
Grow Everything Biotech Podcast
Grow Everything reveals the world of biology as technology. Hosts Erum Khan and Karl Schmieder interview leaders and influencers biologizing industries with tools like synthetic biology, precision fermentation, bioprospecting, and more. These companies make biomaterials from waste, cosmetics that restore healthy hair and skin, and delicious cultivated foods in a bioreactor and so much more. Join us as we discuss the latest and greatest across biotech, synbio, entrepreneurship, and culture and how this transition is solving healthcare and climate change challenges.
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Feb 7, 2025 • 51min
115. Gene-ius at Work: George Church on Climate Hacks & CRISPR Stacks – A Homeworld Collective Interview
In this enlightening discussion, guest George Church—a pioneering geneticist and co-founder of numerous biotech companies—dives into the intersection of synthetic biology and climate solutions. He shares his vision for rewilding ecosystems and bio-mining to tackle global challenges. A bold concept of testing Mars colonies on Earth captivates listeners, while he emphasizes the need for innovative monitoring technologies in climate biotech. George's infectious curiosity shines as he breaks down the potential of engineered organisms and scalable biological solutions.

Jan 31, 2025 • 58min
114. BioMADE in America: Crafting the Future of Biomanufacturing with CEO Doug Friedman
Doug Friedman joins the podcast to talk about one of the toughest challenges in biotech—how to survive long enough to actually make an impact. As the head of BioMADE, he's on a mission to build a bioindustrial manufacturing ecosystem that doesn’t just rely on wishful thinking and a single grant check. He explains why most biotech startups get only "one shot on goal" (spoiler: they miss, they’re done) and how we can fix that. Think of it like debugging a bad DNA sequence—you need iteration, not instant perfection. Doug also discusses how government funding is shaping the future of biomanufacturing, why biology today is where semiconductors were in the ‘80s, and why scaling biology might just need its own version of Moore’s Law.
Grow Everything brings the bioeconomy to life. Hosts Karl Schmieder and Erum Azeez Khan share stories and interview the leaders and influencers changing the world by growing everything. Biology is the oldest technology. And it can be engineered. What are we growing?
Learn more at www.messaginglab.com/groweverything
Chapters:
00:00:00 – Fail Fast or Fail Forever – Why biotech startups need more than one shot on goal
00:00:27 – AI Shake-Up – DeepSeek changes the game (and the stock market) overnight
00:01:01 – China vs. AI – What a hedge fund, government crackdowns, and new algorithms have in common
00:02:19 – Power Hungry AI – Why data centers might outgrow the energy grid before we’re ready
00:03:36 – DeepSeek’s Disruption – What it means for AI, efficiency, and the future of computing
00:04:13 – Innovation Under Pressure – How limitations create the best breakthroughs
00:05:46 – Mind Reading? – The wild world of telepathy research and what it means for biotech
00:07:45 – Quantum Strangeness – Exploring dimensions beyond what we can see
00:09:17 – Longevity Hacks – The Brian Johnson experiment: biohacking or billion-dollar placebo?
00:12:48 – Biomanufacturing is Booming – Why the future of production is biological
00:28:35 – PFAS Panic – 3M halts production, and microelectronics scrambles for solutions
00:30:53 – BioMADE’s Master Plan – How industry collaboration is making biomanufacturing real
00:36:56 – Government Meets Biotech – Bridging public and private sectors for impact
00:38:44 – The Bioeconomy is Here – What it means for industries beyond biotech
0:42:29 – Talk to Your Legislators – How to get policymakers to care about biotech
00:46:08 – The Hardest Part of Biomanufacturing – What innovators need to overcome
00:50:42 – Biomanufacturing’s Future – The biggest opportunities waiting to be unlocked
00:52:46 – Final Thoughts – Wrapping up lessons from the frontier of biotech
Links and Resources:
BioMADE
Homeworld Collective (Apply today!)
The Climate Biotech Podcast
DeepSeek Wipes $1 Trillion from Tech Share Prices
The Telepathy Tapes
Don't Die, The Man Who Wants to Live Forever
Rapamycin
General Probiotics
Antheia
Schmidt Sciences
Liberation Labs
Topics Covered:
biomanufacturing, collaboration, public private partnerships, distributed biomanufacturing, longevity biotech, telepathy, tech
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Email: groweverything@messaginglab.com
Music by: Nihilore
Production by: Amplafy Media

Jan 24, 2025 • 54min
113. Microbe Mission Possible: Noah Helman Discusses iMicrobes' Quest to Turn Waste into Wealth
Noah Helman, co-founder of Industrial Microbes, unpacks how his team is giving ethanol a glow-up as a renewable feedstock for creating advanced polymers and sustainable carbon fibers. With a decade of experience in the trenches of biomanufacturing, Noah discusses how they’re engineering microbes to work smarter, not harder, tackling the challenges of cost, scale, and environmental impact. From leveraging industrial partnerships to envisioning a future where waste becomes the ultimate raw material, Noah delivers sharp insights with a side of microbial magic, proving that biology is not just life—it’s a powerhouse of innovation.
Grow Everything brings the bioeconomy to life. Hosts Karl Schmieder and Erum Azeez Khan share stories and interview the leaders and influencers changing the world by growing everything. Biology is the oldest technology. And it can be engineered. What are we growing?
Learn more at www.messaginglab.com/groweverything
Chapters:
00:00:00 - Prelude to Progress: The Challenge of Unique Equipment
00:00:21 - Oil, Politics, and the Biomanufacturing Tug-of-War
00:01:58 - From Biofuel Bust to Synthetic Biology Boom
00:03:59 - A Pledge Against Plastics: Aquarium Insights
00:05:35 - Woolly Mammoths and Capitalist Dinosaurs
00:08:11 - TikTok Drama: Perplexity’s Unlikely Bid
00:12:29 - Ethanol: From Gas Tank to Biomanufacturing Hero
00:15:00 - Meet Noah Helman: Biomanufacturing Pioneer
00:18:00 - Scaling Up: The Chicken-and-Egg of Biomanufacturing
00:22:45 - Breaking Bottlenecks: Innovations in Equipment Access
00:27:00 - Collaborating for Carbon Fiber: Partnerships in Progress
00:30:27 - Spinning Carbon: Fiber Meets Sustainability
00:34:28 - Cracking the Code of Biomanufacturing Bottlenecks
00:36:51 - Waste Not, Want Not: The Power of Circular Inputs
00:42:34 - Futurecasting Biomanufacturing and Bioeconomies
00:45:03 - Next-Gen Biology: Enzymes, AI, and Big Data
00:50:58 - Closing the Loop: Microbial Magic and Future Frontiers
Episode Links:
iMicrobes
The ROI of Waste
Beyond Petrochemicals
BioMADE
ARPA-E
First Bight Ventures
Biowell (accelerator program)
Colossal biosciences raises $200M at 10B valuation
Perplexity bids for TikTok
Arc Institute partners with NVIDIA to accelerate computational biomedical research
Topics Covered: Biomanufacturing, acrylic acid, acrylonitrile, carbon nanofibers, industrial microbes, biotech startups, spaceships, accelerators, synbio investments
Have a question or comment? Message us here:
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Email: groweverything@messaginglab.com
Music by: Nihilore
Production by: Amplafy Media

Jan 17, 2025 • 50min
112. The Baked-In Future of Science: Nick Edwards on Potato AI’s Quest to Become Your AI Scientist
Erum and Karl have an incredible chat with Nick Edwards, the innovative mind behind Potato AI. Nick goes into the inspiration behind the platform's unique name, rooted in childhood curiosity and scientific wonder, and shares his journey from neuroscience research to building a groundbreaking tool aimed at accelerating scientific discovery. He explains how Potato tackles the overwhelming deluge of scientific literature and the reproducibility crisis using AI to structure and analyze data in transformative ways. With stories from his own career, a stint in consulting, and running his podcast "Once a Scientist," Nick discusses the future of AI, science, and collaboration. This episode has amazing insights into how technology is reshaping the very fabric of research.
Grow Everything brings the bioeconomy to life. Hosts Karl Schmieder and Erum Azeez Khan share stories and interview the leaders and influencers changing the world by growing everything. Biology is the oldest technology. And it can be engineered. What are we growing?
Learn more at www.messaginglab.com/groweverything
Chapters:
00:00:00 - Potatoes, Balloons, and a DIY Lab Setup
00:04:56 - Reproducibility Crisis: 70% of Research in Question
00:06:40 - Meet Nick Edwards: The Potato Visionary
00:10:00 - Organizing Scientific Chaos: How AI Helps
00:14:47 - AI Research Assistant vs. AI Scientist: The Journey
00:20:09 - From Neuroscience to Entrepreneurship: A Scientist’s Leap
00:25:00 - Biopharma Meets Bioindustrials: Bridging Two Worlds
00:29:27 - Liquid Handlers and Shared Protocols: Optimizing Biotech
00:35:13 - Multimodality and the AI Scientist Dream
00:39:04 - Citizen Scientists and Accessible AI Tools
00:45:00 - The Next Scientific Revolution: AI and Decentralized Science
Episode Links:
Potato AI
Once A Scientist Podcast
Merck Digital Science Studio
Wiley
Elsevier
Ginkgo Bioworks
Topics Covered: Research, AI research assistant, AI Scientist, Biotech, Lab Automation, Reproducibility
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Email: groweverything@messaginglab.com
Music by: Nihilore
Production by: Amplafy Media

Jan 10, 2025 • 1h 2min
111. Space Genes and Subway Scenes: Chris Mason on Planning Life’s Next Big Leap
Karl and Erum welcome Dr. Chris Mason. He’s a professor of genomics, physiology, and biophysics, as well as co-founder / COI of BiotiaNYC, Ursa Bio, and Onegevity. Chris will take you on a journey from the mysteries of space genomics to the hidden worlds of Earth's microbiomes. He discusses the intersection of advanced biology and space exploration, diving into his work with NASA’s twin study, the possibilities of planetary engineering, and his fascination with unknown DNA found even in urban subways. Chris also talks about how the convergence of ancient biological knowledge and cutting-edge technology could redefine humanity's future, both on Earth and beyond.
Grow Everything brings the bioeconomy to life. Hosts Karl Schmieder and Erum Azeez Khan share stories and interview the leaders and influencers changing the world by growing everything. Biology is the oldest technology. And it can be engineered. What are we growing?
Learn more at www.messaginglab.com/groweverything
Chapters:
00:00:00 - The Spark of Science and Fresh Starts
00:01:23 - The Biotech Buzz in San Francisco
00:03:37 - Blockchain Meets Biology
00:07:45 - 2025’s Game-Changers: Microbes and Mars
00:08:52 - Into the Unknown: Dr. Chris Mason’s Journey
00:12:29 - Space’s Genetic Surprises
00:15:55 - Portable Labs Orbiting Earth
00:21:58 - Hidden Worlds Underfoot: Urban Microbes
00:32:19 - Tokyo’s Microbial Enigma
00:33:08 - The Peanut Paradox and Immune Myths
00:35:56 - Singular Cells in Vast Ecosystems
00:36:46 - From Genes to Blueprints: Synthetic Biology
00:47:31 - Terraforming at Planetary Scale
00:50:45 - Commercial Space Odysseys
00:52:53 - The Biology of Tomorrow: Dreams of Terraforming
00:55:59 - Wrapping Up with Visionaries
Episode Links:
The Next 500 Years: Engineering Life to Reach New Worlds by Chris Mason
Two New Space Planes
DeSci Market Capitalization
Chris Mason Lab
Twins Study - Astronaut genomics
MetaSub
Among New York Subway’s Millions of Riders, a Study Finds Many Mystery Microbes
Extreme Microbiome Project
Colossal Biosciences
Topics Covered:
space genomics, urban microbiomes, dna discovery, planetary engineering, biotechnology trends, genetic engineering, synthetic biology tools, microbiome exploration
Have a question or comment? Message us here:
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Email: groweverything@messaginglab.com
Music by: Nihilore
Production by: Amplafy Media

Jan 3, 2025 • 21min
110. Culture Shock: What's Brewing for the Bioeconomy in 2025
Karl and Erum give us a peek into their outlook for 2025, discussing biotech trends, the rise of decentralized science, and the convergence of AI with biology. They talk about the thawing of the "biotech winter," the potential risks of a new bird flu pandemic, and exciting innovations in quantum biology and drug discovery. Their conversation also touches on how waste can become a resource in biomanufacturing, the future of microbiome engineering, and the growing visibility of biotech in mainstream media. Tune in to hear Karl and Erum set the stage for an exciting year ahead in the world of biotech and beyond.
Grow Everything brings the bioeconomy to life. Hosts Karl Schmieder and Erum Azeez Khan share stories and interview the leaders and influencers changing the world by growing everything. Biology is the oldest technology. And it can be engineered. What are we growing?
Learn more at www.messaginglab.com/groweverything
Chapters:
00:00:00 – The Mushroom That Might Save Us All
00:00:15 – A Slightly Nasal New Year Kickoff
00:01:30 – Bird Flu: The Pandemic Alarm We're Ignoring
00:04:43 – Decentralized Science: Funding the Future with Tokens
00:08:16 – AI, Quantum Biology, and Drug Discovery Breakthroughs
00:11:36 – Turning Trash into Treasure: Biomanufacturing's Next Frontier
00:14:12 – Microbiomes: Tiny Giants in Biotech's Future
00:16:14 – Biotech Goes Mainstream: Ads, Cartoons, and Pop Culture
00:19:54 – 2025 Awaits: A Year of Big Ideas and Bold Moves
Episode Links:
Spore Token
ARPA-H
Vitalia - Join today!
Vitalia Summer School Program - Enroll today!
Cemvita
Polybion
Head & Shoulders x NFL scalp microbiome commercial
Nike Stairs commercial
American Dad gene editing episode
Common Side Effects on Adult Swim
Topics Covered:
2025 outlook, decentralized science, quantum biology, longevity biotech, waste to value, waste as a resource, biomaterials, bioeducation, microbiome
Have a question or comment? Message us here:
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Email: groweverything@messaginglab.com
Music by: Nihilore
Production by: Amplafy Media

Dec 27, 2024 • 59min
109. Long Live Vitalia: The City Where Aging Slows and Innovation Accelerates With Niklas Anzinger
Karl and Erum welcome Niklas Anzinger, the visionary founder of Vitalia, a decentralized city aimed at revolutionizing biotech and longevity. Niklas discusses the need for a more efficient drug development process, proposing a shift toward safety trials and medical reciprocity that could drastically shorten the time it takes to bring life-saving therapies to market. He talks about how Vitalia serves as a hub for biotech innovation, where companies can thrive outside traditional bureaucratic constraints. Niklas shares his ideas on medical freedom and the importance of allowing individuals to make informed choices about their health. He critiques the paternalistic nature of current healthcare systems, advocating for a more empowering approach that encourages personal responsibility and informed decision-making. Niklas believes that by creating a culture of innovation and flexibility, Vitalia can set new standards in healthcare, ultimately improving patient outcomes and accelerating scientific advancements. As Karl and Erum wrap up the episode, they express their excitement about the potential impact of Niklas’s vision—not just for Vitalia, but for the global landscape of biotech and longevity.
Grow Everything brings the bioeconomy to life. Hosts Karl Schmieder and Erum Azeez Khan share stories and interview the leaders and influencers changing the world by growing everything. Biology is the oldest technology. And it can be engineered. What are we growing?
Learn more at www.messaginglab.com/groweverything
Chapters:
00:00:00 The Time Machine: Year-End Reflections
00:00:45 The Alchemy of Biomanufacturing: International Insights
00:01:39 Star Chronicles: Key Episodes and Guests
00:04:05 The Crystal Ball: Science Funding & Future Predictions
00:06:10 Meet the Innovator: Niklas Anzinger
00:07:10 Building Tomorrow: Niklas on Vitalia & Decentralized Cities
00:14:43 Fast Track to Discovery: Accelerating Drug Development
00:20:40 The First Pop-Up City: A Review and Future Horizons
00:25:52 The Legal Labyrinth: Frameworks for Biotech Startups
00:29:14 Navigating New Waters: Regulatory Flexibility & Ethics
00:31:21 The Freedom Frontier: Medical Autonomy Explored
00:32:36 The Healthcare Conundrum: Challenges Ahead
00:37:31 Breakthrough Moments: Success Stories in Biotech
00:42:17 The Crypto Revolution: Blockchain in City Governance
00:46:25 The Science of Decentralization: Research Funding Innovations
00:49:02 Future Frontiers: Opportunities Within Vitalia
00:50:50 The Grand Finale: Conclusions and Reflections
Episode Links:
Vitalia - Join today!
Vitalia Summer School Program - Enroll today!
Prospera Startup City
Zuzalu City
FDA Modernization Act
Dallas Buyers Club
MiniCircle
Unlimited Bio
Symbiont Labs
Topics Covered:
longevity biotech, crypto, human enhancement, biohacking, network states, biopharma regulation, healthcare system, sickcare system, medical reciprocity, safety trials, patients right to choose, drug development, economics of science, quantum biology, aging biology, regulatory flexibility
Have a question or comment? Message us here:
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Email: groweverything@messaginglab.com
Music by: Nihilore
Production by: Amplafy Media

Dec 20, 2024 • 51min
108. Sequence and Desist: Aclid's Kevin Flyangolts On Safeguarding the Bioeconomy
Kevin Flyangolts joins Erum and Karl to talk about the evolving landscape of biosecurity. They discuss the rapid advancements in biotechnology, the growing accessibility of synthetic DNA, and the need for robust screening systems to ensure safety in the bioeconomy. Kevin shares knowledge from his software background, explaining how tools like those at Aclid Bio are bridging gaps in security, protecting against potential misuse, and setting the stage for future innovations in biotech. With reflections on government initiatives, industry collaboration, and the complexities of ethical biosecurity practices, this conversation showcases the urgent issues and exciting possibilities in the intersection of biology and technology.
Grow Everything brings the bioeconomy to life. Hosts Karl Schmieder and Erum Azeez Khan share stories and interview the leaders and influencers changing the world by growing everything. Biology is the oldest technology. And it can be engineered. What are we growing?
Learn more at www.messaginglab.com/groweverything
Chapters:
00:00:00 - Opening with Unchecked DNA Risks
00:00:22 - Drones, Aliens, and the Unknown
00:01:45 - The Biotech Holiday Buzz
00:04:18 - Manufacturing the Future: A Revolution Begins
00:07:05 - DARPA’s Wild Moonshot Ideas
00:09:47 - What Keeps Us Up at Night
00:11:55 - Meet Kevin: Biosecurity Pioneer
00:15:30 - The Software Revolution in Biotech
00:19:45 - Tackling Biosecurity Challenges with Innovation
00:24:58 - Regulations in a Rapidly Changing Field
00:28:59 - Red Teams and Hidden Vulnerabilities
00:39:04 - Building Biotech Trust and Collaboration
00:44:21 - A Vision for Safer Biotech
00:46:59 - Wrap-Up and What’s Next in Biosecurity
Episode Links:
Aclid Bio
Genspace
ECHO NYC
Biolabs@NYULangone
Quorum Bio
The Department of Defense under the Distributed Bioindustrial Manufacturing Program (DBIMP) made 34 awards worth over $60 million. Awardees include Cauldron and Checkerspot.
Topics Covered:
biosecurity, DNA synthesis, BIOSECURE Act, computer science
Have a question or comment? Message us here:
Text or Call (804) 505-5553
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Email: groweverything@messaginglab.com
Music by: Nihilore
Production by: Amplafy Media

Dec 13, 2024 • 1h 1min
107. Glow Big or Go Home: Andy Bass's Journey with Glowing Oceans
Andy Bass is an entrepreneur and biologist who transforms the magic of bioluminescence into immersive experiences. He discusses his innovative projects, like the Dino Pet, aimed at fostering curiosity about marine life. The conversation dives into the emotional and environmental connection to glowing oceans, highlighting the importance of art in conservation. From serene ocean bathing to the need for engaging public exhibits, Andy inspires listeners to embrace nature’s wonders while advocating for marine preservation.

Dec 6, 2024 • 1h 4min
106. Ferment Your Worldview: Jason Kakoyiannis' Recipe for a Bioeconomy Boom
Jason Kakoyiannis, founder of Bioscentric and managing partner of Ferment!, dives into the world of market-driven biotech solutions. He shares insights on how curiosity led him from the art world to pioneering eco-friendly innovations. The discussion explores the emergence of plastic-eating bacteria and sustainable approaches to tackle climate challenges. Jason also emphasizes the importance of identifying the right problems in biotechnology and highlights his venture studio's strategies to support impactful, non-healthcare solutions.
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