
The Credit Clubhouse
Welcome to The Credit Clubhouse — where the world of structured credit, direct lending, asset-based finance, and fund finance meets sharp insights and even sharper wit. Hosted by Todd Anderson, DealCatalyst’s Head of Content, this podcast dives deep into the complex world of alternative finance with a dash of humor and a lot of know-how. Whether you're a seasoned professional or just looking to sound smarter at your next industry event, Todd and his guests will break down the jargon and unpack the trends shaping the future of credit markets — one episode at a time. Grab your headphones; the deals are in the details!
Latest episodes

Jul 17, 2025 • 32min
E21: Diversification Brings Europe into the Spotlight with Maxime Laurent-Bellue of Tikehau Capital
Thanks for returning to The Credit Clubhouse, your one-stop shop for all things credit.We have a special offer for our listeners. If you want to attend any of our conferences, we have a fantastic deal for you. Simply visit www.dealcatalyst.io, choose the event you want to attend and enter the promo code CREDIT when registering to receive a 10% discount on the ticket price.Please remember to follow the show, rate us, and leave a review. Your feedback is invaluable to us and helps us improve the show.Welcome back to our latest installment of The Credit Clubhouse, as always I am your host, Todd Anderson, Head of Content & Programming at DealCatalyst. Joining me today is Maxime Laurent-Bellue, Group Deputy Chief Executive Officer and Co-Head of Credit at Tikehau Capital.Key topics covered:Investor appetite and motivations for European alternativesThe risk/return trade-off in private credit versus traditional fixed income?The Evolution of the European Private Debt Market.Shifting borrower behaviors amidst tighter credit conditions.How Tikehau differentiates its European platform.Balancing opportunistic investing with thematic long-term strategies across private markets.Sustainable finance and how to measure tangible impact in private credit.Structuring and origination innovations.Alternative asset classes and regions poised for growth.And much more...Maxime Laurent-Bellue, Group Deputy Chief Executive Officer and Co-Head of Credit, Tikehau Capital - https://www.linkedin.com/in/maxime-laurent-bellue-2b818729/ Todd Anderson, Head of Content & Programming, DealCatalyst - https://www.linkedin.com/in/toddanderson19/

Jul 10, 2025 • 36min
E20: Private Credit Secondaries - If You Build it, They Will Come with Rick Jain at Pantheon
Thanks for returning to The Credit Clubhouse, your one-stop shop for all things credit.We have a special offer for our listeners. If you want to attend any of our conferences, we have a fantastic deal for you. Simply visit www.dealcatalyst.io, choose the event you want to attend and enter the promo code CREDIT when registering to receive a 10% discount on the ticket price.Please remember to follow the show, rate us, and leave a review. Your feedback is invaluable to us and helps us improve the show.Welcome back to our latest installment of The Credit Clubhouse, as always I am your host, Todd Anderson, Head of Content & Programming at DealCatalyst. Joining me today is Rakesh (Rick) Jain, Partner and the Global Head of Private Credit at Pantheon.Key topics covered:How the growth of Private Credit and Secondaries are linked today.The key drivers behind the growth and momentum in the private credit secondaries market.The changing motivations in secondaries. Innovations in structuring secondaries deals.The biggest misconceptions about secondaries.How are LPs viewing the various liquidity solutions available today?Volume and pricing trends within the credit secondaries strategiesPantheon and Rick's remit as Global Head of Private Credit.The public/private dynamic.The tradability/liquidity of private credit loans.Underappreciated market segments in private credit?Macroeconomic volatility.Alternative asset classes and regions poised for significant growth in the next decade.Rick's biggest surprise since joining Pantheon.Rick Jain, Partner and the Global Head of Private Credit, Pantheon - https://www.linkedin.com/in/rakesh-j-6b539/ Todd Anderson, Head of Content & Programming, DealCatalyst - https://www.linkedin.com/in/toddanderson19/

Jul 2, 2025 • 33min
E19: The Intersection Between Asset Managers & Insurers with Mike Consedine of Athene
Thanks for returning to The Credit Clubhouse, your one-stop shop for all things credit.We have a special offer for our listeners. If you want to attend any of our conferences, we have a fantastic deal for you. Simply visit www.dealcatalyst.io, choose the event you want to attend and enter the promo code CREDIT when registering to receive a 10% discount on the ticket price.Please remember to follow the show, rate us, and leave a review. Your feedback is invaluable to us and helps us improve the show.Welcome back to our latest installment of The Credit Clubhouse, as always I am your host, Todd Anderson, Head of Content & Programming at DealCatalyst. Joining me today is Mike Consedine, Executive Vice President and Global Head of Government and Regulatory Affairs at Athene.Key topics covered:What is the NAIC?What role does the NAIC play for insurers?How the regulatory environment is changing.The healthy exchange of ideas between regulators and market participants.Mike's remit at Athene and the role Athene plays in the market today.The demand for insurance capitalThe opportunity for insurance capital to play a bigger role.Why a robust capital market can be the most significant strategic asset the U.S. can offer.The shifting dynamics between public and private markets.Mental health in the workplaceAnd much more...Mike Consedine, Executive Vice President and Global Head of Government and Regulatory Affairs at Athene - https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-consedine-6616a510/Todd Anderson, Head of Content & Programming, DealCatalyst - https://www.linkedin.com/in/toddanderson19/

Jun 26, 2025 • 47min
E18 - Real-Time Loan Origination with Stuart Cheetham, Co-Founder & CEO, MQube
Thanks for returning to The Credit Clubhouse, your one-stop shop for all things credit.We have a special offer for our listeners. If you want to attend any of our conferences, we have a fantastic deal for you. Simply visit www.dealcatalyst.io, choose the event you want to attend and enter the promo code CREDIT when registering to receive a 10% discount on the ticket price.Please remember to follow the show, rate us, and leave a review. Your feedback is invaluable to us and helps us improve the show.Welcome back to our latest installment of The Credit Clubhouse, as always I am your host, Todd Anderson, Head of Content & Programming at DealCatalyst. Joining me today is Stuart Cheetham, Co-Founder & CEO, MQube.Key topics covered:AI's impact on the UK mortgage market.How MQube utilizes AI in its product.The AI overhype machine.The state of the UK mortgage market.The biggest pain points for borrowers, lenders, and funders.MQube business model as a lender and tech providerStuart's entrepreneurial journeySecuritization and blockchainAnd much more...Stuart Cheetham, Co-Founder & CEO, MQube - https://www.linkedin.com/in/stuartcheetham/?originalSubdomain=ukTodd Anderson, Head of Content & Programming, DealCatalyst - https://www.linkedin.com/in/toddanderson19/

Jun 19, 2025 • 25min
E17: Originations as a differentiator with Zia Uddin, President of Monroe Capital
Thanks for returning to The Credit Clubhouse, your one-stop shop for all things credit. We have a special offer for our listeners. If you want to attend any of our conferences, we have a fantastic deal for you. Simply visit www.dealcatalyst.io, choose the event you want to attend and enter the promo code CREDIT when registering to receive a 10% discount on the ticket price. Please remember to follow the show, rate us, and leave a review. Your feedback is invaluable to us and helps us improve the show. Welcome back to our latest installment of The Credit Clubhouse, as always I am your host, Todd Anderson, Head of Content & Programming at DealCatalyst. Joining me today is Zia Uddin, President of Monroe Capital.Key topics covered:The impact of the recent volatility.Can direct lending handle a 50-100% growth over the next three years? The evolution and history of Monroe Capital.Monroe Capital's LP baseRetail investors vs institutional allocators.Private credit solutions for borrowers seeking long-term partners.Joint venture arrangements with banks.The future for the tradability/liquidity of private credit loans.The AI boom.Incorporating AI into platform management.And much more...Zia Uddin, President of Monroe Capital - https://www.linkedin.com/in/uddinz/ Todd Anderson, Head of Content & Programming, DealCatalyst - https://www.linkedin.com/in/toddanderson19/

Jun 12, 2025 • 26min
E16: Extracting value from inefficient European credit markets with Fabian Chrobog of NorthWall Capital
Thanks for returning to The Credit Clubhouse, your one-stop shop for all things credit. We have a special offer for our listeners. If you want to attend any of our conferences, we have a fantastic deal for you. Simply visit www.dealcatalyst.io, choose the event you want to attend and enter the promo code CREDIT when registering to receive a 10% discount on the ticket price. Please remember to follow the show, rate us, and leave a review. Your feedback is invaluable to us and helps us improve the show. Welcome back to our latest installment of The Credit Clubhouse, as always I am your host, Todd Anderson, Head of Content & Programming at DealCatalyst. Joining me today is Fabian Chrobog, Founder & Chief Investment Officer of NorthWall Capital.Key topics covered:The best opportunities in credit today.The stability of the UK and Europe amongst the current volatility.The impact of the market volatility across NorthWall's strategies.Fabian's entrepreneurial journey.NorthWall's evolution.The biggest questions LPs are asking.The changing motivations for borrowersThe vision for NorthWall in the next few years.And much more...Fabian Chrobog, Founder & Chief Investment Officer, NorthWall Capital - https://www.linkedin.com/in/fabian-chrobog-44447b/Todd Anderson, Head of Content & Programming, DealCatalyst - https://www.linkedin.com/in/toddanderson19/

Jun 5, 2025 • 34min
E15: Fintech lending from P2P to BNPL, and beyond with Peter Renton of Renton & Co.
Thanks for returning to The Credit Clubhouse, your one-stop shop for all things credit. We have a special offer for our listeners. If you want to attend any of our conferences, we have a fantastic deal for you. Simply visit www.dealcatalyst.io, choose the event you want to attend and enter the promo code CREDIT when registering to receive a 10% discount on the ticket price. Please remember to follow the show, rate us, and leave a review. Your feedback is invaluable to us and helps us improve the show. Welcome back to our latest installment of The Credit Clubhouse, as always I am your host, Todd Anderson, Head of Content & Programming at DealCatalyst. Joining me today is Peter Renton, CEO & Founder of Renton & Co LLC.Key topics covered:The state of fintech lending today.The origin story of P2P lending & investingHow P2P helped the broader fintech market.The shift from P2P to institutional funding.The accessibility of credit.The most interesting/exciting lending innovations.Consumer protectionsBank partnershipsThe fintech lending business model and the lack of profitable firms.And much more...Peter Renton, CEO & Founder of Renton & Co LLC - https://www.linkedin.com/in/peterrenton/Todd Anderson, Head of Content & Programming, DealCatalyst - https://www.linkedin.com/in/toddanderson19/

May 29, 2025 • 38min
E14: NAV financing: maximize flexibility and optionality, with Aryeh Landsberg, Managing Director, 17Capital
Thanks for returning to The Credit Clubhouse, your one-stop shop for all things credit. We have a special offer for our listeners. If you want to attend any of our conferences, we have a fantastic deal for you. Simply visit www.dealcatalyst.io, choose the event you want to attend and enter the promo code CREDIT when registering to receive a 10% discount on the ticket price. Please remember to follow the show, rate us, and leave a review. Your feedback is invaluable to us and helps us improve the show. Welcome back to our latest installment of The Credit Clubhouse, as always I am your host, Todd Anderson, Head of Content & Programming at DealCatalyst. Joining me today is Aryeh Landsberg, Managing Director, 17Capital. Key topics covered:How is NAV financing being used by GPs and LPs?The most significant growth opportunity for NAV financing.Misconceptions about NAV loansThe evolution of the NAV Finance market17Capital's FocusThe biggest drivers behind the growth in fund financeThe challenging fundraising environment How NAV loans compare to other fund finance products.Helping GPs align with best practices and LP expectations.Higher interest rate environmentThe outlook for NAV financing.Aryeh Landsberg, Managing Director, 17Capital - https://www.linkedin.com/in/aryeh-landsberg-cfa-25123aa/Todd Anderson, Head of Content & Programming, DealCatalyst - https://www.linkedin.com/in/toddanderson19/

May 27, 2025 • 35min
E13: The Convergence of Public and Private Markets with Bruce Richards, Marathon Asset Management & Kevin Bliss, Virginia Retirement System
Thanks for returning to The Credit Clubhouse, your one-stop shop for all things credit. We have a special offer for our listeners. If you want to attend any of our conferences, we have a fantastic deal for you. Simply visit www.dealcatalyst.io, choose the event you want to attend and enter the promo code CREDIT when registering to receive a 10% discount on the ticket price. Please remember to follow the show, rate us, and leave a review. Your feedback is invaluable to us and helps us improve the show. Welcome back to our latest installment of The Credit Clubhouse, as always I am your host, Todd Anderson, Head of Content & Programming at DealCatalyst.We have a special episode for you today, Bruce Richards at Marathon Asset Management is joined by Kevin Bliss at The Virginia Retirement System to discuss The Convergence of Public & Private Markets.This keynote was recorded at DealCatalyst’s Private Credit Direct Lending Conference on May 12 - 13 in Nashville.Key topics covered:Key themes across the credit spectrum today GPs and LPs should be aware of when allocating capitalOutlook for the volume of liability management exercises in private marketsAppeal of hybrid public/private capital structures for a lender vs. a typical private deal as sole or lead lender?As public and private markets converge, should allocators expect premiums in the private markets to come down? Views on bank distribution partnerships with private credit managers and the regulatory response to this trendBasel III and the appeal/ need for SRTIdentifying alpha in a competitive marketBruce Richards, CEO & Chairman, Marathon Asset Management - https://www.linkedin.com/in/bruce-richards-6035771a9/Todd Anderson, Head of Content & Programming, DealCatalyst - https://www.linkedin.com/in/toddanderson19/

May 22, 2025 • 42min
E12: CLO ETFs - Bringing a complicated institutional asset class to the masses with John Kerschner of Janus Henderson
In this episode of The Credit Clubhouse, I sit down with John Kerschner, head of US Securitized Products at Janus Henderson, to explore the fascinating world of CLO ETFs. We delve into how these complex institutional asset classes are becoming accessible to retail investors, thanks to innovations like Janus Henderson's JAAA. John shares insights on the growth of CLO ETFs, their performance during market volatility, and the benefits they offer in terms of liquidity and diversification. We also discuss the differences between broadly syndicated loan markets and private credit CLOs, and the role of ETFs in maintaining documentation standards. Join us for a deep dive into the evolving landscape of credit investments.