

The Economy, Stupid
ABC
Formerly The Money, The Economy, Stupid is your weekly guide to the world of business, economics and finance. Every Thursday, economist Peter Martin is joined by a team of sharp young thinkers for a fresh conversation about the financial stories making headlines and how they might affect you.
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Nov 20, 2025 • 30min
How COVID changed Australian jobs
Geoff Borland, a labour economist at the University of Melbourne, and Tom Crowley, an ABC federal political reporter, dive into the seismic shifts in Australia's job market post-COVID. They discuss the initial employment collapse, the rapid rebound, and how Australia fared better than other nations. A surprising 22% growth in non-market jobs is examined, highlighting the increased female participation in care roles. They also tackle the peculiar lack of wage growth despite a tight labour market, and offer practical jobseeker advice amidst ongoing changes.

Nov 13, 2025 • 30min
An Uninsurable Future
In this discussion, Paula Jazabkowski, a strategic management professor, and James Ayres, a senior writer at the Australian Financial Review, dive into the crisis facing Australia’s insurance market. They address the alarming rise in premiums due to climate change and inflation. Paula emphasizes the need for a rethink in disaster insurance, while James highlights the social dilemmas of unaffordability. Together, they explore the balance between market profits and social protection, advocating for systemic changes to ensure the insurance landscape remains viable and fair.

Nov 6, 2025 • 30min
But what if the AI bubble doesn’t burst?
Michael Pascoe, a seasoned finance editor and Reserve Bank observer, teams up with Nikki Hutley, an independent economist and former senior advisor with a focus on climate policy. They delve into the Reserve Bank's pause on rate cuts amidst growing uncertainties and the bubbling AI market. The conversation explores the implications of rising AI investments, potential job disruptions, and the challenges of maintaining economic stability amid inflation. They also discuss historical market bubbles and what future policies may be needed to tackle these evolving dynamics.

Oct 30, 2025 • 29min
Why the official inflation rate feels wrong
Kevin Fox, head of the UNSW Centre for Applied Economic Research, and Amy Oster, former Treasury economist and head of Policy Institute Australia, discuss the nuances behind the rising official inflation rate. They explore how perceptions of inflation can differ from reality due to frequently purchased items feeling more impactful. Kevin explains the complexities of the Consumer Price Index (CPI) and the recent integration of scanner data to improve accuracy. They also highlight the importance of rough price shifts since COVID and the need for ongoing adjustments in economic measures.

Oct 23, 2025 • 30min
Australia is 'freaking amazing' - will that last?
Justin Wolfers, an economist and public policy professor, discusses Australia’s economic success, attributing high living standards to strong institutions. He contrasts Australia's inclusive institutions with Argentina's extractive ones. Nikki Hutley, a macroeconomist and Climate Council councillor, highlights issues of inequality and climate inaction. Both guests emphasize the need to defend these institutions and advocate for a cooperative mindset over zero-sum thinking. Despite challenges, they express hope for Australia's future and the potential to export its model.

Oct 16, 2025 • 30min
'Sexually transmitted tax debt'
Hidden debts, coercive control — and why the tax system can punish people most in need of help.

Oct 9, 2025 • 30min
The great Australian wealth gap
The rich keep getting richer while millions are falling behind. What future awaits us all?

Oct 2, 2025 • 30min
Superannuation: Are We Saving More Than We Need?
Most Australians die with more money than they retired with. Are we squirrelling away too much into super — and if so, who benefits?

Sep 25, 2025 • 30min
Each Generation Better Off?
Every Australian generation has expected to be more prosperous, healthier and safer than the last. But the latest national wellbeing data tells a more complicated story.

Sep 18, 2025 • 29min
Australia's 2035 Climate Target: Economic Hit or Miss?
In this discussion, Anna Scarbeck, Chief Executive of ClimateWorks, and Michael Yander, ABC Business Editor, delve into Australia's ambitious 2035 climate target. They debate the balance between political caution and scientific ambition, exploring the economic implications of meeting these goals. The conversation highlights various policy options, including carbon pricing and sector plans, while assessing the urgency of action in light of potential economic risks. Their insights reveal whether this target is a strategic move or a missed opportunity.


