Ilya Strebulaev, author of 'The Venture Mindset,' discusses the importance of home runs in decision-making for large organizations, types of innovation, independent directors' role in fostering innovation, errors of omission, and promoting the venture mindset. He also explores red flags in decision-making, the balance between formal and informal control rights in corporate governance, the stay private vs. go public debate, and key principles like 'bet on the jockey' and 'double down or quit.'

(0:00) Intro.(1:19) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel.(2:05) Start of interview.(2:58) Greg's "origin story." (5:31) His teaching focus.(8:04) Discussion on startups and venture capital and the era of AI. Behavioral finance and bubbles. (11:17) Bubbles in private (VC and PE) and public markets.(15:12) Staying private vs going public fundamentals.(20:05) The role of governance and advice from directors to CEOs.(22:43) On growth of private equity.(28:00) On the rise and importance of AI. Analogy to electricity. *Reference to Paul David's research.(29:31) On Elon Musk's compensation litigation and the recent Tesla stockholder comp ratification.(36:13) On the role of directors. "It's really hard to be a good board member." "[Directors] better darn well get comfortable with asking not only tough questions, but dumb questions."(40:32) On Texas and Delaware's corporate law competition.(42:04) On the politicization of the boardroom (i.e. ESG) and geopolitics involving China.(48:11) Books that he recommends reading: The History of English Law Before the Time of Edward I  by Pollock and Maitland (1895).(48:57)  His mentors in the area of law.(50:47)  Quotes that he thinks of often or lives his life by.(51:57) An unusual habit or absurd thing that he loves.(54:16) About his podcast Unsiloed.Greg LaBlanc is a Lecturer and Distinguished Teaching Fellow at Berkeley, Stanford, HEC Paris and other prestigious institutions. Greg teaches a wide range of subjects, including finance, strategy, law, innovation, data science, and digital transformation. He is also the host of the podcast Unsiloed. You can follow Evan on social media at:X: @evanepsteinLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/epsteinevan/ Substack: https://evanepstein.substack.com/__To support this podcast you can join as a subscriber of the Boardroom Governance Newsletter at https://evanepstein.substack.com/__Music/Soundtrack (found via Free Music Archive): Seeing The Future by Dexter Britain is licensed under a Attribution-Noncommercial-Share Alike 3.0 United States License

Jennifer Dulski, former COO of Change.org, shares her journey from Yahoo to leading Facebook Groups. She discusses her experiences serving on various boards, the importance of diversity, and effective board governance. Topics include board observer roles, setting norms, and dealing with politicization in the boardroom.

Sonita Lontoh, a seasoned expert in innovation, sustainability, and digital transformation, shares insights on board culture, handling politicization, and geopolitical challenges. She discusses AI in the boardroom, impacts on the workplace, and recommends influential books. Lontoh reflects on her entrepreneurial journey, guiding principles, and impactful mentors, offering a glimpse into her diverse and inspiring career.

(0:00) Intro.(1:14) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel.(2:02) Start of interview.(2:37) Coco's "origin story." (4:32) Her professional background with HR, comp and IT.(6:32) Her time at Taos, a professional services business in IT consulting (17yrs). Ultimately acquired by IBM in 2021.(8:35) The origin story of her founding Athena Alliance (2016) as a non-profit.(11:00) Three core issues with board placements: 1) access to opportunities, 2) positioning for the role, and 3) how to compete to win. *They have placed ~500 women to boards.(13:52) On the business model of Athena Alliance.(16:50) On transitioning from a non-profit to a for-profit model. (20:56) Distinguishing board service between companies with different capital structures (ie. public, PE, VC, ESOPs, etc).(22:18) The landscape for independent director board opportunities (~30,000 companies). On ESOP companies and closed corporations and/or family businesses.(28:18) On Athena's Board Readiness Course.(32:20) On in-person vs remote work, both on an executive and board level. "How do you scale intimacy?"(36:14) On the impact of AI in the boardroom. (39:48) Books that have greatly influenced her life: The Popcorn Report,  by Faith Popcorn (1991)The Science of Evil, by Simon Baron-Cohen (2011)(43:05)  Her mentors. "Different people for different things" e.g. Ivonne Wassenar and Scott Maxwell.(44:20)  Quotes that she thinks of often or lives her life by.(44:41) An unusual habit or absurd thing that she loves.(45:12)  The living person she most admires. Toni Townes-Whitley (CEO of SAIC)Coco Brown is the Founder and CEO of Athena Alliance, a company helping to position top 10% of executive women for advancement and board opportunities.  You can follow Evan on social media at:X: @evanepsteinLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/epsteinevan/ Substack: https://evanepstein.substack.com/__To support this podcast you can join as a subscriber of the Boardroom Governance Newsletter at https://evanepstein.substack.com/__Music/Soundtrack (found via Free Music Archive): Seeing The Future by Dexter Britain is licensed under a Attribution-Noncommercial-Share Alike 3.0 United States License

(0:00) Intro.(1:17) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel.(2:03) Start of interview.(3:08) Greg's "origin story." (6:53) From the University of Georgia to Apple in Cuppertino.(10:50) The start of his entrepreneurial journey in 1992 with his first company.(13:03) The boom and bust cyclical nature of Silicon Valley. "[M]y father used to say that the stock market has predicted nine of the last three recessions. And, you know, I think in Silicon Valley, the investor and entrepreneurial class has predicted nine of the last three technology waves."(17:24) His first foray with startup boards. The role and influence of Don Lucas, and Bob Frick (former CFO of BoA), on his board.(21:49) On the shifting power dynamics in founder-investor relationships (ascendance of "founder ethos").(29:02) On the differences between private equity (PE) and venture capital (VC). "Control investors"(31:29) His experience as a director of public companies: Responsys, acquired by Oracle (2013), and Upwork (IPO in 2018).(34:57) On equity comp (stock options and RSUs)  in tech companies. *Reference to BG2 podcast episode.(47:35) IPOs, private markets and secondary markets. *You can check out my newsletter #52 on this topic.(54:24) On his investment in Cornershop (acquired by Uber) and Latin America market.(1:00:58) On AI as the next technology platform shift.(1:03:50)  Books that have greatly influenced his life: Titan: The Life of John D. Rockefeller,  by Ron Chernow (1998)Thinking Fast and Slow, by Daniel Kahneman (2011)Black Boy, by Richard Wright (1945)(1:05:36) His mentors.(1:07:00) Quotes that he thinks of often or lives her life by: "Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want."(1:07:47) An unusual habit or absurd thing that he loves.(1:08:28) The living person he most admires.Greg Gretsch is a Founding Partner and Managing Director of Jackson Square Ventures, an early stage venture capital firm that invests in software businesses. You can follow Evan on social media at:X: @evanepsteinLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/epsteinevan/ Substack: https://evanepstein.substack.com/__To support this podcast you can join as a subscriber of the Boardroom Governance Newsletter at https://evanepstein.substack.com/__Music/Soundtrack (found via Free Music Archive): Seeing The Future by Dexter Britain is licensed under a Attribution-Noncommercial-Share Alike 3.0 United States License

(0:00) Intro.(1:23) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel.(2:10) Start of interview.(2:40) Patrick's "origin story." (3:41) His time at Skadden and Olshan Frome Wolosky (leading shareholder activism legal practice).(4:38) Joining Vinson & Elkins to co-build shareholder activism practice.(6:40) Distinguishing between large, mid, and small cap activism.(10:14) Reference to Lazard's 2023 Annual Review of Activism and Patrick's 2024 trends to watch out in activism.(13:39) On ESG activism, and the impact of Exxon Mobil case ("[I]t was more of a capital allocation campaign, rather than ESG"). Distinguishing the Starbucks ESG campaign (targeting Starbucks' labor relations).(18:29) Separating E, S, and G activist campaigns. "The 'S' is inherently political"(20:29) On the evolution of Universal Proxy Rules for director elections. (27:06) On the "lifecycle of a campaign" (activists' letters, withdrawals, settlements, proxy fights, etc.)(31:36) The impact of institutional investors and proxy advisors (ISS and Glass Lewis) in shareholder activism. *Reference to the Problem of Twelve episode with HLS Prof John Coates.(37:50) The importance of shareholder engagement (with large institutional investors and proxy advisors).(40:55) On company or board preparedness for activist campaigns.(44:45)  Books that have greatly influenced his life: If I Die in a Combat Zone by Tim O'Brien (1973)Thinking Fast and Slow by Daniel Kahneman (2011)David and Goliath by Malcolm Gladwell (2013)On Shareholder Activism:DisneyWar by James B. Steward (2005)Railroader by Hunter Harrison (2018)The Splendid and the Vile (Saga of Churchill) by Erik Larson (2020)(47:53) His mentors.(49:00) Quotes that he thinks of often or lives her life by.(49:55) An unusual habit or absurd thing that he loves.(50:35) The living person he most admires.Patrick Gadson is the Co-Head of Vinson & Elkins’ Shareholder Activism practice, which advises public companies in competitive proxy solicitations, strategic investor relations, and corporate governance. You can follow Evan on social media at:X: @evanepsteinLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/epsteinevan/ Substack: https://evanepstein.substack.com/__To support this podcast you can join as a subscriber of the Boardroom Governance Newsletter at https://evanepstein.substack.com/__Music/Soundtrack (found via Free Music Archive): Seeing The Future by Dexter Britain is licensed under a Attribution-Noncommercial-Share Alike 3.0 United States License

(0:00) Intro.(1:10) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel.(1:57) Start of interview.(2:40) Leah's "origin story." (3:41) Her time at IBM.(4:48) Her founding story of TaskRabbit (Boston, 2008).(12:43) The evolution of her board at TaskRabbit, and how to think about (startup) board composition and scaling. (20:31) First CEO succession (after $12m Series B in 2012).(25:10) Her return as CEO, raising a Series C, and adding 3 strategic independent directors.(26:13) On hiring Stacy Brown-Philpot as COO, and successor to CEO role.(30:45) Distinguishing between startup directors (management, investor, and independent directors).(36:01) Transitioning to investing as a general partner at Fuel Capital. Motto: "We're on your corner, not in your kitchen"(40:55) On the role of CEO coaches (vs board directors or advisors).(42:44) About YPO. "It has been a hugely influential organization for me."(45:21) Her thoughts on boardroom diversity. Reference to the LCDA.(48:42) Innovation in the boardroom, risks and opportunities of AI.(51:29)  Books that have greatly influenced her life: Founders at Work by Jessica Livingston (2007)Books by Adam Grant.(51:51) Her mentors.(52:25) Quotes that she thinks of often or lives her life by.(52:50) An unusual habit or absurd thing that she loves.(54:15) The living person she most admires.Leah Solivan is a General Partner at Fuel Capital, a Silicon Valley-based seed stage venture capital firm. Prior to that, she was the founder, CEO and Executive Chair at TaskRabbit.You can follow her on social media at:Twitter: @labunleashed You can follow Evan on social media at:X: @evanepsteinLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/epsteinevan/ Substack: https://evanepstein.substack.com/__To support this podcast you can join as a subscriber of the Boardroom Governance Newsletter at https://evanepstein.substack.com/__Music/Soundtrack (found via Free Music Archive): Seeing The Future by Dexter Britain is licensed under a Attribution-Noncommercial-Share Alike 3.0 United States License

Jeffrey Saviano, EY executive and ethics scholar, discusses the need for an AI Hippocratic Oath, multistakeholderism, and board technology committees. He explores the evolution of AI ethics, challenges with AI regulation, and the U.S.-China AI geopolitics. Saviano also shares insights on AI governance, innovation, and the intersection of Web3 and AI.

(0:00) Intro.(1:12) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel.(2:00) Start of interview.(3:10) Amy's "origin story." (6:23) Her time leading Comcast Ventures, and how Corporate Venture Capital (CVC) has evolved.(9:08) Why SF/Silicon Valley as a tech hub for Comcast Ventures.(11:19) Her first public company board experience (with Adobe).(13:15) Differences on serving on public and private (venture-backed) boards. "Much more hands-on in private companies."(15:27) Differences between young and old public companies. Her experience on the board of On Running. "[M]y one advice to future board members or existing board members is to learn how to listen. And you're listening for different things, again, depending on the stage of the company."(19:42) On "adversarial boards." (24:10) On OpenAI's board fiasco. Trust in CEOs and boardrooms. Private companies and founder misbehavior. "You never fire fast enough." "You know when things are off."(32:35) On the current AI investment cycle.(36:16) On the state of San Francisco as a city and tech hub.(39:35) On women sports, and her involvement with Bay FC, a pro women's soccer team based in SF/Bay Area.(43:09) Her thoughts on the debate and politicization of ESG and DEI.(46:41)  Books that have greatly influenced her life: The Innovator's Dilemma by Clay Christensen (1997)These Truths by Jill Lepore (2018)21 Lessons for the 21st Century by Yuval Harari (2018)(47:52) Her mentors: Ralph J. Roberts (founder of Comcast). (49:02) Quotes that she thinks of often or lives her life by: "Old men ought to be explorers" (T.S. Eliot) and "A house divided against itself cannot stand." (Abraham Lincoln)(50:20) An unusual habit or absurd thing that she loves.(51:07) The living person she most admires: Liz Cheney and Taylor Swift.Amy Banse is a Venture Partner at Mosaic General Partnership, a VC firm based in SF Bay Area. Amy has over 30 years of experience starting, investing in, and building businesses at Comcast and as a board member on numerous public and private companies, including Adobe, Clorox, On Running and Lennar Corporation.  You can follow Evan on social media at:X: @evanepsteinLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/epsteinevan/ Substack: https://evanepstein.substack.com/__To support this podcast you can join as a subscriber of the Boardroom Governance Newsletter at https://evanepstein.substack.com/__Music/Soundtrack (found via Free Music Archive): Seeing The Future by Dexter Britain is licensed under a Attribution-Noncommercial-Share Alike 3.0 United States License