

Larry Wilmore: Black on the Air
The Ringer
Emmy Award—winning producer, actor, and comedian Larry Wilmore is back on the air, hosting a podcast where he weighs in on the issues of the week and interviews guests in the worlds of politics, entertainment, culture, sports, and beyond.
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Oct 16, 2022 • 1h 16min
Travon Free on '38 at the Garden'
Larry is joined by Academy and Emmy Award-winning writer and director Travon Free to discuss his new documentary '38 at the Garden' on HBO. They begin the conversation by sharing why he wanted to make the film and how it exposes the limitations society places on a particular narrative or stereotype, in this case Jeremy Lin's struggle to prove his worthiness as an NBA-level basketball player as a Taiwanese-American. Next, they talk about the importance of telling stories like Lin's to strengthen our society against bigotry, the importance of representation in all facets of life, and audience reception to the film.(23:25) After the break, Travon talks about life after winning an Oscar, which in turn leads to an in-depth discussion about intellectual property, how major studios will recycle IP to generate revenue, and how aspiring writers can use IP to break into the industry.(37:26) Finally, Travon details the advantages and complications of being part of a dual-director team with Martin Desmond Roe and his infatuation with Formula 1 racing.(57:03)
Host: Larry Wilmore
Guest: Travon Free
Producers: Chris Sutton and Brandy LaPlante Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Oct 8, 2022 • 1h 13min
Kerry Washington and Raamla Mohamed on 'Reasonable Doubt'
Larry is joined by Kerry Washington and Raamla Mohamed, the producers and creators of the new Hulu legal drama 'Reasonable Doubt'. They begin their conversation by explaining how the show got its start, the intricacies of writing its complex characters, and the expert casting of lead actress Emayatzy Corinealdi. Next, Raamla and Kerry share their experiences coming up in the industry while working on 'Scandal' together and discuss the benefits of developing a project like 'Reasonable Doubt', where diversity and inclusion are the focus when casting key position roles in the overall production. (18:29) Then Kerry dives into her preparation for directing the series pilot and the importance of creating a safe space for actors to excel.(32:34) After the break, Raamla discusses how she uses her personal history to infuse a wholly Los Angeles feel into 'Reasonable Doubt', and details the audience response to the show's impeccable fashion and soundtrack.(43:45) They end the pod by sharing advice to any aspiring actors, writers, or producers looking to be in the industry.(1:02:36)
Host: Larry Wilmore
Guests: Kerry Washington and Raamla Mohamed
Producers: Brandy LaPlante and Chris Sutton Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Sep 25, 2022 • 1h 20min
Sheryl Lee Ralph on 'Abbott Elementary'
Larry weighs in on the political landscape heading into the midterms, the Dobbs decision, and the definition of personhood. He's then joined by Emmy Award-winning actress Sheryl Lee Ralph to talk about the new ABC series 'Abbott Elementary'. They start their conversation by talking about the emotions Sheryl felt when she won Outstanding Supporting Actress in a Comedy Series for her role as Barbara Howard and the impetus behind her viral acceptance speech. (23:45) Sheryl then details how she was cast for 'Abbott Elementary', the challenges she faced in preparation for the role, and some of the techniques she employed to execute her performance.(35:56) After the break, they dive into how her parents and bi-country upbringing empowered her to pursue her acting dreams.(49:53) They then discuss how her participation in the Negro Ensemble Company at Rutgers University opened the door for her first screen role opposite Sidney Poitier in 'A Piece of the Action'.(52:34) They end the pod by talking about her experiences with the original stage production of 'Dreamgirls' and the biggest lessons she's learned from her legendary career.(62:21)
Host: Larry Wilmore
Guest: Sheryl Lee Ralph
Producers: Chris Sutton and Brandy LaPlante Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Sep 18, 2022 • 1h 20min
Andy Borowitz on 'Profiles in Ignorance: How America's Politicians Got Dumb and Dumber'
Larry is joined by writer and comedian Andy Borowitz to discuss his new book, 'Profiles in Ignorance: How America's Politicians Got Dumb and Dumber,' which examines how television has negatively shaped the political climate and its participants since its proliferation in the 1950s and '60s. Andy starts the conversation with some anecdotes from his time working on 'The Facts of Life' and 'The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air' and then pivots into the three-part structure of the book (4:02). In the opening "Ridicule" section, Andy details the history of anti-intellectualism in the modern conservative movement and how it contrasts with the "egg head" candidates often sought by the left (19:41). Next, they talk about the "Acceptance" phase, which breaks down how raw charisma and the cultural zeitgeist propelled Ronald Reagan, Sarah Palin, Bill Clinton, and Donald Trump to mass popularity and positions of power (40:03). After the break they get to the "Celebration" chapters, which examines how Trumpist firebrands like Ron DeSantis became the face of the current GOP (51:21). Larry and Andy end the pod by pondering whether it's the politicians making the voters stupid or if the stupidity is already within the voters themselves (1:09:52).
Host: Larry Wilmore
Guest: Andy Borowitz
Producers: Chris Sutton and Brandy LaPlante Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Sep 11, 2022 • 55min
Ken Burns and Sarah Botstein on 'The U.S. and the Holocaust'
Larry is joined by award-winning filmmakers Ken Burns and Sarah Botstein to discuss their new PBS docuseries 'The U.S. and the Holocaust', premiering Sept. 18. They begin their conversation by detailing the United States government's inadequacies in their response to the Nazi's persecution of the Jews during WWII. Next, they offer a brief history of xenophobia in American society leading up to the events in the film(7:10) and talk about how the number of casualties and the sentimentality of certain portrayals of the war like 'The Diary of a Young Girl' by Anne Frank may have been different if America would have reacted more quickly.(19:06) After the break they dive into Charles Lindbergh's anti-semitism and how it drastically contradicted his celebrated public persona, while also shining a light on some of the lesser known heroes of the Holocaust. (29:35) They end the pod by collectively pondering how humanity is capable of committing atrocities like the Holocaust and debate if the current political climate in the U.S. is heading towards a similar atmosphere.(40:09)
Host: Larry Wilmore
Guests: Ken Burns and Sarah Botstein
Producers: Brandy LaPlante and Chris Sutton Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Aug 27, 2022 • 45min
Regina Hall on 'Honk for Jesus. Save Your Soul'
Larry is joined by actress and producer Regina Hall to talk about her new film 'Honk for Jesus. Save Your Soul' premiering theatrically and on Peacock September 2. They start their conversation by breaking down the film's plot and her role as Trinitie Childs, the "first lady' of a struggling megachurch, while also delving into Hall's own religious background. This leads to a discussion about the complicated nature of not only church hierarchies but organized religion itself.(11:48) Next, they discuss the creative approach to playing Trinitie and the chemistry between her co-star Sterling K.Brown.(19:42) After the break, Regina details how a personal tragedy influenced her life trajectory and propelled her towards acting school and a successful career in the industry.(25:17) Hall then shares how she is able to explore the character-driven spaces within a script to cultivate comedic performances.(33:05) They end the pod by talking about about some of Regina's influences and looking forward to future projects.(35:53)
Host: Larry Wilmore
Guest: Regina Hall
Producers: Brandy LaPlante and Chris Sutton Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Aug 20, 2022 • 1h 4min
Jessica Gao on 'She-Hulk: Attorney at Law'
Larry is joined by Emmy Award-winning writer and producer Jessica Gao to talk about her new Disney+ series 'She-Hulk: Attorney at Law'. They begin their conversation by talking about how they became friends, why she wanted to develop a show around She-Hulk, and her personal connection to the character. Next, Jessica details her journey from comic book fan to comic book TV and movie writer via her experiences working at a comic book store at a young age and the subsequent opportunities that presented themselves after contributing to a writing fellowship at Nickelodeon.(11:08) This leads to a discussion about the importance of identifying career "indicators" that reveal the value of your work and consistently learning your craft when starting out.(27:45) Jessica then describes her struggle to avoid being pigeonholed as a Chinese-American woman in a white male-dominated Hollywood machine and maintain representation within her projects and throughout the industry.(32:54) After the break, Larry and Jessica break down the challenges of putting together a Marvel show and praise the incredible work of the 'She-Hulk' cast, particularly lead actress Tatiana Maslany.(37:07) They end the pod by looking forward to the rest of the show's first season and Jessica shares some very amusing anecdotes about her parents.(54:22)
Host: Larry Wilmore
Guest: Jessica Gao
Producers: Chris Sutton and Brandy LaPlante Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Aug 13, 2022 • 1h 3min
Mike Birbiglia on ‘The Old Man and the Pool’
Larry is joined by writer, director, and stand-up comedian Mike Birbiglia to talk about his new one-man show ‘The Old Man and the Pool,’ and they start their conversation by examining Mike’s extremely honest storytelling style and how it’s applied in theatre vs. comedy club settings. Next, they dive deep into the magic of the “inevitable non sequitur” in comedic storytelling and dissect the building blocks of a great joke (6:35). Mike then shares the journey that led him into the world of stand-up and how he navigates the inclusion of real-life family anecdotes within his material (11:15). After the break, Mike details his struggles with both cancer and a rare sleep disorder and talks about the effect they’ve had on his life view and career (33:10). They end the pod by offering aspiring comics tips on relatability and break down the importance of the zen state of mind for a successful performance (45:00).
Host: Larry Wilmore
Guest: Mike Birbiglia
Producers: Chris Sutton and Brandy LaPlante Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jul 30, 2022 • 60min
Tim Miller on 'Why We Did It: A Travelogue from the Republican Road to Hell’
Larry is joined by writer and former political operative Tim Miller to discuss his new book 'Why We Did It: A Travelogue from the Republican Road to Hell’. They begin their conversation by examining the reasons why Miller decided to write such an unflinching memoir that details the moral conflicts that led him to leave his job as an opposition research "hitman" for GOP candidates and ultimately quit the Republican party. Next, they dissect the shift in political rhetoric that led to the rise of Donald Trump and Miller dives deep into the ideological paradox he faced being a gay man in an increasingly conservative and homophobic environment.(14:54) After the break they discuss the viability of the Trump cult and if he still has enough power to be re-elected for another term.(41:01) Finally, Larry and Tim share their predictions for the upcoming mid-terms and the future of gay marriage in the Supreme Court.(52:52)
Host: Larry Wilmore
Guest: Tim Miller
Producers: Chris Sutton and Brandy LaPlante Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jul 24, 2022 • 58min
B.J. Novak on 'Vengeance'
Larry is joined by actor, writer, and director B.J. Novak to discuss his new film, 'Vengeance,' premiering on July 29. They begin their conversation by explaining the premise of the movie, the long journey to its completion ,and B.J.'s personal connection to the project. Next, they discuss the isolated feel of the movie's environment and how his experiences visiting with the people in West Texas differed from his political and ideological expectations.(13:23) Novak then discusses some of the challenges he faced directing "Vengeance' and Larry breaks down the difference between directing and producing. (26:19) They end the pod with an amazing talk about their shared experiences working on 'The Office' together and B.J. passes along some advice to writers and directors aspiring to be in the TV or movie industries.(34:25)
Host: Larry Wilmore
Guest: B.J. Novak
Producers: Chris Sutton and Brandy LaPlante Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices


