

This Is Not Church Podcast
This Is Not Church
This Is Not Church podcast offers a compelling and thought-provoking exploration of the intersections between deconstruction, activism, spirituality, and the LGBTQIA+ community, as well as vital issues like Black Lives Matter and First Nations' rights. Hosted by passionate individuals who are dedicated to fostering open and inclusive conversations, this podcast delves into the complex journey of deconstructing one's faith, while simultaneously embracing and advocating for the rights and stories of the LGBTQIA+ community, as well as the fight for racial justice within the Black Lives Matter movement and the preservation of First Nations' cultures and rights. With a focus on examining the evolving landscapes of faith and identity, "This Is Not Church" provides a safe and informative space for listeners to engage with narratives of self-discovery, resilience, and transformation, ultimately encouraging a more empathetic and understanding society.
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Jan 19, 2026 • 57min
The Girl Who Baptized Herself: A Conversation With Meggan Watterson
This Quoircast Podcast episode is brought to you by The Outsider's Banquet by John Suarez. Published by Quoir and available nowIn this episode we chat with Meggan WattersonMEGGAN WATTERSON is the author of The Girl Who Baptized Herself (forthcoming July 2025) and the Wall Street Journal bestselling Mary Magdalene Revealed. She is a feminist theologian with a Master of Theological Studies from Harvard Divinity School and a Master of Divinity from Union Theological Seminary at Columbia University. She leads a global online spiritual community, The House of Mary Magdalene, to study the scripture left out of the Christian canon like The Gospel of Mary and The Acts of Paul and Thecla. Her work has appeared in media outlets such as The New York Times, The Huffington Post, TEDxWomen, and Marie Claire.You can connect with Meggan on:Facebook Instagram SubstackYou can find all things Meggan Watterson related on her websiteYou can purchase The Girl Who Baptized Herself on Bookshop.orgYou can connect with This Is Not Church on:Facebook Instagram TikTok YouTubeAlso check out our Biolink for all things This Is Not Church relatedPlease like and follow our Quoircast Partners:Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Second Cup with Keith The Church Needs TherapyIdeas Digest Snarky Faith Podcast Wild Olive Deadly Faith Spirituality Brew Pub Faith For The Rest Of UsJonathan_Foster Sacred Thoughts Holy Heretics Reframing Our Stories Bros Bibles & Beer Liminal LivingLove Covered Life The Social Jesus Project I Was A Teenage Fundamentalist Radical Love Live The God SquadEach episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jan 12, 2026 • 49min
Just Trust Life: A Conversation with Christine Tracy
This Quoircast Podcast episode is brought to you by Liminal Living PodcastIn this episode we chat with Christine TracyChristine M. Tracy is a writer, journalist, rhetorician, and Teilhardian scholar. Inspired by the "noosphere," Teilhard's word for collective thought energy, she coined the term "newsphere" and wrote The Newsphere: Understanding the News and Information Environment to explain the paradox of the current news environment. She believes the energy of the noosphere can enhance collective evolution and wrote The Mystic As Everyman to help readers connect their "insides with their outsides." Tracy is a member of the Council of Scholar Advisors for The Teilhard Project and has published scholarly essays exploring Teilhard's relationship to progressive disciplines, including media ecology and integral theory. She lives in Boulder, Colorado, where she skis, swims, hikes, and engages with progressive ideas and spiritual communities.You can connect with Christine on:Facebook InstagramYou can find all things Christine Tracy related on her websiteLearn more about the Noosphere at this websiteYou can purchase Just Trust Life on Amazon.comYou can connect with This Is Not Church on:Facebook Instagram TikTok YouTubeAlso check out our Biolink for all things This Is Not Church relatedPlease like and follow our Quoircast Partners:Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Second Cup with Keith The Church Needs TherapyIdeas Digest Snarky Faith Podcast Wild Olive Deadly Faith Spirituality Brew Pub Faith For The Rest Of UsJonathan_Foster Sacred Thoughts Holy Heretics Reframing Our Stories Bros Bibles & Beer Liminal LivingLove Covered Life The Social Jesus Project I Was A Teenage Fundamentalist Radical Love Live The God SquadEach episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jan 5, 2026 • 59min
Jubilee Economics: A Conversation With Kelley Nikondeha
Kelley Nikondeha, a liberation theologian and community development practitioner, dives deep into her experiences with Jubilee Economics. She discusses how her marriage to Claude from Burundi shifted her perspective on global poverty and American values. Kelley highlights the ancient practice of debt amnesty and its relevance today, drawing parallels with Jesus' teachings. She emphasizes the importance of communal trust in financial models and suggests that micro-level actions can bring about real change, challenging Western individualism in economic practices.

Dec 29, 2025 • 1h 6min
December Rebroadcast - Everything All At Once: A Conversation With Steph Catudal
In This episode we chat with Steph CatudalSteph Catudal is atrained interpersonal mediator, Steph has a Masters degree in Media, Peace and Conflict studies and has worked as an Assistant Professor in Media and Peacebuilding. Though she was born and raised in Montreal, Quebec, Steph is a beach nomad at heart, and spent most of her pre-motherhood life traveling around Guatemala, Hawaii, Costa Rica and Brazil. She currently lives with her husband, three daughters and one fluffy Pomeranian.You can connect with Steph on: InstagramYou can find all things Steph related on her websiteYou can purchase Everything All At Once on Amazon.comYou can connect with This Is Not Church on:Facebook Instagram TikTok YouTubeAlso check out our Biolink for all things This Is Not Church relatedPlease like and follow our Quoircast Partners:Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Second Cup with Keith The Church Needs TherapyIdeas Digest Snarky Faith Podcast Wild Olive Deadly Faith Spirituality Brew Pub Faith For The Rest Of UsJonathan_Foster Sacred Thoughts Holy Heretics Reframing Our Stories Bros Bibles & Beer Liminal LivingLove Covered Life The Social Jesus Project I Was A Teenage Fundamentalist Radical Love Live The God SquadEach episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Dec 22, 2025 • 1h 5min
December Rebroadcast - The Separation Of Church And Hate: A Conversation With John Fugelsang
December RebrodcastThis Quoircast Podcast episode is brought to you by High Minds PodcastIn this episode we chat with John FugelsangJohn Fugelsang has been murdered on CSI and picketed by the Westboro Baptist Church. He’s a Drama League–nominated actor, comedian, and broadcaster who’s hosted many TV shows and podcasts, including the acclaimed Tell Me Everything series on SiriusXM Progress. He’s gotten George Harrison to give his final performance on VH1, debated Jerry Falwell and David Duke, and made many appearances on MSNBC, FOX News, and CNN. His epic PBS road trip film on the American Dream, Dream On, directed by Roger Weisberg, was named Best Documentary at the New York Independent Film Festival. Fugelsang lives in New York City with his family.You can connect with John Fugelsang on:Facebook Instagram Threads TikTok YouTubeYou can find all things John Fugelsang related on his websiteLike and subscribe to the John Fugelsang PodcastYou can purchase The Separation Of Church And Hate on Amazon.comYou can connect with This Is Not Church on:Facebook Instagram TikTok YouTubeAlso check out our Biolink for all things This Is Not Church relatedPlease like and follow our Quoircast Partners:Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Second Cup with Keith The Church Needs TherapyIdeas Digest Snarky Faith Podcast Wild Olive Deadly Faith Spirituality Brew Pub Faith For The Rest Of UsJonathan_Foster Sacred Thoughts Holy Heretics Reframing Our Stories Bros Bibles & Beer Liminal LivingLove Covered Life The Social Jesus Project I Was A Teenage Fundamentalist Radical Love Live The God SquadEach episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Dec 15, 2025 • 51min
Sanctuary Of Healing: A Conversation With Julia Matallana Freedman
This episode is bought to you by The Outsider's Banquet: A Journey in Healing, Overcoming, Progressing, and Evolving by John Suarez. Published by Quoir and available now.In this episode we chat with Julia Matallana FreedmanJulia Matallana Freedman was recently ordained to the transitional diaconate in the Episcopal Church in the Diocese of Massachusetts. She serves as a full-time pastor at an Episcopal church in the Diocese of Rhode Island. She holds a Master of Divinity from Duke Divinity School. A first-generation college graduate, Julia is passionate about the intersection of faith and trauma, often preaching on social justice, suffering, and the importance of living out one's faith in contemporary society. She lives in Riverside, Rhode Island.You can connect with Julia on:Facebook Instagram TikTok SubstackYou can find all things Julia Matallana Freedman related on her websiteHere is the link to NamiYou can purchase Sanctuary of Healing: Transforming Churches into Trauma-Informed Spaces on Bookshop.orgYou can connect with This Is Not Church on:Facebook Instagram TikTok YouTubeAlso check out our Biolink for all things This Is Not Church relatedPlease like and follow our Quoircast Partners:Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Second Cup with Keith The Church Needs TherapyIdeas Digest Snarky Faith Podcast Wild Olive Deadly Faith Spirituality Brew Pub Faith For The Rest Of UsJonathan_Foster Sacred Thoughts Holy Heretics Reframing Our Stories Bros Bibles & Beer Liminal LivingLove Covered Life The Social Jesus Project I Was A Teenage Fundamentalist Radical Love Live The God SquadEach episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Dec 8, 2025 • 57min
Rereading Revelation: A Conversation With Greg Carey
This Quoircast Podcast episode is brought to you by the Bros Bibles And Beer PodcastIn this episode we chat with Greg CareyGreg Carey is professor of New Testament at Moravian University School of Theology. He currently serves as the school’s chief academic officer and as associate dean of the Lancaster campus. His research interests include the book of Revelation and ancient apocalyptic literature, the Gospel of Luke, and public biblical interpretation. He is the author of numerous books, including Using Our Outside Voice: Public Biblical Interpretation, Stories Jesus Told: How to Read a Parable, Death, the End of History, and Beyond: Eschatology in the Bible, and Rereading Revelation: Theology, Ethics, and Resistance.You can connect with Greg Carey on:Facebook Instagram ThreadsYou can purchase Rereading Revelation on Amazon.comYou can connect with This Is Not Church on:Facebook Instagram TikTok YouTubeAlso check out our Biolink for all things This Is Not Church relatedPlease like and follow our Quoircast Partners:Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Second Cup with Keith The Church Needs TherapyIdeas Digest Snarky Faith Podcast Wild Olive Deadly Faith Spirituality Brew Pub Faith For The Rest Of UsJonathan_Foster Sacred Thoughts Holy Heretics Reframing Our Stories Bros Bibles & Beer Liminal LivingLove Covered Life The Social Jesus Project I Was A Teenage Fundamentalist Radical Love Live The God SquadEach episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Dec 1, 2025 • 1h
Hungry For Hope: A Conversation With Kristina Frugé
This Quoircast Podcast episode is brought to you by Breaking Bad Faith by Michael Camp. Published by Quoir and available now.In this episode we chat with Kristina FrugéKristina Frugé is director of Congregational and Community Initiatives with Augsburg University’s Riverside Innovation Hub. Equipped with twenty-five years of ministry experience and a master’s degree in congregational mission and leadership, she works with congregations exploring their call to become vital neighbors.You can connect with Kristina on:Facebook InstagramFor more information about the book Hungry For Hope check out this websiteYou can purchase Hungry For Hope on Amazon.comYou can connect with This Is Not Church on:Facebook Instagram TikTok YouTubeAlso check out our Biolink for all things This Is Not Church relatedPlease like and follow our Quoircast Partners:Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Second Cup with Keith The Church Needs TherapyIdeas Digest Snarky Faith Podcast Wild Olive Deadly Faith Spirituality Brew Pub Faith For The Rest Of UsJonathan_Foster Sacred Thoughts Holy Heretics Reframing Our Stories Bros Bibles & Beer Liminal LivingLove Covered Life The Social Jesus Project I Was A Teenage Fundamentalist Radical Love Live The God SquadEach episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Nov 24, 2025 • 1h 5min
The God I Was Given: A Conversation With Scot Loyd
This Quoircast Podcast episode is brought to you by the High Minds PodcastIn this episode we chat with Scot LoydScot Loyd is an author, speaker, and storyteller exploring the intersections of race, religion, culture, and communication. Raised in rural Arkansas within classical Pentecostalism, he learned to pray before he learned to question—but those questions led him into a lifelong journey of faith beyond fundamentalism. He writes for seekers, skeptics, and worn-out believers who long for something deeper than dogmatism and truer than performance.You can connect with Scot on:Facebook Instagram TikTok YouTubeYou can find all things Scot Loyd related on his websiteYou can purchase The God I Was Given on Amazon.comYou can connect with This Is Not Church on:Facebook Instagram TikTok YouTubeAlso check out our Biolink for all things This Is Not Church relatedPlease like and follow our Quoircast Partners:Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Second Cup with Keith The Church Needs TherapyIdeas Digest Snarky Faith Podcast Wild Olive Deadly Faith Spirituality Brew Pub Faith For The Rest Of UsJonathan_Foster Sacred Thoughts Holy Heretics Reframing Our Stories Bros Bibles & Beer Liminal LivingLove Covered Life The Social Jesus Project I Was A Teenage Fundamentalist Radical Love Live The God SquadEach episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Nov 17, 2025 • 53min
Eating With Jesus: A Conversation With Robert Cornwall
This Quoircast Podcast episode is brought to you by the Honoring The Journey PodcastIn this episode we chat with Robert CornwallRobert D. Cornwall is Minister-at-Large with the Christian Church (Disciples of Christ) living in Troy, Michigan. He previously served as Senior Pastor of Central Woodward Christian Church (Disciples of Christ) of Troy, MI. He received his Ph.D. in Historical Theology from Fuller Theological Seminary and is editor of Sharing the Practice (Academy of Parish Clergy). His books include Religion, Politics and Dissent, 1660-1832, co-edited with William Gibson (2010), Faith in the Public Square (2012), and Unfettered Spirit: Spiritual Gifts for the New Great Awakening, 2nd edition, (2021).You can connect with Robert on:Facebook Instagram Threads BlueskyYou can find all things Robert Cornwall related on his websiteYou can buy Eating with Jesus: Reflections on Divine Encounters at the Open Eucharistic Table on Amazon.comYou can buy Second Thoughts on the Second Coming on Amazon.comYou can connect with This Is Not Church on:Facebook Instagram TikTok YouTubeAlso check out our Biolink for all things This Is Not Church relatedPlease like and follow our Quoircast Partners:Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Second Cup with Keith The Church Needs TherapyIdeas Digest Snarky Faith Podcast Wild Olive Deadly Faith Spirituality Brew Pub Faith For The Rest Of UsJonathan_Foster Sacred Thoughts Holy Heretics Reframing Our Stories Bros Bibles & Beer Liminal LivingLove Covered Life The Social Jesus Project I Was A Teenage Fundamentalist Radical Love Live The God SquadEach episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.


