earth, among other eschatological topics.
The episode's primary focus is on breaking down five key eschatological paradigms:
Preterist Amillennialism: This belief posits that most prophecies have already been fulfilled, with only the second coming of Jesus remaining. This view is common among conservative Presbyterians and other fact-based Christian denominations.
Classic Amillennialism: This perspective holds that the church expands over time, faces tribulations towards the end, and culminates in a final judgment. The millennium is viewed as a symbolic period of Christ’s reign through the church.
Historic Premillennialism: This traditional stance anticipates that Jesus will return before a literal thousand-year reign on earth. Unlike other views, it does not separate the destinies of Jews and the Church and sees the millennium as a literal era of Christ’s rule following his return.
Dispensational Premillennialism: This view outlines different dispensations (ages) in salvation history, particularly distinguishing between the church and Israel. It envisions a future millennium with events like the rapture preceding tribulation, following the sequence popularized by the "Left Behind" series.
Postmillennialism: This belief asserts that the world will progressively improve under Christ’s reign, culminating in his second coming. The doctrines related to this view see the millennium as a current, symbolic period marked by gradual betterment.
Bobby goes into detail about the origins and implications of these views, explaining how personal experiences and academic influences shape one's eschatological beliefs. For instance, he mentions Dr. Bruce Waltke's shift from Dispensational Premillennialism to a different view, illustrating how scholarly perspectives can evolve over time.
They stress the importance of respecting differing views within the Christian community, emphasizing that these are not essential issues for salvation. They advocate for listeners to adopt a learner’s posture, encouraging informed and respectful examination of beliefs. Anthony and Bobby highlight how eschatological views shape believers' outlooks and actions in the present, influencing their engagement with faith and the world.
In conclusion, this episode of "Scripture in Black and White" provides an in-depth exploration of Christian eschatology, presenting a balanced view of various theological perspectives on end times. Anthony and Bobby aim to foster informed, respectful discussion and personal reflection on these deeply significant topics, helping listeners to build a nuanced understanding of their faith.
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Jul 10, 2024 • 46min
The New Heaven and the New Earth | S4 Ep. 7
Exploring the Promises of the New Heaven and New Earth | Scripture in Black and White Season 4 Episode 7
In this episode of 'Scripture in Black and White,' Anthony Walker and Bobby Harrington discuss the profound concept of the new heaven and the new earth, exploring biblical promises and the ultimate utopian dream. They reflect on life without the curse of the fall, the intimate presence of God, and the vision of an eternal paradise where believers dwell with God and loved ones. The hosts also highlight the importance of the final judgment and inspire listeners to look forward to an eternity filled with joy, free from pain and suffering. Furthermore, they emphasize the significance of heaven and how it offers hope and encouragement amidst life's challenges.
Watch the Video:
Key Takeaways
00:00 Introduction and Utopian Dream
00:44 Welcome to Season Four
00:50 Reflecting on the Final Judgment
01:26 Promises of God and the New Heaven and New Earth
02:09 Encouragement and Resources
03:32 Insight into Heaven
04:04 The Book of Life and Final Judgment
05:59 The New Heaven and New Earth
12:19 Living in God's Presence
29:10 The Curse of the Fall and Its Removal
34:59 The Garden of Eden Restored
42:57 Conclusion and Next Episode Preview
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In this episode of "Scripture in Black and White, hosts Anthony Walker and Bobby Harrington dive into eschatology—the study of end times, focusing specifically on the Christian vision of the new heaven and new earth.
#### Introduction:
- Bobby and Anthony Walker rexpress their desire to be in the presence of God with their loved ones, friends, and even those who don't know Jesus yet.
- They highlight their gratitude for the listeners' support through previous episodes, particularly in discussing the tough topic of the final judgment.
#### Discussion Points:
1. **God's Promises and Eternal Destiny:**
- The hosts share their excitement about discussing a lighter and more promising subject compared to the final judgment—the promises of God for the future.
- Bobby Harrington emphasizes the significance of being firm and truthful according to scripture.
2. **Introduction to the New Heaven and New Earth:**
- Revelation's depiction of the final judgment and the new heaven and new earth is discussed.
- The concept from 1 Peter 1:3 regarding inheritance in the heavenly realms is elaborated upon.
3. **Living in the Presence of God:**
- Bobby and Anthony discuss the blessings of dwelling with God and the deep longing to be in His presence.
- They connect this experience to the description of the new Jerusalem in Revelation, explaining that the new Jerusalem represents the people of God.
4. **End of the Curse of the Fall:**
- The segment elaborates on the removal of the curse of sin and death, highlighting the transformative power of God in the new creation.
- Additional biblical passages are cited to support this, including Romans 8 and Revelation 21, which promise no more pain, sorrow, or death.
5. **Characteristics of the New Heaven and New Earth:**
- The hosts discuss how the new heaven and new earth will restore the pre-fall ideal of the Garden of Eden, filled with life and free from the curse.
- Revelation 22’s passage about the river of life and the tree of life is used to illustrate this perfect, eternal state.
6. **Living Eternally Without Time:**
- Anthony and Bobby reflect on the challenge of comprehending eternity beyond the constraints of time, emphasizing desire for God's presence as surpassing temporal concerns.
7. **Inspirational and Motivational Call:**
- The hosts stress the importance of inspiring others with the promise of heaven and focusing on Jesus amidst life’s struggles.
- They encourage listeners to keep their eyes on eternal joys that far surpass earthly sufferings or sacrifices made in faith.
#### Conclusion:
- The episode wraps up with a preview of upcoming topics, including interpretative debates on issues like the Millennium, the Antichrist, tribulations, and Israel in end-times theology.
- The hosts thank listeners and direct them to additional resources, such as the renew.org website and specific recommendations like Anthony Walker's book on identity.
This episode serves as an encouraging and thorough exploration of Christian eschatology, aiming to instill hope, faith, and a longing for the promised new creation.
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Jul 3, 2024 • 53min
The Discussion of Hell | S4 Ep. 6
Exploring the Realities of Hell - Scripture in Black and White
Join Anthony Walker and Bobby Harrington in this somber yet necessary episode of 'Scripture in Black and White.' They dive into the biblical understanding of hell, its connection to God's holiness, and the eternal consequences for humanity. Featuring a deep discussion on passages from Exodus, Isaiah, and the book of Revelation, this episode underscores the serious nature of hell and the importance of living a life aligned with God's teachings. Secure your free ebook at renew.org/endtimes for an expanded exploration of these themes and guidance on joining a local church.
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Key Takeaways
00:00 Introduction to the Essence of Heaven and Hell
00:34 Welcome and Episode Overview
01:31 Discussing the Concept of Hell
04:06 The Holiness of God and Its Implications
06:56 Biblical Examples of God's Holiness
10:20 Understanding Hell Through Scripture
34:20 Degrees of Punishment in Hell
49:25 The Importance of Evangelism
50:58 Conclusion and Next Episode Preview
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In this episode of "Scripture in Black and White," hosts Anthony Walker and Bobby Harrington dive into a profound and somber discussion about heaven and hell from a scriptural standpoint. They open the conversation with foundational aspects of being with God and the emphasis placed in the commandments to prioritize God above all else. The essence of heaven is seen as being in the presence of God, while hell is defined as the eternal separation from God accompanied by torment.
1. **Concept of Hell:**
- Hell is portrayed as eternal separation and punishment for those whose sins are not atoned for by Jesus’ sacrifice.
- Diverse terminology in scriptures refers to hell as Gehenna, which symbolizes a place of perpetual fire and torment likened to a garbage dump outside Jerusalem.
2. **God's Holiness and Justice:**
- Discussions from Exodus and Isaiah underscore the necessity of understanding God’s holiness. Key references include Moses encountering God at the burning bush and the implications of God’s commandments.
- God’s dual nature of love and holiness means that sin must be punished to uphold His justice.
3. **Reality of Sin and Punishment:**
- All humans are inherently sinful and stand condemned unless they accept Jesus’ atonement.
- The final judgment and the severity of hell’s punishment are emphasized, as described in scriptures like 2 Thessalonians, Luke, and Revelation.
4. **Degrees of Punishment:**
- The Bible indicates varying degrees of punishment in hell, tailored to the knowledge and actions of individuals.
5. **Eternal Perspective:**
- The immutable nature of hell and the importance of embracing Jesus’ salvation to escape eternal punishment were discussed. Jesus teaches that hell is far worse than any suffering experienced on earth.
6. **Urgency of Evangelism:**
- The significance of sharing the gospel is highlighted, emphasizing the dire necessity for people to turn to Jesus to avoid eternal damnation.
7. **Encouragement for Listeners:**
- Listeners are encouraged to obtain the free ebook available at renew.org/endtimeswhich expands on the podcast’s discussions and offers guidance on being baptized into Christ and joining a local church.
Come back next week as we continue this conversation! This episode provides a crucial and sobering reflection on the afterlife, urging listeners to consider their spiritual standing and the significance of God's holiness.
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Jun 26, 2024 • 50min
The Final Judgment | S4 Ep. 5
Understanding the Final Judgment | Scripture in Black and White Season 4 Episode 5
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In this episode of 'Scripture in Black and White,' hosts Anthony Walker and Bobby Harrington dive into the topic of the final judgment as taught in the Bible. They discuss its universal nature, the comprehensiveness of God's knowledge, the basis of Jesus' teachings, the fairness of God's judgment, and its finality. The importance of repentance and embracing Jesus' teachings are emphasized. The episode also offers a free eBook related to the series for deeper study.
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Key Takeaways
00:00 Introduction and Welcome
00:38 The Sobering Reality of Final Judgment
07:16 The Universality of Final Judgment
11:51 Comprehensive Nature of Judgment
21:26 Jesus' Teachings as the Standard
32:22 The Fairness of God's Judgment
37:20 The Finality of Judgment
45:06 Conclusion and Next Steps
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The episode of "Scripture in Black and White" presents an in-depth discussion on the theme of the final judgment as described in Christian scripture. The hosts, Anthony Walker and Bobby Harrington, go into the gravity and seriousness of the final judgment while examining biblical passages, personal anecdotes, and theological perspectives.
The episode opens with a greeting and a brief reflection on John 3:16, emphasizing God's love for humanity. Anthony welcomes the audience and introduces his co-host, Bobby. Bobby shares his personal struggle and long-term effort in preparing teachings about basic Christianity, final judgment, and related themes. He mentions his long-standing project of developing a course on basic Christianity and the emotional impact of revisiting these teachings.
The central topic of today's episode is revealed: the final judgment. The hosts agree on its sobering nature and stress its importance. They emphasize their commitment to spreading awareness and teaching the truth about this subject to help people turn to God.
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Anthony and Bobby discuss five key aspects of the final judgment:
1. **Universality of Judgment**: They explain that the final judgment will be universal, encompassing everyone who has ever lived. Bobby cites biblical passages like Romans 14:10-12 and 2 Corinthians 5, highlighting that every individual will stand before God's judgment seat and give an account of their actions. They address the comprehensive nature of this judgment, noting that God will remember every deed, word, and thought, even those we might have forgotten.
2. **Comprehensive Nature of Judgment**: Bobby elaborates on the comprehensiveness of the final judgment, illustrating with passages from Revelation 20:11-15 that describe how all actions, good and bad, will be recorded and judged. They reflect on how sobering it is to know that everything, even our casual words, will be accounted for, as emphasized by Jesus in Matthew 12:36-37.
3. **Basis of Judgment on Jesus' Teachings**: The hosts explain that the final judgment will be based on Jesus' teachings. They stress the importance of adhering to Jesus' words as the standard by which everyone will be judged. Bobby reads from John 12:47-50 to reinforce the idea that Jesus’ words, which are the words of God, will be the criteria for judgment.
4. **Fairness of Judgment**: They assure the audience of the fairness of God's judgment, referring to Romans 2:6-11 and other scriptures that emphasize God's impartiality. They touch upon the nature of God's justice and how He judges every person without favoritism, ensuring that the final judgment is just and equitable.
5. **Finality of Judgment**: Bobby discusses the finality of the final judgment, emphasizing that there are no second chances post-mortem, no purgatory as traditionally conceived, and no escapes. He references Hebrews 9:27-28, which states that people die once and then face the judgment.
Throughout the episode, the hosts share personal stories and reflections, like Anthony’s recollections of an elder who thoughtfully responded after pausing briefly and discussions about family games where rules dictate fairness and learning.
They conclude by reiterating that while the final judgment is a grave topic, the message of Jesus offers hope and salvation. John 3:16-18 is read to illustrate that belief in Jesus grants eternal life and salvation from condemnation. The hosts emphasize that this teaching should inspire individuals to embrace faith and live by Jesus' teachings.
In essence, this episode serves as both a theological deep dive and a pastoral exhortation, designed to prepare believers for the sobering reality of the final judgment while pointing them towards the hope found in Jesus Christ.
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