

The CITIUS MAG Podcast | A Running + Track and Field Show
CITIUS MAG
Track and field's biggest names on the track, in the coaching ranks and within the industry sit down and open up in-depth to share brilliant insights and vivid snapshots from their professional/personal accomplishments and experiences in the sport.
Hosted by CITIUS MAG founder Chris Chavez.
The show was named one of "The Best Running Podcasts" by Runner's World.
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Hosted by CITIUS MAG founder Chris Chavez.
The show was named one of "The Best Running Podcasts" by Runner's World.
▶ Visit https://CITIUSMAG.com
▶ Twitter: https://twitter.com/CitiusMag
▶ Instagram: https://instagram.com/citiusmag
▶ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/CitiusMag
▶ Patreon: https://patreon.com/citiusmag
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Mar 10, 2023 • 1h 10min
Reliving The High School Glory Days With Trayvon Bromell, Heather McLean | New Balance Nationals Pre-Race Show
We kicked off our coverage at the 2023 New Balance Nationals by hanging out with 100m World Championship bronze medalist Trayvon Bromell and U.S. Indoor 1500m champion + fellow U.S. Olympian Heather McLean to reflect on their own high school careers. We also touched on their mindset practices before major competitions, track and field fashion, luxury watch sponsors, high school rivals and much more. We close it out by breaking down some of the most exciting high school athletes to watch and their events.
You can watch this conversation on the CITIUS MAG YouTube channel >> https://www.youtube.com/live/ntXr7lgwHcI?feature=share
We’re excited to partner with New Balance to be a part of this weekend’s festivities as the meet is held at The TRACK at New Balance for the first time. More than 5,000 of the nation’s best high school athletes will also be making the trip to Boston.
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Mar 8, 2023 • 1h 26min
NCAA INDOOR TRACK AND FIELD CHAMPIONSHIP PREVIEW
The 2023 NCAA Indoor Track and Field Championships return to the Albuquerque Convention Center for the first time since teams arrived in New Mexico in March 2020 before the meet was canceled due to the coronavirus. The meet will be held on March 10-11. Live coverage of the NCAA Indoor Track and Field Championships will be available with a subscription to ESPN+.
In this episode of the podcast, Katelyn Hutchison and Isaac Wood join Chris Chavez to break down all of the sprint and distance races being held. There is no shortage of star power at this meet with Katelyn Tuohy, Talitha Diggs, Elija Godwin, Julien Alfred, Anass Essayi, Jasmine Moore and others set to compete.
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NEW BALANCE: You push yourself to go the distance – get the gear that helps you get the job done. Our FuelCell SuperComp Elite v3 men’s running shoes are built for marathon runners who never let up. Get your pair at NewBalance.com starting Feb. 1.
VELOUS FOOTWEAR: VELOUS is an active recovery footwear brand designed to help you restore, revive & Reenergize before and after you train. Two years in development, this team has created the world's most comfortable, supportive and lightweight active recovery shoe in the world. Get 20% off using code CitiusMag20.
VDOT Adaptive Trainer: VDOT offers access to the highest quality, Olympic-style training for runners of all levels—right from any mobile device. VDOT is offering 20% off their Adaptive Trainer using the code citius at checkout. Download V.O2 in the app stores or visit vdoto2.com.
HOW TO SUPPORT THE PODCAST
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Mar 6, 2023 • 1h 34min
Hannah Borenstein On Sharing The Untold Stories Of Ethiopian Runners
"At the end of those two months, I interviewed (two Ethiopian female runners) each of them for an hour and a half and hired a translator. What came out of those interviews was that this was a richly complicated and complex world that I knew very little about and I had barely scratched the surface. They were talking about the relationships with their family members because I had assumed – as a lot of people do – Ethiopia has this rich history of running, therefore, it must be such a prideful thing. It actually turned out that they all said that all their family members disapproved of what they were doing. There were all these things that came up that surprised me. As I later came to learn in anthropology in grad school, you should always follow and ask questions about the things that surprise you because those are the most interesting things."
Hannah Borenstein is a good friend of mine who I've had the pleasure of getting to know as a member of The Magic Boost program that I help direct. She is an anthropologist and fellow at the University of Chicago. She's currently working on a book project focusing on women distance runners in Ethiopia. Beyond her academic work, she's also a freelance writer covering race, sports, gender, politics and labor across a variety of publications. She most recently published a story for World Athletics on Sinta Vissa, the Italian middle distance runner who was born in Ethiopia and now runs for the On Athletics Club. I've wanted to get her on the show for a while because she's passionate about telling the stories of Ethiopian athletes and has been a major resource for me in helping me understand some of the contexts around the athletes, their lives and when politics can intersect with it all.
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OLIPOP is a prebiotic soda with only 2-5g of sugar that is actually good for your gut health. – and it's delicious. Use code CITIUS25 for 25% off non-subscription orders. Learn more at DrinkOlipop.com (click the link or use our promotional code for the discount)
NEW BALANCE: You push yourself to go the distance – get the gear that helps you get the job done. Our FuelCell SuperComp Elite v3 men’s running shoes are built for marathon runners who never let up. Get your pair at NewBalance.com starting Feb. 1.
VELOUS FOOTWEAR: VELOUS is an active recovery footwear brand designed to help you restore, revive & Reenergize before and after you train. Two years in development, this team has created the world's most comfortable, supportive and lightweight active recovery shoe in the world. Get 20% off using code CitiusMag20.
VDOT Adaptive Trainer: VDOT offers access to the highest quality, Olympic-style training for runners of all levels—right from any mobile device. VDOT is offering 20% off their Adaptive Trainer using the code citius at checkout. Download V.O2 in the app stores or visit vdoto2.com.
HOW TO SUPPORT THE PODCAST
🎙️ Subscribe and leave a review on Apple Podcasts.
💵 Pledge any dollar amount to us on Patreon.com/CITIUSMAG or Hit us on Venmo @CITIUSMAG
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Mar 2, 2023 • 50min
This Week In Track and Field: Mondo Duplantis Breaks His Own World Record A Sixth Time, Talitha Diggs Goes 50.15 Indoors, The Evolution Of The NCAA 1500/Mile
On this week’s show, Chris Chavez and Mac Fleet recap all the latest news in the track and field world. The World Indoor Tour came to an end in Birmingham with some record-setting performances, Mondo Duplantis broke his own world record for a sixth time, Talitha Diggs didn’t just settle for an NCAA record but ran the fastest-ever 400m race indoors by an American plus a few solid races took place in Boston.
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OLIPOP is a prebiotic soda with only 2-5g of sugar that is actually good for your gut health. – and it's delicious. Use code CITIUS25 for 25% off non-subscription orders. Learn more at DrinkOlipop.com (click the link or use our promotional code for the discount)
NEW BALANCE: You push yourself to go the distance – get the gear that helps you get the job done. Our FuelCell SuperComp Elite v3 men’s running shoes are built for marathon runners who never let up. Get your pair at NewBalance.com starting Feb. 1.
VELOUS FOOTWEAR: VELOUS is an active recovery footwear brand designed to help you restore, revive & Reenergize before and after you train. Two years in development, this team has created the world's most comfortable, supportive and lightweight active recovery shoe in the world. Get 20% off using code CitiusMag20.
HOW TO SUPPORT THE PODCAST
🎙️ Subscribe and leave a review on Apple Podcasts.
💵 Pledge any dollar amount to us on Patreon.com/CITIUSMAG or Hit us on Venmo @CITIUSMAG
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Feb 28, 2023 • 1h 10min
Ken Rideout On Battling Tough Circumstances, Overcoming Addiction To Become A Top Masters Marathoner
My guest for this episode is Ken Rideout, one of the world's fastest marathoners over the age of 50. Ken's impressive physique and relentless mindset make him stand out in the marathon world. His story is one of battling tough circumstances and overcoming addiction to become a top master athlete. He was just featured in the Wall Street Journal last week and was a hit guest on the Rich Roll Podcast last year.
Growing up in a troubled home in a tough suburb of Boston, Ken watched his stepfather and brother go to prison. As a teen, he worked as a prison guard and vowed he wouldn't end up behind bars. However, he struggled with imposter syndrome in his finance career and turned to opioids for a time. Eventually, he turned to running as a way to cope and has become hooked on the sport.
Ken's training routine is unorthodox – you can easily see for yourself on his Strava page. His dedication to his craft has paid off, as he has won the 50-and-over division at two of the six Abbott World Marathon Majors and hopes to continue his success at the Tokyo Marathon this weekend.
Join us as we delve deeper into Ken's journey, his training routine and his mindset that has made him a champion in the marathon world.
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OLIPOP is a prebiotic soda with only 2-5g of sugar that is actually good for your gut health. – and it's delicious. Use code CITIUS25 for 25% off non-subscription orders. Learn more at DrinkOlipop.com (click the link or use our promotional code for the discount)
NEW BALANCE: You push yourself to go the distance – get the gear that helps you get the job done. Our FuelCell SuperComp Elite v3 men’s running shoes are built for marathon runners who never let up. Get your pair at NewBalance.com starting Feb. 1.
VELOUS FOOTWEAR: VELOUS is an active recovery footwear brand designed to help you restore, revive & Reenergize before and after you train. Two years in development, this team has created the world's most comfortable, supportive and lightweight active recovery shoe in the world. Get 20% off using code CitiusMag20.
HOW TO SUPPORT THE PODCAST
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Feb 23, 2023 • 54min
This Week In Track & Field: U.S. Indoor Championships Recap, Ryan Crouser & Femke Bol Break World Records + Fred Kerley Leaves Nike For Asics
On this week’s show, we touch on the weekend of racing at the U.S. Indoor Track and Field Championships, World Cross Country Championships. We also saw a pair of world records fall with Ryan Crouser and Femke Bol. We also discuss 100m world champion Fred Kerley leaving Nike and signing with Asics.
U.S. Indoor Championships + World Cross Country Championships
Who were the biggest winners and performers at the 2023 World Cross Country Championships in Australia and USATF Indoor Track and Field Championships in Albuquerque? We break it all down for you.
Ryan Crouser World Record
Olympic champion Ryan Crouser launched the farthest shot put throw in history. He tossed it 23.38 meters (76 feet, 8 1/2 inches) at a high school meet in Idaho. Crouser threw farther than his indoor world record from 2021 (22.82) and his outdoor world record from 2021 (23.37).
Femke Bol Indoor 400m World Record
The longest-standing track world record fell. Femke Bol broke a 41-year-old world record when she went 49.26 at the Dutch Indoor Championships. The previous record was helf by Czech Jarmila Kratochvilova‘s world record of 49.59 from March 1982. What's this mean for Sydney McLaughlin vs. Femke Bol?
Fred Kerley Signs With Asics
World champion and Olympic medallist Fred Kerley announced that he has signed with Asics. What are our impressions of the deal and Asics' foray into the sprints?
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NEW BALANCE: You push yourself to go the distance – get the gear that helps you get the job done. Our FuelCell SuperComp Elite v3 men’s running shoes are built for marathon runners who never let up. Get your pair at NewBalance.com starting Feb. 1.
VELOUS FOOTWEAR: VELOUS is an active recovery footwear brand designed to help you restore, revive & Reenergize before and after you train. Two years in development, this team has created the world's most comfortable, supportive and lightweight active recovery shoe in the world. Get 20% off using code CitiusMag20.
GOODR: Say goodbye to activewear sunglasses that don't stay in place, and upgrade to Goodr's 100% polarized, stylish and affordable $25 active sunglasses. Visit goodr.com/CITIUS for FREE SHIPPING and to check out all their styles.
HOW TO SUPPORT THE PODCAST
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Feb 21, 2023 • 51min
Michael Norman On Overcoming Olympic Disappointment To Become 400m World Champion
Michael Norman is the world champion at 400 meters and he just made headlines last week as he told NBC that in 2023, he will be focusing on the 100 meters. As the defending gold medalist, he’s got his spot secured for the World Championships in Budapest so I am here for his experiment. He’s run 9.86 for 100 meters, 19.70 for 200 meters and his 43.45 personal best for 400m makes him the fourth-fastest man in history. He is just 25 years old so there is tons of potential to be excited about. In this episode, I appreciated his honesty in talking about the disappointment of finishing 5th at the Tokyo Olympics, how he overcame that to win gold last year and what it’s going to take to get even faster and stay on top. Mike is a big Formula1 fan so we also had some fun talking about that, why I need him to start a podcast with Rai Benjamin and much more.
SUPPORT THE SPONSORS
OLIPOP is a prebiotic soda with only 2-5g of sugar that is actually good for your gut health. – and it's delicious. Use code CITIUS25 for 25% off non-subscription orders. Learn more at DrinkOlipop.com (click the link or use our promotional code for the discount)
NEW BALANCE: You push yourself to go the distance – get the gear that helps you get the job done. Our FuelCell SuperComp Elite v3 men’s running shoes are built for marathon runners who never let up. Get your pair at NewBalance.com starting Feb. 1.
VELOUS FOOTWEAR: VELOUS is an active recovery footwear brand designed to help you restore, revive & Reenergize before and after you train. Two years in development, this team has created the world's most comfortable, supportive and lightweight active recovery shoe in the world. Get 20% off using code CitiusMag20.
GOODR: Say goodbye to activewear sunglasses that don't stay in place, and upgrade to Goodr's 100% polarized, stylish and affordable $25 active sunglasses. Visit goodr.com/CITIUS for FREE SHIPPING and to check out all their styles.
HOW TO SUPPORT THE PODCAST
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Feb 16, 2023 • 1h 8min
This Week In Track and Field: World Leading Times in Lievin; U.S. Indoor Championship Preview + World Cross Country Championships Preview
On this week’s show, we had some fast times thrown down in Lievin, France where we saw several world-leading performances and a world record. We’re going to spend much of our time previewing the USATF Indoor Championships and the World Cross Country Championships this weekend.
Lievin World Indoor Tour: Lamecha Girma broke the indoor 3000m record with a 7:23.81; Meet records fell at the hands of Karsten Warholm, Keely Hodgkinson and Femke Bol. Jakob Ingebrigtsen is paying attention to the American stars now but says, 'I'm still the best.'
USATF Indoor Championships: Many of the top stars are absent from this meet since there is no World Indoor Championships this year. Noah Lyles is still the premier star showing up for the men's 60m. Major props to the likes of Aleia Hobbs, Anna Hall, Whittni Morgan, Cole Hocker, Clayton Murphy, Bryce Hoppel and others for contesting the meet.
World Cross Country Championships: The race will be held in Mount Panorama Circuit in Australia. If you want to watch, tune in on Friday, Feb. 17, at 11:30 p.m. ET on Peacock. It’s a 2K loop. People will be running through a vineyard at times. Possibly some kangaroo sightings. Very hot conditions. Should be spicy with Joshua Cheptegei, Selemon Barega, Letesenbet Gidey and Francine Niyonsaba among the stars competing.
+ our Buy or Sell segment...
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OLIPOP is a prebiotic soda with only 2-5g of sugar that is actually good for your gut health. – and it's delicious. Use code CITIUS25 for 25% off non-subscription orders. Learn more at DrinkOlipop.com (click the link or use our promotional code for the discount)
NEW BALANCE: You push yourself to go the distance – get the gear that helps you get the job done. Our FuelCell SuperComp Elite v3 men’s running shoes are built for marathon runners who never let up. Get your pair at NewBalance.com starting Feb. 1.
VELOUS FOOTWEAR: VELOUS is an active recovery footwear brand designed to help you restore, revive & Reenergize before and after you train. Two years in development, this team has created the world's most comfortable, supportive and lightweight active recovery shoe in the world. Get 20% off using code CitiusMag20.
GOODR: Say goodbye to activewear sunglasses that don't stay in place, and upgrade to Goodr's 100% polarized, stylish and affordable $25 active sunglasses. Visit goodr.com/CITIUS for FREE SHIPPING and to check out all their styles.
HOW TO SUPPORT THE PODCAST
🎙️ Subscribe and leave a review on Apple Podcasts.
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Feb 14, 2023 • 37min
English Gardner Is A Fighter | Behind Her Career Battling Depression, Injuries, Homelessness
"It has always been an uphill battle with me for track and field but it's shown me that anything that I really want to do, I have the ability to do. From all these obstacles that I've had, I've never really seen it as an opportunity to quit this thing. A lot of people tell me, 'You've been through so much. Why don't you just hang it up? You've gone to the Olympics. You've brought home two medals. You've been top 10 all-time in your sport. You've done enough.' I'm addicted to it. Until that burning desire goes away, I'm gonna continue to run and be the fighter that I am."
English Gardner is a two-time Olympian and has two Olympic medals from the 4x100m relay including gold from the Summer Games in Rio in 2016. She has two World Championship silver medals in the relay as well. She is a two-time U.S. champion and her personal best of 10.74 puts her at No. 10 on the all-time world list and No. 5 on the all-time U.S. list for the event. The New Jersey native really popped off nationally as a star at the University of Oregon, where she won five NCAA titles. Over the past decade, she has defied the odds and fought to remain atop the sport. The journey has included injuries, COVID, depression, anxiety, homelessness as a high schooler, family cancer battles and much more. I’ve been a fan of English for years because of the beast she unleashes on the track and I’m so glad we finally got to sit down and chat for the podcast.
SUPPORT THE SPONSORS
OLIPOP is a prebiotic soda with only 2-5g of sugar that is actually good for your gut health. – and it's delicious. Use code CITIUS25 for 25% off non-subscription orders. Learn more at DrinkOlipop.com (click the link or use our promotional code for the discount)
NEW BALANCE: You push yourself to go the distance – get the gear that helps you get the job done. Our FuelCell SuperComp Elite v3 men’s running shoes are built for marathon runners who never let up. Get your pair at NewBalance.com starting Feb. 1.
VELOUS FOOTWEAR: VELOUS is an active recovery footwear brand designed to help you restore, revive & Reenergize before and after you train. Two years in development, this team has created the world's most comfortable, supportive and lightweight active recovery shoe in the world. Get 20% off using code CitiusMag20.
GOODR: Say goodbye to activewear sunglasses that don't stay in place, and upgrade to Goodr's 100% polarized, stylish and affordable $25 active sunglasses. Visit goodr.com/CITIUS for FREE SHIPPING and to check out all their styles.
HOW TO SUPPORT THE PODCAST
🎙️ Subscribe and leave a review on Apple Podcasts.
💵 Pledge any dollar amount to us on Patreon.com/CITIUSMAG or Hit us on Venmo @CITIUSMAG
🎥 Subscribe to the CITIUS MAG YouTube channel

Feb 12, 2023 • 1h 8min
AFTER THE FINAL LAP: MILLROSE GAMES (Ft. Josh Kerr After Running 7:33 For 3000m)
Chris Chavez, Kyle Merber and Katelyn Hutchison bring you our post-race show LIVE from the Armory Track and Field Center for the Millrose Games!
We break down ALL the races that took place + an interview with Josh Kerr after he blasted a 7:33 for the win in the men's 3000m. You can also watch the show on our YouTube channel.
SUPPORT THE SPONSORS
OLIPOP is a prebiotic soda with only 2-5g of sugar that is actually good for your gut health. – and it's delicious. Use code CITIUS25 for 25% off non-subscription orders. Learn more at DrinkOlipop.com (click the link or use our promotional code for the discount)
NEW BALANCE: You push yourself to go the distance – get the gear that helps you get the job done. Our FuelCell SuperComp Elite v3 men’s running shoes are built for marathon runners who never let up. Get your pair at NewBalance.com starting Feb. 1.
VELOUS FOOTWEAR: VELOUS is an active recovery footwear brand designed to help you restore, revive & Reenergize before and after you train. Two years in development, this team has created the world's most comfortable, supportive and lightweight active recovery shoe in the world. Get 20% off using code CitiusMag20.
GOODR: Say goodbye to activewear sunglasses that don't stay in place, and upgrade to Goodr's 100% polarized, stylish and affordable $25 active sunglasses. Visit goodr.com/CITIUS for FREE SHIPPING and to check out all their styles.