

The Pastor Theologians Podcast
The Center for Pastor Theologians
A theology podcast for the church. The pastor theologians podcast consists of conversations and teaching resources at the intersection of theological scholarship and life and ministry in the local church. The vision for this show is to help equip pastors to be theologians for today’s complex world.
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Sep 20, 2021 • 50min
Formation in the Wake of Distress | Vincent Bacote
This episode features a presentation from our 2018 conference on spiritual formation, given by Dr. Vincent Bacote of Wheaton College. What can the broader church learn from the experiences and theological emphases of the African American Church? How has the Black experience in America shaped the approach to spiritual formation in these contexts? How can White Christians listen and learn from the wisdom of these communities' shared experience? Living Church - Awe and Presence

Sep 13, 2021 • 30min
Becoming a Pastor Theologian | Marcus Johnson (Part 2)
What is the relationship between theology and the life and worship of the church? CPT Fellow Marcus Johnson discusses his call to ministry and his most recent book (co-authored with John Clark). A Call to Christian Formation: How Theology Makes Sense of the World explores the definition and formative power of theology. How is the church a theological community? How does theology move and transform us?Living Church - Awe and Presence

Sep 6, 2021 • 32min
Becoming a Pastor Theologian | Marcus Johnson (Part 1)
We are joined on this episode by CPT fellow Marcus Johnson, who serves as a theology professor at the Moody Bible Institute as well as an associate rector at St. Mark's Church in Geneva, IL. Marcus explores his story of faith and theological education, including falling in love with theology and navigating God's calling on his life, particularly his journey to see the life of the church as central to the discipline.Living Church - Awe and Presence

Aug 30, 2021 • 32min
Authority, Leadership, and Power in the Church (PART 2) | Mickey Klink & Joel Lawrence
What is the connection between Mark 10 and Ephesians 5? How do interpretations of these passages make a similar category error around power and authority? What implications do our reflections on power and the pastorate have for church leadership structures and accountability? What is the appropriate relationship between ecclesiology and missiology? All this and more in this episode as we continue our conversation with CPT fellows Joel Lawrence and Mickey Klink. Living Church - Awe and Presence

Aug 23, 2021 • 28min
Authority, Leadership, and Power in the Church (PART 1) | Mickey Klink & Joel Lawrence
In Mark 10 Jesus makes a distinction between the way the Gentiles exercise authority and the way the greatest among Jesus' disciples must become servants. How does this passage relate to a Christian concept of authority? CPT fellows Joel Lawrence and Mickey Klink explore this and related questions in light of the current crisis of authority in the evangelical church.Living Church - Awe and Presence

Aug 16, 2021 • 1h 4min
Christian Patriarchal Feminism | Gerald Hiestand & Amy Peeler
Is there such a thing as "Patriarchal Feminism"? This apparent contradiction in terms is at the center of a paper written by CPT fellow and co-founder Gerald Hiestand. Gerald joins our podcast along with CPT fellow Amy Peeler to discuss these ideas. How does Christianity enter into and redeem the "toxic masculinity" that has characterized so many human societies throughout history? How does this relate to contemporary debates between complementarians and egalitarians and, specifically, the question of women's ordination?Living Church - Awe and Presence

Aug 9, 2021 • 29min
Pain and Power in 2 Corinthians | Ben White
We continue our conversation with CPT fellow Ben White about his PhD research. Ben reflects on how growing up in Canada shapes theological vocation. We also discuss the unique opportunities of teaching at a small evangelical college in New York City. Finally, Ben comments on how a Pauline view of power transforms our conception of power in light of the current crisis of power and abuses of it in evangelicalism.Living Church - Awe and Presence

Aug 2, 2021 • 33min
Becoming a Pastor Theologian | Ben White
On today's episode we are joined by CPT fellow Ben White. We discuss Ben's story of education and faith, and his calling to become a pastor theologian.Living Church - Awe and Presence

Jun 21, 2021 • 35min
A Burning in My Bones | Winn Collier (Part 2)
This week on the podcast is part 2 of a conversation between CPT Executive Director Joel Lawrence is joined by Winn Collier, Director of The Eugene Peterson Center for Christian Imagination & Associate Professor of Pastoral Theology and Christian Imagination at Western Theological Seminary in Holland, Michigan. In this conversation, Joe and Winn dig into Collier’s biography of Eugene Peterson, A Burning in My Bones, discussing Peterson’s family story, his imagination and how that shaped his pastoral vocation, and what Peterson might say to pastors today. Living Church - Awe and Presence

Jun 14, 2021 • 36min
A Burning in My Bones | Winn Collier (Part 1)
This week on the podcast, CPT Executive Director Joel Lawrence is joined by Winn Collier, Director of The Eugene Peterson Center for Christian Imagination & Associate Professor of Pastoral Theology and Christian Imagination at Western Theological Seminary in Holland, Michigan, and author of A Burning in My Bones, the official biography of Eugene Peterson. In part 1, we talk about Winn’s journey in faith, his pastoral ministry, and how he got connected to Eugene Peterson.Living Church - Awe and Presence


