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Accounting High
Accounting High is the premier practice management podcast for tax and accounting firm owners. Join us for conversations about running a modern accounting practice in the cloud. We are the next generation of accounting professionals questioning the state of the accounting profession.
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Sep 8, 2022 • 49min
065 Making Accounting Sexy (feat. Lindsay Stevenson, CPA)
Episode 65 | Recorded March 14, 2022 (π day)
Guest: Lindsay Stevenson, CPA, CGMA
Hosts: Jason Ackerman and Scott Scarano
Join Jason and Scott in getting to know more about Lindsay, BPM LLP’s Chief Transformation Officer. What does that role do? We weren’t too sure ourselves until Lindsay gave us a glimpse of what she does. Listen to how she started out as a staff accountant until becoming an integral part of a large firm and how she was able to go through a midlife crisis in identifying what she really wanted to do with her career. Lindsay also shares her experience on how these big innovative changes happen at a large firm and how being a CPA makes you a “hot thang” that most businesses all over the country would want to work with.
0 Accounting can be sexy to young people
3 Chief Transformation Officer - the strategy behind being innovative, forward-thinking, and actually moving the needle so that we can get traction on all the cool ideas that our team has
4 Lindsays journey from a public accountant to Chief Transformation Officer
Shoutout to Sarah Elliot, CPA, PCC, Brian Kush, PCC, CPA
8 What would a job look like for you?... And he said, let’s do it! Let’s do it at BPM
Shoutout to Dan Griffiths
10 I was overwhelmed to think that there was just sort of this written rule about CPAs. You come into the profession, you put your head down, and you do your work. Then you keep doing that until you make partner. It just felt I wasn’t that
14 If your foundation is built on time and that billing structure, you can't just build something else on top of that. It's a shaky foundation
16 The real magic in my role is it’s really fun to think about the big things
Shoutout to Apple
19 What you should care about the most is every client interaction and how to make that better
23 Lindsay’s and Jason’s POV on how small and large firms adapt and innovate their processes
Shoutout to Thompson Reuters, CCH, Workday
27 When you become the big fish in the pond, there is less motivation to innovate
30 Is this due to the general mindset shift of the digital age or people being more open to sharing?
Shoutout to Squadcast
34 Niche Accounting, the next big shift for the accounting space. Or have we already shifted into it?
Shoutout to Tate Henshaw, CFP
39 What are some of the things that Lindsay’s looking forward to changing with her new role?
40 Accounting can be sexy
42 If you were to sell the CPA firm or the CPA profession to your kids, how would you do it?
Shoutout to Dave Emmerman
43 You come out of school and you say, I'm a CPA. Near every business in this country would be like, come work for me because I need somebody that understands finances
47 Be brave and be bold. There are ways to take risks and be bold and be brave in very small ways that carry very little risk

Sep 6, 2022 • 49min
064 Atomic Habits for Accountants, Pt 3: Practical Applications | #FreshBookReports Vol. 3
Episode 64
#FreshBookReports @ Accounting High (the miniseries)
Recorded May 22, 2022
Still, with us today is Twyla Verhelst, CPA. Twyla is the distinguished director of the Accountant Channel and the FreshBooks Accounting Partner Program Leader. She supports and empowers other accounting professionals as they help small businesses flourish.
Thank you to our sponsor, Freshbooks!
Part 3 of 3
Atomic Habits: An Easy & Proven Way to Build Good Habits & Break Bad Ones by James Clear. Scott and Twlya conclude this mini-series by giving us their final take on the book. What are our key takeaways? How can we get back our lost identities or gain new ones? Finding that delicate balance as we muddle through everything. Come ride along as we finish this ride and get prepared for what else might come
0 - Don’t judge a book by its cover, or should we?
3 - Our genes (genetics) are related to our habits
5 - Identify yourself and know what’ll work for you
7 - CBE: Career Best Efforts, the real little things that compound over time
10 - When you can’t win by being better, you can win by being different
Shoutout to Scott Adams, Zachary Call, CPA, Mike Michalowicz
13 - Measure what matters and improve on that
14 - Peak motivation: How do we get there?
17 - Finding the balance in getting there and not losing yourself
Shoutout to Ron Baker
18 - Who knew sparkling water gives you variable rewards?
21 - We got your accounting and we’re not gonna judge, Accounting Vice!
Shoutout to David Leary
22 - The downside of creating good habits
25 - Autopilot: not being as mindful or aware of your habits and how it becomes boredom
26 - Advantages of having an accountability buddy
30 - There’s always light at the end of the tunnel
Shoutout to Nikole Mackenzie, CPA
32 - Why this book is being reread and how it’s been an instrument to reset or to check-in
35 - Success is not a goal to reach or a finish line to cross
36 - Lack of self-awareness is poison
39 - Self-control is difficult because it’s not satisfying
41 - Being curious is better than being smart
42 - Your actions reveal how badly you want something
45 - We can only be rational and logical after we have been emotional
48 - Capping of this mini-series, we hear what are Scott and Twyla’s final thoughts on it.
Shoutout to Kenji Kuramoto
52 - We’ll grow into AccountingLife
55 - Be careful with control
57 - Is Atomic Habits worth a 5-star rating?

Sep 2, 2022 • 18min
#5minLy | 7 Accounting Firm MicroHabits
Season 3 BONUS | Recorded March 22, 2022
Welcome to the resurrection of the #5minLy
We’re back for another chat and your regular dose of quick-and-easy information. Today, our hosts go through the 7 micro habits to be a better leader. Although short compared to our usual episodes, this ain’t short on helpful tips on how we can better mange our firm and our employees. Listen in for more…
#5minLy is co-hosted by Michael Ly, an accounting and fintech entrepreneur whose exposure to the startup accounting ecosystems has given him insights into the opportunities around the data sitting in accounting systems
7 micro habits that’ll help you become a better leader at your firm
Champion your employees’ professional development
Be present in the moment
Create a periodic performance review, and follow it up
Be a coach
Be a human
Be honest
Share the praise and encourage others to do the same
Shoutout to Twyla Verhelst, CPA Karbon Earmark Xero Nikole Mackenzie, CPA Chewy

Aug 31, 2022 • 58min
063 So Many Things to Learn (feat. Ed Mendlowitz, CPA)
Episode 63 | Recorded February 22, 2022
Guest: Edward Mendlowitz, CPA
Hosts: Jason Ackerman, CPA and Scott Scarano, EA
Sponsor: Dark Horse CPAs - visit abetterway.cpa to learn more
Hosted by Scott and Jason, Ed shares the story of his accounting life. Not familiar with who Edward Mendlowitz is? He’s an accountant who has been in practice since 1974 and is now a Partner at Withum. This episode is a collection of stories about his practice and how he was able to adapt, innovate, and take on the challenges of the accounting space. Not a minute goes to waste as he shares his personal tips and tricks in running his business so be sure to give your 101% attention or you might miss the greatest tip you’ll ever need.
2 A lot of wisdom with Ed, none with Jason, and a little with Scott
Shoutout to CPA Journal
4 Ed, a legit Sons of CPA: I wanted to be a CPA like my father
5 It seemed to me that my father was a very powerful person because he had all these people who couldn't make decisions without getting his advice
7 Ed has been fixed price billing even before it was the hype
14 You gotta just look for the cracks
16 I have to charge you for what I did and it's pretty high
17 I love accounting, believe me. I love it, but it's not a hobby, it's a business and I gotta make money from it
19 Any client that paid me a fee was a good client… the fact whether I liked them or didn't like them was not relevant. I did a great job for them, they appreciated it, and they paid me my fees
24 You don't wanna put your fortune, your life at risk by dealing with people that are dishonest or out there breaking the law. That’s stupid
Shoutout to Ron Saharyan, Profit First Professionals
25 HOT STUFF!: How Ed made a big company not pay taxes for 7-8 years
30 Ed’s first partnership: Siegel Mendlowitz & Rich, PC
Shoutout to Seymour G. Siegel, The Wall Street Journal
32 On to the next ones: Mendlowitz Weitsen LLP and Withum Smith + Brown, PC
Shoutout to Peter Weitsen, Frank Boutillette, Withum, Paul Rich
35 You wanna grow, you gotta build infrastructure, you gotta do it right
37 If I could hold onto what I got, I'm never gonna do bad. I may not do great, but I'm never gonna do bad
40 You gotta give the salary that the people are worth. Not what they were worth when you hired them, but their worth after you made your investment in them. They now own that value
45 What has changed is the things that haven’t changed. What hasn’t changed is the attitude towards staff
49 Ed’s favorite part of accounting? Every single thing he’s done, Everything!
51 Ed’s advice on starting a firm? Get a client where you could get a check every month, get that annuity business
Shoutout to AICPA, Sidney Kess, Bill Hagaman
55 Ed’s parting tip for this episode? You gotta raise the fee every year. Your expenses go up every year. When you raise the fee, you're not increasing the fee, you're passing on your increased costs

Aug 28, 2022 • 4min
#CPAliens (a parody of "ATLiens" by OutKast)
shout out to all my CPAliens, you know who you are...
[Verse 1]
It’s the accounting firm owner, podcaster, amateur rapper
first time on the mic so listen close and hold your laughter
so, what’s hotter than a million-dollar cloud firm,
with low churn, there i go again, talking about myself, and
track, indicators, to perform on this platform
And now you ‘bout to see a southern EA reborn
I said i’m not a public certified accountant
and they say it’s not the tax you pay but what bracket you in
You got mail? send electric or post-dated to the I-R Service
Cause if we file a return that’s late, they all get nervous
So go get your Panda signed docs, and listen close bitches
the riches, come when you’re deeply penetrating niches
scar-a-no got taxed but i’m here and still alive
a felony for selling cocaine in two thousand five
and now i thrive, took a nosedive, but didn’t go to prison
i’ve said this all before, but i don’t think ya’ll even listen
[Hook]
Now toss your hands in the air
And wave 'em like you’re in despair
if your tax staff quits and you’re sick of this shit
Then everybody let me hear you say No Fa-ir
[Verse 2]
fixed asset depreciation or study cost segregation
For the property owner, and not the loaner
let me know when it’s time for print toner
If not I'll wait, because the future of the profession is gone
If the children of CPAs gon' be a daughter or son
Or are they the smartest regardless the platform they on?
I feel that if we take a break, it might just start to be fun
Or will they run out of funds and grab a p-p-p loan?
They wanna consult us on leadership, and finding your Why
Like Simon Sinek when you find it that’s a natural high
Land of Ron Baker or an acre of a cloud in my sky
Now banker, banker no more can I get Relay-Fi?
[Verse 3]
Foolish is how i act, but you know i ain’t no fool
Thinking about how a Podcast about accounting can be cool?
Like A-J to the E-S, cause we adjust the journal entries and
Homie, i think i made it, but i’m not automated,
finally ended client engagements that we tolerated
And now I'm rapping on a track that OutKast created
is it a Debit or a Credit?
are balance sheet numbers killing you softly?
intro the C-P-Aliens, and debit inventory
So Sorry, as I trade Scarano to Earmark
Found how to dismantle my anchor, and then depart
Then turned the page, now everybody's trying to find their spark?
A-R clerks stay serious even when they fart
a facade of being hilarious Shakespeare with no fear
protect vulnerable PCs but Macs are in the clear, okay?
I wasn’t locked away, i got a longer rep in this endeavor,
not low on ambition so I'm ready explore and get paid!

Aug 22, 2022 • 1h 4min
062 The Grandma of Cloud Accounting (feat. Rachel Fisch)
Episode 62 | Recorded March 7, 2022
Guest: Rachel Fisch
Hosts: Jason Ackerman, CPA & Scott Scarano, EA
Sponsor: Dark Horse CPAs - visit abetterway.cpa to learn more
Welcome! Our guest today is the one, only and always Rachel Fisch. Rachel has over 20 years of experience in bookkeeping and accounting, with a number of those years running her own practice. She previously served as National Bookkeeping Lead for Deloitte and most recently was the Accountants Group Leader for Sage. She is also a dynamic speaker, and accounting vanguard, and presents at prestigious international conferences.
3 How Rachel got into accounting? Not intentionally ...?
Shout out to Liz Mason and High Rock Accounting
5 The accounting trajectory
Shout out to Winnipeg, Fisch Financial and FischBooks, AND FreshBooks
8 On NOT being lazy
Shout out to John Garrett and Green Apple Slices
11 Best part of connecting with other accountants?
Shout out to Accounting Salon
12 Mother Stories – Raising Adolescents
14 Rachel knows EV-ER-Y-BOD-Y!
Shout out to Sage, QB, and Xero
16 The role at High Rock and in accounting – moving people forward
17 What challenges?
19 The Holy Grails of accounting
Shout out to Hubdoc and Relay
21 Tax accounting in Canada
Shout out to TaxCycle, Canada Revenue Agency
24 The implosion of a firm
Shout out to the QuickBooks Training, QuickBooks Desktop, Peachtree, and Sage 50, Deloitte
30 Big Four bookkeeping foibles and mindset adjustments
Shout out to MNP
34 Some woulda-coulda-shouldas when you’re being bought out
37 Spiraling up (and down) at Sage and landing at High Rock
Shout out to Jay Kimmelman and Digital CPA, and Megan Tarnow, and Mobius
42 From both sides now ... balancing user feedback and product dev
45 Build, buy or partner?
46 High points of High Rocking
49 Scott Unchaperoned – What Sesame Street character would you be?
Shout out to Grover, Big Bird, and The Count
51 What chess piece are you? (Rachel = Knight)
54 On being remembered ...
Shout out to Liz Mason, Megan Tarnow, Chris Geno, and anyone who doesn’t know #TaxTwitter
62 Hackathon Talk
Shout out to Earmark Accounting Podcast, Blake Oliver, David Leary, Peter Wen
64 Visions of a successful year
Shout out to Rebel Rock Accounting
Connect with Rachel:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rachelfisch/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/Fischbooks

Aug 19, 2022 • 16min
Friday Night Fights | QBO vs Xero: Round 1
To set the stage for our first cage match our first Friday Night Fight...
Accounting High presents... QuickBooks Online versus Xero, the cage match. Round one
nobody paid us for this product comparison
it was recorded on January 19, 2022
In the Xero Corner, we have
Zachary Call, CPA Partner & CPA at Weaver Call & House LC
In the QuickBooks Online Corner, we have
Michael Ly Fintech Entrepreneur | Cloud Accounting Executive | Online Bookkeeping | Speaker | Coach | Advisor
and
Paul Glantz, CPA Co-Founder and Director of Tax at Walker Glantz PLLC

Aug 16, 2022 • 45min
061 Atomic Habits for Accountants, Pt. 2: The Four Laws | #FreshBookReports Vol. 2
Episode 61
#FreshBookReports @ Accounting High (the miniseries)
Recorded March 4, 2022
Back with us today is Twyla Verhelst, CPA. Twyla is the distinguished director and leader of the FreshBooks Accounting Partner Program. She supports and empowers other accounting professionals as they help small businesses flourish.
Thank you to our sponsor of this miniseries, Freshbooks!
Atomic Habits for Accountants Part 2 of 3
Atomic Habits: An Easy & Proven Way to Build Good Habits & Break Bad Ones by James Clear. Whether you’ve read the book or you haven’t, this series of episodes will definitely open you up as to why it has been a favorite among our peers. Scott and Twyla give us an in depth look at what the four laws of behavioral change are and how we can use these laws to make or break our habits. Let’s hear how they applied these laws in their professional and personal affairs.
Shoutout Dhruv & Vimal (vic) Bava, CPA
4 It's a great book, an easy read. It’s something that changes based on your perspective and worldview at the time
Shoutout James Clear
8 1st law of behavioral change: Make It Obvious (Make It Invisible)
9 Scott shares a personal shift that he did in breaking a bad habit
12 Travel season: How can we keep up with our habits as we move away from our usual spaces
14 2nd law of behavioral change: Make it Attractive (Make It Unattractive)
15 Good habits can be very difficult to keep up with in the short-term
16 Ensuring that you do the things that are working towards your future self and where you’re going
18 Making “rewards” work towards our habit building
Shoutout to LuluLemon & MeetUp
21 3rd law of behavioral change: Make It Easy (Make It Difficult)
23 When a habit get easy and it gets automatic, that’s when it gets Atomic
27 It’s finding the time for that action and making that action easier and automated
31 Make the bad habits difficult
34 4th law of behavioral change: Make It Satisfying (Make It Unsatisfying)
35 What is rewarded is repeated
36 Habit tracking is part of the rewards. It’s obvious, attractive, and satisfying.
39 What should we track? Scott gives us an example of how tracking habits became beneficial to his accounting firm
42 It’s better to do less than you hoped than to do nothing at all
44 Scott and Twyla wrap up the 2nd part of this series with the 4 laws of behavioral change, building good habits and breaking bad habits as follows:
Building Good; make it obvious, attractive, easy, and satisfying
Breaking Bad; making it invisible, unattractive, difficult, and unsatisfying

Aug 11, 2022 • 53min
#NiksTips on Poetry
This is Poetry 101 brought to you by Accounting High (aka Sons of CPAs)
Sponsored by LiveFlow, be sure to give this episode a go, they can help you grow, check them out at liveflow.io
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Your Hosts, Emcees, Poets
Nikole Mackenzie, CPA aka Niks
Scott Scarano aka Lil Toddler aka Slim Scotty aka Esquired (S²) aka OKR (OK Rapper)
Let’s give it up for this presentation
Your hosts share their poetic creations
Sick verses brought out by their imagination
What they do is entertain and impart education
Purpose? Connect the individuals in this profession
4 Nikole shares her personal use cases for LiveFlow. Automation with an exclamation (point)!
Go to liveflow.io/sons
6 cooler than a polar bear's toenails
Shoutout to OutKast, Andre 3000, Big Boi, Lil Wayne
8 an accounting firm owner, podcaster, and rapper spits them bars!
12 A tribute to OutKast, Scott’s writing this rap, but not so fast
Shoutout to Andre Nickatina, Simon Sinek, Ron Baker
15 I ain’t no fool thinking about how a podcast about accounting can be cool
Shoutout to John Garret, Ignition
18 ready to explore and get paid
Shoutout to Jason Ackerman, CPA, CFP, CGMA, Kenji Kuramoto
21 give it up for Niks as she throws down her sick licks
Shoutout to Chewy, Greg Kyte, Earmark, Cloud Accounting Podcast, Reach Reporting
24 #CPAliens we’re doing things that are foreign to the industry as a whole
Shoutout to Handwrytten, Ian Vacin, Karbon
29 This was written before I wrote it
Shoutout to Blake Oliver, CPA, Lorilyn Wilson
31 The evolution of getting CPEs in the present
Shoutout to Fathom, Jimmie Allen
35 People are the purpose and I purposefully work hard to stay ethically connected to the individuals in this profession
Shoutout to Dave Matthews Band
38 Educate and entertain authentically… That’s what we’re trying to do
Shoutout to Chase Birky, CPA, Justin Kürn, Dark Horse CPAs, Katy Perry
45 Does Scott need to change his profile photo in LinkedIn? Let us know!
Shoutout to Liz Mason, Digits

Aug 8, 2022 • 54min
060 The Accounting Game (feat. Chris Williams, CEO)
Episode 60 | Recorded February 22, 2022
Guest: Chris Williams, CEO of System Six
Hosts: Nikole Mackenzie, CPA & Scott Scarano, EA
Sponsor: Karbon - visit karbonhq.com to learn more
Today, Scott and Niks are joined by Chris Williams, Owner/CEO of System Six, a 100%-remote outsourced accounting services firm. Before System Six, Chris served as an advisor to and investor in medium-large sized businesses. He’s worked for several fast growing companies, and holds a business degree from Stanford.
2 - Chris = Cool (surprise engagements, running the media circuit, hitting the links ...)
Shout out to DWYT, Kenji Kuramoto
7 - How Chris’s finance background led to acquiring System Six
Shoutout to Jeremy Allen
11 - Numbers talk – revenue, and cashflow, and EBITDA, oh my!
15 - Why cloud accounting is so hot right now
17 - The System Six biz model
18 - Opportunity in operations issues
22 - Why it’s okay to lose clients
24 - Chris is living his best life and he's wearing 10 different hats!
26 - Learning curves inside System Six
29 - Talking profit share, work/life balance, and staff shuffling
32 - Cash v. Accrual v. Tax – the pain-point discussion
Shoutout to Tallyfor, Peter Wen and Michael Ly
37 - Should you switch to Karbon?
Shoutout to Karbon
41 - All about cybersecurity – email, system backups, passwords, insurance, etc.
Shout out to AWS, QBO, Azure
47 - Client conversions – should you, or shouldn’t you?
Shoutout to Xero, Gusto, and Google
49 - Tech Tool Talk
51 - Grading clients – the red flags
53 - Chris’s parting words of wisdom
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Connect with Chris:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-williams-68057029/
System Six: https://systemsix.com/