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“I think it's fundamental that we figure out a way of doing this. I think it's absolutely wrong and unfair that those who are about to leave this Earth are the ones making decisions for those staying on Earth. That doesn't make any sense. So, how do we do it? I am not the right person for doing policy. I'm a systems thinker, so I think about systems, but how we implement the policy for that, I don't know. I do know that philosophically we must include everyone who shares this planet with us in the decision-making process.It starts with different levels. It starts with how you react when you read something. It starts with each of us personally, how we behave and how we act on social media, and educating ourselves on misinformation and disinformation tactics to be able to see them and not be part of that hyper-reactionary movement where everything is like a disaster, or we react every time we feel like offended by everything.So I think this is like the same as it has been forever. This is not new. Centuries and centuries ago we had the same challenges. This all starts with how you behave. And so I think it starts there.And then I would say there are a lot of really good tooling that we can still use. If you remember, your generation has been so good at using tooling to hack and troll governments and politicians. And I am in awe. I mean, talk about hack the system. You are like the new Anonymous, and I love that. Like I am right there with you. I don't even use TikTok, but if you want me to use TikTok for something, I will. So just keep using social media to troll the trolls. I think that is a very important thing that you can do and occupy that space. And then lastly, build alternatives and support alternatives. We have distributed social media projects. We have New_ Public, which is this amazing group in the United States that is like designing public spaces and rethinking digital spaces and they're incredible. Support those projects. Support everyone who's building distributed mesh infrastructure. If there's a generation that is multiplayer, it is you guys. And so you need to play in all these different games at the same time and build the alternative while you are using whatever you have at your hands to make sure that we are pushing for our agenda.”Pia Mancini is a democracy activist, political scientist, open source sustainer, co-founder & CEO at Open Collective and Chair of DemocracyEarth Foundation. She has worked in politics in Argentina as the Chief of Advisers and Deputy Secretary of Political Affairs, Government of the City of Buenos Aires and CIPPEC think tank. She has developed technology for democracy around the world and is a YC Alum, Young Global Leaders (World Economic Forum). She co-founded DemocracyOS & The Net Party (Partido de la Red).www.piamancini.comhttps://opencollective.comhttps://democracy.earthwww.creativeprocess.info www.oneplanetpodcast.orgIG www.instagram.com/creativeprocesspodcast

Pia Mancini is a democracy activist, political scientist, open source sustainer, co-founder & CEO at Open Collective and Chair of DemocracyEarth Foundation. She has worked in politics in Argentina as the Chief of Advisers and Deputy Secretary of Political Affairs, Government of the City of Buenos Aires and CIPPEC think tank. She has developed technology for democracy around the world and is a YC Alum, Young Global Leaders (World Economic Forum). She co-founded DemocracyOS & The Net Party (Partido de la Red).“I think it's fundamental that we figure out a way of doing this. I think it's absolutely wrong and unfair that those who are about to leave this Earth are the ones making decisions for those staying on Earth. That doesn't make any sense. So, how do we do it? I am not the right person for doing policy. I'm a systems thinker, so I think about systems, but how we implement the policy for that, I don't know. I do know that philosophically we must include everyone who shares this planet with us in the decision-making process.It starts with different levels. It starts with how you react when you read something. It starts with each of us personally, how we behave and how we act on social media, and educating ourselves on misinformation and disinformation tactics to be able to see them and not be part of that hyper-reactionary movement where everything is like a disaster, or we react every time we feel like offended by everything.So I think this is like the same as it has been forever. This is not new. Centuries and centuries ago we had the same challenges. This all starts with how you behave. And so I think it starts there.And then I would say there are a lot of really good tooling that we can still use. If you remember, your generation has been so good at using tooling to hack and troll governments and politicians. And I am in awe. I mean, talk about hack the system. You are like the new Anonymous, and I love that. Like I am right there with you. I don't even use TikTok, but if you want me to use TikTok for something, I will. So just keep using social media to troll the trolls. I think that is a very important thing that you can do and occupy that space. And then lastly, build alternatives and support alternatives. We have distributed social media projects. We have New_ Public, which is this amazing group in the United States that is like designing public spaces and rethinking digital spaces and they're incredible. Support those projects. Support everyone who's building distributed mesh infrastructure. If there's a generation that is multiplayer, it is you guys. And so you need to play in all these different games at the same time and build the alternative while you are using whatever you have at your hands to make sure that we are pushing for our agenda.”www.piamancini.comhttps://opencollective.comhttps://democracy.earthwww.creativeprocess.info www.oneplanetpodcast.orgIG www.instagram.com/creativeprocesspodcast

“We should all learn to be sustainable in our daily life and find the beauty in what proves to be sustainable. And we really need to start shifting our way of looking at things because sometimes sustainability, which is a priority right now, doesn't really coincide with let's say the cheapest solution or the best economical solution. But we have to decide our priorities. So the priority now is sustainability. We have to start to think about that. If I think back to the most recent winners of the Pritzker Architecture Prize, I can see a lot of really groundbreaking innovative practices being brought to the forefront.We are living in a world that is extremely complex and complicated. So our lives have been halted, regardless of any geography, as a result of growing inequality (political, social, economical), and so on. We live now in a moment of deep shift. And I think that decolonization, decarbonization, social and environmental injustice, and gender equity, these are all terms that belong to daily vocabulary now. So we have to face and address these issues from both a personal and professional point of view, whatever our profession is.”Manuela Lucá-Dazio is the newly appointed Executive Director of the Pritzker Architecture Prize. In this capacity, she works closely with the jury, however, she does not vote in the proceedings. She is the former Executive Director, Department of Visual Arts and Architecture of La Biennale di Venezia, where she managed exhibitions with distinguished curators, architects, artists, and critics to realize the International Art Exhibition and the International Architecture Exhibition, each edition since 2009. Preceding that, she was responsible for the technical organization and production of both Exhibitions, beginning in 1999. She holds a PhD in History of Architecture from the University of Roma-Chieti, Italy and lives in Paris, France.www.pritzkerprize.com www.pritzkerprize.com/jury#jury-node-2236 www.labiennale.org/enwww.creativeprocess.info www.oneplanetpodcast.org IG www.instagram.com/creativeprocesspodcast

Manuela Lucá-Dazio is the newly appointed Executive Director of the Pritzker Architecture Prize. In this capacity, she works closely with the jury, however, she does not vote in the proceedings. She is the former Executive Director, Department of Visual Arts and Architecture of La Biennale di Venezia, where she managed exhibitions with distinguished curators, architects, artists, and critics to realize the International Art Exhibition and the International Architecture Exhibition, each edition since 2009. Preceding that, she was responsible for the technical organization and production of both Exhibitions, beginning in 1999. She holds a PhD in History of Architecture from the University of Roma-Chieti, Italy and lives in Paris, France.“We should all learn to be sustainable in our daily life and find the beauty in what proves to be sustainable. And we really need to start shifting our way of looking at things because sometimes sustainability, which is a priority right now, doesn't really coincide with let's say the cheapest solution or the best economical solution. But we have to decide our priorities. So the priority now is sustainability. We have to start to think about that. If I think back to the most recent winners of the Pritzker Architecture Prize, I can see a lot of really groundbreaking innovative practices being brought to the forefront.We are living in a world that is extremely complex and complicated. So our lives have been halted, regardless of any geography, as a result of growing inequality (political, social, economical), and so on. We live now in a moment of deep shift. And I think that decolonization, decarbonization, social and environmental injustice, and gender equity, these are all terms that belong to daily vocabulary now. So we have to face and address these issues from both a personal and professional point of view, whatever our profession is.”www.pritzkerprize.com www.pritzkerprize.com/jury#jury-node-2236 www.labiennale.org/enPhoto credit: Anselm Kieferwww.creativeprocess.info www.oneplanetpodcast.org IG www.instagram.com/creativeprocesspodcast

“This raises a larger point that, even as we move to advanced technology, there's still this problem that 80% of the world's energy today is coming from fossil fuels from oil, gas, and coal. So what do you do in the meantime? Because every molecule we put into the atmosphere of carbon is going to be around for another 50 or 100 years. The warming impact will be with us. So turning the spigot down, so to speak, really quickly is also important. The long-range is important, but what do we do in the meantime while we're still very fossil fuel dependent?And then capturing as much carbon as we can, while we're developing renewable strategies. In the meantime, let's take the industrial facilities that are the big emitters, the steel plants, the cement plants, and the plastics plants. Let's put some carbon capture on the back end where we can. it's not cheap, but it is doable and it's doable fairly quickly.It's a hard thing for people to accept that you have to be doing some damage control, even as you're working on long-term solutions. But I'm afraid that it's a complex and big problem. So we have to think of it as first aid before you do the surgery.”Armond Cohen is Executive Director of Clean Air Task Force, which he has led since its formation in 1996. In addition to leading CATF, Armond is directly involved in CATF research and advocacy on the topic of requirements to deeply decarbonize global energy systems. Prior to his work with CATF, Armond founded and led the Conservation Law Foundation’s Energy Project starting in 1983, focusing on energy efficiency, utility resource planning, and electric industry structure. Armond has published numerous articles on climate change, energy system transformation, and air pollution; he speaks, writes, and testifies frequently on these topics. He is a board member of the Nuclear Innovation Alliance and an honors graduate of Harvard Law School and Brown University.www.catf.uswww.creativeprocess.info www.oneplanetpodcast.orgIG www.instagram.com/creativeprocesspodcast

Armond Cohen is Executive Director of Clean Air Task Force, which he has led since its formation in 1996. In addition to leading CATF, Armond is directly involved in CATF research and advocacy on the topic of requirements to deeply decarbonize global energy systems. Prior to his work with CATF, Armond founded and led the Conservation Law Foundation’s Energy Project starting in 1983, focusing on energy efficiency, utility resource planning, and electric industry structure. Armond has published numerous articles on climate change, energy system transformation, and air pollution; he speaks, writes, and testifies frequently on these topics. He is a board member of the Nuclear Innovation Alliance and an honors graduate of Harvard Law School and Brown University.“This raises a larger point that, even as we move to advanced technology, there's still this problem that 80% of the world's energy today is coming from fossil fuels from oil, gas, and coal. So what do you do in the meantime? Because every molecule we put into the atmosphere of carbon is going to be around for another 50 or 100 years. The warming impact will be with us. So turning the spigot down, so to speak, really quickly is also important. The long-range is important, but what do we do in the meantime while we're still very fossil fuel dependent?And then capturing as much carbon as we can, while we're developing renewable strategies. In the meantime, let's take the industrial facilities that are the big emitters, the steel plants, the cement plants, and the plastics plants. Let's put some carbon capture on the back end where we can. it's not cheap, but it is doable and it's doable fairly quickly.It's a hard thing for people to accept that you have to be doing some damage control, even as you're working on long-term solutions. But I'm afraid that it's a complex and big problem. So we have to think of it as first aid before you do the surgery.”www.catf.uswww.creativeprocess.info www.oneplanetpodcast.orgIG www.instagram.com/creativeprocesspodcast

Professor Lisa Jackson Pulver is a proud Aboriginal woman with connections to communities in southwestern New South Wales, South Australia, and beyond. She is the Deputy Vice-Chancellor of Indigenous Strategy and Services for the University of Sydney and leads the institution's strategy to advance Indigenous participation, engagement, education, and research, including the university's One Sydney, Many People 2021-2024 strategy.She is a recognized expert and tireless advocate for health and education. Her research focuses on capacity building for healthcare workers and improved health for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people. She serves her country in the Royal Australian Air Force Specialist Reserve as a Group Captain and is a member of the Australian Statistical Advisory Committee, the Australian Medical Council, and the Health Performance Council of South Australia."And you look at your continents where you live as well, and you see exactly the same thing. Yet at the same time, we are getting pressured strongly to dig up more pristine land and pollute water sources for this thing called gas, or this thing called coal. These fossil fuels that are going out of favor and won't be around in 30, 40, 50 years.Because we would've grown a brain by then and done something quite different to resource our hungry needs of energy. But when you look at the cost of that, our world is going to take millennia to regenerate again. and it's going to take a real concerted effort for us to be careful about feral species, to be careful about weeds, about monocultures, to recognize that if we don't have diversity in our biosphere, we have got absolutely no chance of surviving.I'll put it in a slightly different way. Aboriginal people have been on this land for at least 60,000 years, through some will say it's the oldest continuing culture on the planet. People have been here in the most the driest continent on Earth, in some of the most extreme conditions on Earth through all that time and have survived. And not just survived, but thrived. And over the last 230 years, the most catastrophic events have occurred to this land because people didn't listen to ancient Aboriginal cultures and languages and knowledge. And I don't mean ancient in that they were practiced only a millennia ago. They're practiced all the way up to now. And because people haven't been listening to that, these catastrophes have been happening. And I would bet that there is all of that knowledge where you live as well, and where all of your listeners are living as well. So my question is, if people were able to look after this place for 60,000 years and thrive, what have we done to ensure that we do have a healthy fit world for the next 60,000 years?And I don't think we can see beyond a hundred, to be honest. And I think we should really get on with getting it right. And my job as an educator, I'm doing my bit and I know lots of others are doing their bit, but how do we really stand in history as being the generation, no matter what our brains, no matter what our education, no matter what our resources and our embeddedness is, that we couldn't deal with what we have faced now, and that's our own extinction."www.sydney.edu.auwww.sydney.edu.au/content/dam/corporate/documents/about-us/values-and-visions/one-sydney-many-people-digital.pdfSeason 2 of Business & Society focuses on Leaders, Sustainability & Environmental Solutions Business & Society is a limited series co-hosted by Bruce Piasecki & Mia Funk www.oneplanetpodcast.org

“When I was 24, I decided to take a year off to travel. And I sold everything. I ended a relationship that I was in. And I ended up taking a plane trip to Colombia, a one-way ticket. And then I backpacked throughout South America for the next six months. And that's where my father is from in Ecuador. My mom is from Mexico. So a part of that trip also was trying to reconnect to a continent that I didn't really have much knowledge of or experience in, even though it was where my family came from.I did all kinds of new things that I had never tried before. But I do think now looking back, there was also an ancestral connection. So that area was really important for me and really got me thinking too about my identity as a Latinx person in the US and as a person of color. I think what also was really important about those travels is that it made me realize that identity is really malleable, that in the US, I'm considered a Latinx person of color. In South America, I was considered a white person, actually, or an American. People heard my accent, but even when I was speaking Spanish, because of my light skin, I had a different classification in Latin America than I did growing up in the States. So I think also seeing how I changed based on where I was traveling to and where I was living within, in some ways that was kind of liberating. It was educational, and it was also liberating that these identities are not fixed and that we need to be cognizant of them and responsible and accountable to the position we live in or the positionality that we have of privilege or not privilege, depending on where we are. But that there is no concrete identity really. It moves and changes and shifts with us, depending on where we go. So I think that was also something that helped expand and broaden the way I was thinking about all the things I was feeling a little bit trapped in when I was in the United States.”Amanda E. Machado is a writer, public speaker and facilitator whose work explores how race, gender, sexuality, and power affect the way we travel and experience the outdoors. She has written and facilitated on topics of social justice and adventure and lived in Cape Town, Havana, Mexico City, Berlin, Rio de Janeiro, and other cities. She has been published in The Atlantic, The Washington Post, The Guardian, New York Times, NPR, and other publications. She is also the founder of Reclaiming Nature Writing, a multi-week online workshop that expands how we tell stories about nature in a way that considers ancestry, colonization, migration trauma, and other issues.www.amandaemachado.comIG www.instagram.com/amandaemachado0www.creativeprocess.info www.oneplanetpodcast.org IG www.instagram.com/creativeprocesspodcast

Amanda E. Machado is a writer, public speaker and facilitator whose work explores how race, gender, sexuality, and power affect the way we travel and experience the outdoors. She has written and facilitated on topics of social justice and adventure and lived in Cape Town, Havana, Mexico City, Berlin, Rio de Janeiro, and other cities. She has been published in The Atlantic, The Washington Post, The Guardian, New York Times, NPR, and other publications. She is also the founder of Reclaiming Nature Writing, a multi-week online workshop that expands how we tell stories about nature in a way that considers ancestry, colonization, migration trauma, and other issues.“When I was 24, I decided to take a year off to travel. And I sold everything. I ended a relationship that I was in. And I ended up taking a plane trip to Colombia, a one-way ticket. And then I backpacked throughout South America for the next six months. And that's where my father is from in Ecuador. My mom is from Mexico. So a part of that trip also was trying to reconnect to a continent that I didn't really have much knowledge of or experience in, even though it was where my family came from.I did all kinds of new things that I had never tried before. But I do think now looking back, there was also an ancestral connection. So that area was really important for me and really got me thinking too about my identity as a Latinx person in the US and as a person of color. I think what also was really important about those travels is that it made me realize that identity is really malleable, that in the US, I'm considered a Latinx person of color. In South America, I was considered a white person, actually, or an American. People heard my accent, but even when I was speaking Spanish, because of my light skin, I had a different classification in Latin America than I did growing up in the States. So I think also seeing how I changed based on where I was traveling to and where I was living within, in some ways that was kind of liberating. It was educational, and it was also liberating that these identities are not fixed and that we need to be cognizant of them and responsible and accountable to the position we live in or the positionality that we have of privilege or not privilege, depending on where we are. But that there is no concrete identity really. It moves and changes and shifts with us, depending on where we go. So I think that was also something that helped expand and broaden the way I was thinking about all the things I was feeling a little bit trapped in when I was in the United States.”www.amandaemachado.comIG www.instagram.com/amandaemachado0www.creativeprocess.info www.oneplanetpodcast.org IG www.instagram.com/creativeprocesspodcast

“Technoscience in the first place has increased the power of our actions by orders of magnitude that you can't even really imagine. Nuclear warfare being the most stunning example of that awakened a whole generation to the need for something like engineering ethics, or the complexity of machines that only a very small group of people have sufficient expertise to even understand how they work. To the fact that the consequences of technology are often irreversible and don't appear until way in the future so that you and I don't even really need to think about them. Or at least in terms of the ordinary what is my duty or what is my contract to my children or my children's children or into the certain kind of future we can think of. So this is a complex of many problems. It touches on science and religion and art and history and sociology and everything.”Harold P. Sjursen is an educator and administrator having served on the faculty of both a liberal arts college and school of engineering. His background is in the history of philosophy, but since childhood has sustained an interest in science and technology. His current research interests focus on the philosophy of technology, global philosophy, and technological ethics. His engineering education projects address issues related to the internationalization of higher education, the integration of the liberal arts and engineering and ethics beyond the codes for engineers.http://harold-sjursen.orgwww.creativeprocess.info www.oneplanetpodcast.org IG www.instagram.com/creativeprocesspodcast