
Another Podcast
If you're looking for another over-scripted and edited podcast, this is not it. But if you want to listen to honest and unfiltered discussions about the latest in tech and its impact on society, welcome, you have come to the right place.
This is Another Podcast where two friends and colleagues discuss their overlapping experiences and perspectives on what happens in technology. We might know some of the same things, yet we also have different backgrounds and expertise, or at least, we ask different questions.
Benedict Evans has worked in equity research, strategy and venture capital and owns lots of old phones; Toni Cowan-Brown works at the intersection of tech, policy and politics.
Latest episodes

Sep 28, 2021 • 36min
Regulation - Who will notice?
Tech regulation and the problems that prompt it to fill every headline. But is structural change coming? Who will this affect? Who will notice?Follow Benedict on TwitterFollow Toni on Twitter

Sep 20, 2021 • 40min
Apple's metronome
The new iPhones are boring, and why that's interesting. Plus, Apple and Epic stumble towards a new App Store model, and - Real Soon Now - Apple! glasses! and! cars! It's the Apple metronome. Follow Benedict on TwitterFollow Toni on Twitter

Aug 26, 2021 • 36min
Games and Roblox
The barrier to entry to gaming is lower than it has ever been. But are there more gamers today? Are more 10-year-olds playing games today than they did 10 years ago? And why are we more focused on what is happening in this space?Follow Benedict on TwitterFollow Toni on Twitter

Aug 15, 2021 • 40min
Telcos and Tesla
Why hasn't tech disrupted mobile network operators? Smartphones changed everything about mobile, and yet the networks are all still there with pretty much the same business. Does software always matter? At what level of the stack? And what's the read-across to cars?Follow Benedict on TwitterFollow Toni on Twitter

Jul 13, 2021 • 52min
Creativity and Optimism
A conversation about creativity, working with tech and optimism with Nicolas Roope, agency and startup co-founder who has ridden many of the revolutions we talk about on this show.Follow Benedict on TwitterFollow Toni on TwitterFollow Nicolas on Twitter

Jul 5, 2021 • 43min
'Digital transformation' - beyond the silly slogan
'Digital transformation' sounds like a terrible marketing slogan, but it describes a pretty basic generational change in how big companies do tech. Why is that interesting if you're not a big company? Follow Benedict on TwitterFollow Toni on Twitter

Jun 29, 2021 • 57min
Tech in china, from inside and outside
This is a follow-up to our conversation on Chinese tech with someone who knows a lot more about this space than we do - Lillian Li, who writes the weekly newsletter, Chinese Characteristics.Follow Benedict on TwitterFollow Toni on TwitterFollow Lillian on Twitter

Jun 21, 2021 • 53min
The Business of publishing
This is a follow-up to our conversation on Ad Tech with someone who knows a little more about this space than we do - Jeremy White, Executive Editor WIRED UK.Follow Benedict on TwitterFollow Toni on TwitterFollow Jeremy White on Twitter

Jun 14, 2021 • 42min
Paying attention to Apple again
Why do we watch WWDC? Did Apple do anything that matters if you don't own an iPhone? And what's the war on privacy?Follow Benedict on TwitterFollow Toni on Twitter

Mar 14, 2021 • 37min
Trying to understand Ad Tech
Online advertising is worth $300bn, and yet almost no-one that doesn't work on an ad team really understands much of it. So what is the cookie apocalypse, what does it mean, and where is the money and power moving? No, we don't know either. Follow Benedict on TwitterFollow Toni on Twitter
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