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Jul 3, 2018 • 60min
Ep. 35: The Problem With 'To All The Boys I've Loved Before' (ft. Kevin Kreider)
The trailer for the Netflix adaptation of Jenny Han's YA novel, "To All The Boys I've Loved Before," has fans excited, especially because an Asian woman is in a lead rom-com role. But within Asian American spaces, there has been a lot of discussion over how progressive this movie actually is when it's yet another story about an Asian girl obsessing over mainly white boys. Is media rep for POC always to be unquestioningly celebrated? Can we freely talk about the problems of idealizing white love interests? Joining Jess and Oxford, male model Kevin Kreider offers his insider knowledge of the racist hierarchy in the modeling/entertainment world to highlight why this is an important issue that is much more than about movies and TV.
Intro: "To All The Boys I've Loved Before" Trailer
Outro Song: "I Like Me Better" (Instrumental) by Lauv
TWITTER:
Jess (@cogitatotomato)
Oxford (@oxford_kondo)
Kevin Kreider (@kevkreider)
KEVIN KREIDER LINKS:
"The Ugly Model" documentary: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/uglymodeldoc/the-ugly-model-a-documentary
Youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAJJBY9sSThM02XLsfb3U3A
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kevin.kreider/?hl=en
The Disappointing Reality of Dating as an Asian-American Man: https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/youre-really-good-looking-for-an-asian-guy_us_5b33ccdee4b03b6966b99426
REFERENCED RESOURCES:
Some People Are Upset There’s No Asian Male in Netflix’s New Film With Lana Condor: https://nextshark.com/people-upset-theres-no-asian-male-netflixs-new-film-lana-condor/
Hapa actor Charles Melton cast as full-Korean male lead in "The Sun Is Also A Star": https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/sun-is-a-star-riverdale-star-charles-melton-joins-yara-shahidi-1116216
Jesse Wiliams and Light-Skinned Privilege: http://blackyouthproject.com/why-we-need-to-talk-about-light-skinned-privelege/
Amandla Stenberg turned down "Black Panther" role because she felt she was too light-skinned: https://rollingout.com/2018/03/01/amandla-stenberg-rejected-black-panther-role-light-skin/
Alicia Vikander and Riley Keogh to star with Naoki Kobayashi in Netflix's "The Earthquake Bird": https://www.empireonline.com/people/alicia-vikander/alicia-vikander-riley-keough-starring-earthquake-bird/
Justin Chon and Ellie Bamber to star in "Taipei": https://variety.com/2016/film/news/justin-chon-ellie-bamber-romance-movie-taipei-1201931718/
The pursuit of white women: Brown actors like Aziz Ansari have reduced brown women to a punchline: https://qz.com/1016554/aziz-ansari-hasan-minhaj-kumail-nanjiani-brown-actors-have-reduced-brown-women-to-a-punchline/
I’m Tired of Watching Brown Men Fall in Love With White Women Onscreen: https://themuse.jezebel.com/i-m-tired-of-watching-brown-men-fall-in-love-with-white-1796522590
The Problem With How Some Brown Male Comics Portray Brown Women In Films And TV: https://mic.com/videos/7577/pr-0037-brownwomeninmedia#.EtZwAvyr9
Does Anyone Have The Right To Sex by Amia Srinivasan: https://www.lrb.co.uk/v40/n06/amia-srinivasan/does-anyone-have-the-right-to-sex
You Need 20,000 Followers to Even Look at This Instagrammable Mural in L.A.: https://www.travelandleisure.com/travel-news/instagram-famous-art-mural-los-angeles
"To All The Boys I've Loved Before" Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTLc_RzqaJc&t=2s

Jun 28, 2018 • 33min
Ep. 34: Korea Saves The World (Cup) By Knocking Out Germany
In life, there are certain certainties. The universe is immense. Your kids will disappoint you. And Germany will make it to the knockout round of the World Cup. Wait what?! Korea had something to say about that last one? Teen, Oxford, and Mark relive a glorious game and revel in the even more glorious outbursts of shared celebrations between Korea, Mexico, and the rest of the world in Germany's embarrassment.
Intro/Outro Song: "For Victory" by TransFixion
Intro Voice Track: Korea vs. Germany World Cup 2018 Match from FIFA TV
TWITTER:
Teen (@mont_jiang)
Oxford (@oxford_kondo)
Mark (@snbatman)
REFERENCED RESOURCES:
Korean and Mexican fans celebrate together: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6fbt1vxhCs
Chinese Fans of Germany: http://www.scmp.com/sport/china/article/2122433/why-chinese-football-fans-will-cheer-die-mannschaft-2018-world-cup
Tavern of the Taeguk Warriors: https://www.taegukwarriors.com/
BigSoccer Korea forums: http://www.bigsoccer.com/forums/korea.252/

Jun 25, 2018 • 1h 9min
Ep. 33: Fear of Demographic Change and Racist Einstein
With Trump's abominable immigration policies creating child prisons and extreme deportations, the question must be asked: what is truly fueling all this? It's not job loss. It's not crime. It's fear of demographic change. Teen, Oxford, and Mark trace the rather easily discoverable trail of this "America as white nation" ideology and give their takes on the American moral obligation to allow immigration.
Intro/Outro Music: Ballade No. 1 in G Minor, Op. 23 by Frederic Chopin
Intro/Outro Voice Track: Rep. Steve King explains defense of "our civilization" tweet on Tucker Carlson Tonight
TWITTER:
Teen (@mont_jiang)
Oxford (@oxford_kondo)
Mark (@snbatman)
HOW TO HELP:
How to call Congress: https://www.ucsusa.org/action/phone-calls.html
Immigration Law/Lawyer: https://www.nilc.org/get-involved/links/aro/natres/
Direct Protests: To fight back, a number of organizations including the National Domestic Workers Alliance, the Leadership Conference on Civil Rights, the ACLU, the Women’s March, and MoveOn, among others — have organized a nationwide protest on Saturday, June 30. The main demonstration is scheduled to take place from 11 a.m. to 2 p.m. at Lafayette Square in Washington, D.C. These have worked - https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ice-portland-protests-family-separation_us_5b2b645ae4b0321a01cde0d9
Where the children are being held: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/06/21/us/where-are-the-border-children.html
REFERENCED RESOURCES:
Chris Hayes's tweetstorm re demographic change: https://twitter.com/chrislhayes/status/1010275131632115714
Michele Bachmann on 1965 immigration reforms: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/michele-bachmanns-misplaced-immigration-nostalgia/2011/09/14/gIQABmMnVK_story.html?utm_term=.963207eeb558
Bad guy on TV is always the white guy: https://www.thedailybeast.com/why-do-white-people-feel-discriminated-against-i-asked-them
The Flight 93 Election: https://www.claremont.org/crb/basicpage/the-flight-93-election/
Richard Spencer says immigration is the only important issue: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jul/31/american-renaissance-conference-white-identity
Arizona lawmaker wants more white babies: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/06/14/arizona-rep-criticized-immigration/701678002/
Waking Life coffeehouse pick-up artist on Mexican immigration: https://www.thecut.com/2016/01/jared-rutledge-pickup-artist-c-v-r.html
Viktor Orban on anti-LGBTQ and anti-reproductive rights: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/hungary-president-viktor-orban-anti-lgbt-hate-group-iof-homophobia-gay-europe-a7758166.html
Anti-Semitism in Lithuania: https://www.vox.com/2016/9/19/12933072/far-right-white-riot-trump-brexit
Asian immigration resentment in Vancouver: http://vancouversun.com/opinion/columnists/douglas-todd-most-dont-consider-immigration-cuts-to-be-racist-global-survey-finds

Jun 18, 2018 • 1h 15min
Ep. 32: The Marriage Bubble
Jess, Mark, and Teen tackle falling marriage rates and why men and women seem to be seeing past each other. Also, Asian beer supremacy and the frothy spectacle of the frozen Sapporo.
Intro/Outro Song: "Luv (sic)" by Nujabes
TWITTER:
Teen (@mont_jiang)
Jess (@cogitatotomato)
Mark (@snbatman)
REFERENCED RESOURCES:
America, Home of the Transaction Marriage by Victor Tan Chen: https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2017/08/marriage-rates-education/536913/

Jun 13, 2018 • 51min
Ep. 31: Goodbye, Anthony Bourdain
In this special midweek episode, Plan A reflects on what made Anthony Bourdain such a beloved figure, especially among people of color. Asian Americans had a particular respect for the way he was able to appreciate Asian food and culture in a way that was free of condescension or white-saviorism. Teen, Oxford, and guest podcaster Kasie pay their respects by talking about their favorite Bourdain moments and what his legacy is for American culture.
Intro/Outro Song: Rising Sun Blues (King Kong Remix) by Michael Ruffino for "Parts Unknown"
TWITTER:
Teen (@mont_jiang)
Oxford (@oxford_kondo)
Kasie (@kasefiles)
REFERENCED RESOURCES:
Lowdown on Chinatown: https://www.lowdownonchinatown.com/
Anthony Bourdain Really Hated 'Midnight In Paris' by Kyle Buchanan: http://www.vulture.com/2012/02/anthony-bourdain-really-hated-midnight-in-paris.html
Anthony Bourdain cooks Korean food for Anderson Cooper: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1IIUZIjoNk

Jun 11, 2018 • 1h 2min
Ep. 30: NYC Specialized High Schools, 'Yappie,' and Asian Baby Names
NYC Mayor Bill de Blasio has been advocating for the scrapping of the SHSAT, which determines admission to the city's top public schools like Stuyvesant, Brooklyn Tech, and Bronx Science. How much of this is fear and resentment of an Asian takeover? Can the rise of Asian politicians, such as in California, strengthen our community? Teen, Oxford, and Mark discuss this contentious topic, along with the trailer for the new Wong Fu series “Yappie” and bad Asian baby names.
Intro/Outro Song: “One Winged Angel” from Final Fantasy VII by Nobuo Uematsu (remade by Enrico Deiana)
Intro Voice Track: Alexandra Wallace’s “Asians in the Library” Rant
TWITTER:
Teen: @mont_jiang
Oxford: @oxford_kondo
Mark: @snbatman
REFERENCED RESOURCES:
Was Kevin Cooper Framed For Murder? by Nicholas Kristof: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/05/17/opinion/sunday/kevin-cooper-california-death-row.html
Could A Legal Love Triangle Scuttle SCOTUS Hopes For This Leading Jurist? by David Lat: https://abovethelaw.com/2016/09/could-a-legal-love-triangle-scuttle-scotus-hopes-for-this-leading-jurist/
A Guide To The Controversy Around NYC’s Specialized High Schools by Grace Segers: https://www.cityandstateny.com/articles/policy/education/new-york-city-specialized-high-schools-admissions-guide.html
Chancellor Carranza to desegregation plan foes: "You don't own these classrooms" by By Ben Chapman, Erin Durkin and Jillian Jorgensen: http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/education/ny-school-desegregation-plan-20180605-story.html
Asian-Americans Have Highest Poverty Rate In NYC, But Stereotypes Make The Issue Invisible by Kimberly Yam: https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/asian-american-poverty-nyc_us_58ff7f40e4b0c46f0782a5b6
Rep. Grace Meng's tweet opposing elimination of SHSAT: https://twitter.com/RepGraceMeng/status/1004516875328479233
The Korean’s tweetstorm on the SHSAT: https://twitter.com/AskAKorean/status/1004774256033529867
Phil Wang of Wong Fu's angry tweetstorm: https://twitter.com/philipwang/status/993588831482859520
In Fighting Homeless Camp, Irvine's Asians Win, But At A Cost by Anh Do: http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-homeless-asians-20180401-story.html
Mark Tseng-Putterman's tweet on how there's "no AsAm experience beyond the black-white binary": https://twitter.com/tsengputterman/status/1001892650889416704
"Yappie" by Wong Fu Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rYYuHfGgtU
"Yellow Fever" by Wong Fu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2ojpefxk6o
"Yellow Fever 2" by Wong Fu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2O84QhVqsIs
Phil Wang's segment in Natalie Tran's "White Male Asian Female" Documentary: https://youtu.be/chFKDaZns6w?t=29m
"Prelude to Act I" from Lohengrin by Richard Wagner: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqk4bcnBqls
"Girl in Translation" by Jean Kwok: https://www.amazon.com/Girl-Translation-Jean-Kwok/dp/1594485151

Jun 4, 2018 • 1h 1min
Ep. 29: Black Market Adoption
Sunny J. Reed, an emerging adoption writer, mom, and transracial adoptee joins Mark on the podcast to discuss an important aspect of the Adoption issue, re-homing. Re-homing is a term used to describe the act of returning a child to an adoption agency or between two private parties. In America, hundreds if not thousands of private re-homings occur with no oversight and facilitated by Internet message boards on sites like Yahoo and Facebook.
Intro Song: "You're All I Need" by Method Man
Intro Voice Track: Planet of the Apes (1968)
TWITTER
Sunny (@SunnyJWriter)
Mark (@snbatman)
REFERENCED RESOURCES
White or Other: Who Do Transracial Adoptees Pick as Partners?: https://planamag.com/white-or-other-who-do-transracial-adoptees-pick-as-partners-ff3825d240f7
Dear White Woman Who Returned Her Adopted Children: https://medium.com/@sunnyjreed/dear-white-woman-who-returned-her-adopted-children-7924528368a2
In response to those who support returning adopted kids: https://medium.com/@sunnyjreed/in-response-to-those-who-support-returning-adopted-kids-223be8e0a1f8
The Child Exchange - Inside America's underground market for adopted children: https://www.reuters.com/investigates/adoption/#article/

May 28, 2018 • 59min
Ep. 28: BTS and K-Pop's Impact on Asian American Guys
With BTS accelerating the mainstream-ization of K-pop in America, the ever-popular question among Asian American guys becomes more pertinent: is K-pop good for the beleaguered Asian male image in America? Oxford, Jong, and Q join forces to talk about breaking free of traditionalist American masculine norms and the importance of Asian Americans to be in touch with what's going on in Asian pop culture.
CORRECTION: IU collaborated with Seo Taiji, not Tablo, on the song "Sogyeokdong".
Intro/Outro Music: "Spring Day" by BTS
Intro Voice Track: "South Korea: An Inside Look at the K-pop Wave" from France 24 English
TWITTER:
Oxford (@oxford_kondo)
Jong (@calicoarse)
Q (allyouneedis_q)
REFERENCED RESOURCES:
History Lessons: Who Said BTS Was The Next Big Thing? by Christina Qiu: https://planamag.com/history-lessons-who-said-bts-was-the-next-big-thing-cff587c3b6a6
Jimmy Kimmel and BTS Fans - Behind the Scenes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pudAh8UZaE&t=89s
Q's Recommendations: "The Three Body Problem" by Liu Cixin, GOT7, Wanna One, Twice, Blackpink
Oxford's Recommendations: IU ("Sogyeokdong"), Reply 1988
Jong's Recommendations: Giriboy, Ash-B, Nada, KillaGramz, Groovy Room, Epik High, C Jamm, Junoflo, DPR Live, Nafla, Black Nut, PH-1, Hash Swan, B-Free, Okasion, Reddy, Beenzino, BewhY, Dok2
K-Dramas Mentioned: Autumn In My Heart, Full House, I Hear Your Voice, Reply 1994, Reply 1997

May 20, 2018 • 59min
Ep. 27: Schneiderman, Trump, and Weinstein are the White Male Centipede
A couple of weeks ago, New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman was brought down by the fact that he was a disgusting and abusive scumbag to women, all the while presenting himself as a progressive feminist champion. In the #MeToo era, this kind of hypocrisy is no longer surprising. Along with Trump and Weinstein, Schneiderman is the latest mortal wound to the idea of white benevolence, especially white male benevolence. Teen, Oxford, and Mark talk about how this has freed Asian Americans to develop our own unique political and cultural viewpoints.
Intro Voice Track: "Girl at a Bar" from Saturday Night Live
Outro Music: "Harry Lime Theme" by Anton Karas from The Third Man (1949, dir. by Carol Reed)
Outro Voice Track: Eric Schneiderman talking about Weinstein investigation
TWITTER:
Teen (@mont_jiang)
Mark (@snbatman)
Oxford (@oxford_kondo)
REFERENCED RESOURCES:
Why Has The #MeToo Movement Spared Woody Allen?: http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-farrow-woody-allen-me-too-20171207-story.html
Four Women Accuse New York's Attorney General of Physical Abuse: https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/four-women-accuse-new-yorks-attorney-general-of-physical-abuse
Korea? It's Always Really Been About China!: https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/09/22/korea-its-always-really-been-about-china/
Asian Fetish Or "Yellow Fever" Is Causing A Stir At NYU: https://t.co/uJMp95aPVq
The Alt-Right's Asian Fetish: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/06/opinion/sunday/alt-right-asian-fetish.html
Yellow Fever: https://thenewinquiry.com/yellow-fever/
Podesta emails re Asians: https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/16031
#AsianReadingList: https://twitter.com/search?q=%23AsianReadingList&src=typd
Did Trump Kill "Master of None"?: https://planamag.com/master-of-nones-failed-liberalism-a-chance-for-asian-american-progress-21ac11c50a69
What If Asian American Men Fall To The Alt-Right?: https://planamag.com/what-if-asian-american-men-fall-to-the-alt-right-3b392495786
Menelaus vs Paris from "Troy": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eS9kqq6PNnQ
"The Shock Doctrine" by Naomi Klein: https://www.amazon.com/Shock-Doctrine-Rise-Disaster-Capitalism/dp/0312427999
"Orientalism" by Edward Said: https://www.amazon.com/Orientalism-Edward-W-Said/dp/039474067X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1526858459&sr=1-1&keywords=orientalism
"The Big Aiiieeeee!" (includes "Come All Ye Asian American Writers of the Real and the Fake") by Frank Chin: https://www.amazon.com/Big-Aiiieeeee-Frank-Chin/dp/0452010764/ref=sr_1_8?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1526858427&sr=1-8&keywords=frank+chin
"The Bonfire of the Vanities" by Tom Wolfe: https://www.amazon.com/Bonfire-Vanities-Tom-Wolfe/dp/0312427573
"I Am Charlotte Simmons" by Tom Wolfe: https://www.amazon.com/I-Am-Charlotte-Simmons-Novel/dp/0312424442
Champagne Sharks episode with Kenyan sex trade segment in intro: https://soundcloud.com/champagnesharks/cs-087-the-throwaway-people-pt-3-04032018

May 13, 2018 • 58min
Ep. 26: Why Do People Get So Angry About Cultural Appropriation?
It seems that every few months, a new incident occurs where the fiery debate over cultural appropriation is sparked again. What exactly is at the heart of this very emotional issue? Is it a fear of being replaced? Is it a fear of losing ownership of culture? Is it resentment at having feelings ignored? Is there a profit motive involved? Is there a gendered response, especially when beauty is involved? Eliza, Oxford, and Christina examine these questions in recent flare-ups about qipaos, music, food, and more.
Intro/Outro Music: "Karma Chameleon (Instrumental)" by Culture Club
Intro/Outro Voice Track: David Chang in "Ugly Delicious" Ep. 6 (Fried Chicken)
TWITTER:
Eliza (@aesthdistance1)
Oxford (@oxford_kondo)
REFERENCED RESOURCES:
"Every Culture Appropriates" by David Frum: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/05/cultural-appropriation/559802/
"Jeremy Lin’s Dreads And Kenyon Martin’s Chinese Tattoo Are A False Equivalency" by Jessica Prois and Lilly Workneh: https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/jeremy-lin-kenyon-martin_us_59dce0d9e4b0208970d00545
"The Dos and Don'ts of Cultural Appropriation" by Jenny Avins: https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2015/10/the-dos-and-donts-of-cultural-appropriation/411292/