AI and the Future of Law

Practising Law Institute
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Jun 10, 2025 • 47min

What Just Happened? Google, OpenAI, Anthropic, and the AI Firehose

Episode Highlights(03:27) Bridget’s AI Aha: Building “Bridget’s Second Brain” using ChatGPT and Microsoft tools(11:05) Jen’s AI Aha: AI itineraries, sci-fi style research, and nail polish via ChatGPT(17:30) What Just Happened: The firehose of announcements from Google I/O(24:28) Claude Opus 4 and the “grown, not built” philosophy at Anthropic(37:59) Microsoft’s AI plumbing: Connecting court systems and scaling impact(41:08) OpenAI & Jony Ive: Rethinking hardware for a world beyond screensEpisode DescriptionIs it possible to keep up with AI when the pace of innovation feels like a firehose? Jen Leonard and Bridget McCormack recap an extraordinary week of AI announcements from Google, OpenAI, Microsoft, and Anthropic—and explain why every lawyer should be paying attention. From Claude Opus 4’s “grown, not built” philosophy to Sam Altman’s $6.5B play to redesign hardware with Jony Ive, the future of AI is arriving fast—and it's already changing how legal professionals work.Bridget shares how ChatGPT helped her build a personal “Second Brain” for organizing professional chaos, while Jen experiments with AI trip planning, voice-mode research, and on-the-go translation. They also dive into the generational shift in how engineers and researchers think about innovation—“We’ll solve for that”—and why the legal world needs to adopt that mindset.If you’ve been waiting for the right moment to explore AI tools, this is your wake-up call. Because the most important takeaway from this episode? You’re not too late. But you don’t want to fall further behind.Key TakeawaysGoogle isn’t just adding AI—they’re rebuilding their entire ecosystem around it. With Gemini integrated into search, docs, and even hardware, the tools lawyers already use are becoming AI-native by default.Claude Opus 4 Isn’t Just Smart—It’s Reflective: With its “grown, not built” mindset, Claude challenges how we understand AI. It’s not about perfect outputs—it’s about persistent, deep reasoning over time, something law needs but rarely builds for.Microsoft’s AI Infrastructure Fix: Microsoft’s announcements focused on data plumbing—connecting siloed systems in courts and governments. It may not be sexy, but it’s foundational for real change in justice delivery.OpenAI + Jony Ive = No More Screens?: With a $6.5B move to reimagine AI hardware, OpenAI is chasing the next interface revolution—wearables, voice-first tools, and frictionless access to intelligence, far beyond the browser.We’ll Solve for That” Is the Mindset Law Needs: Engineers assume problems are solvable. Lawyers assume problems are risks. That cultural mismatch is why the legal field lags in AI adoption—and what needs to change first.It’s Not Too Late. Catch Up Fast: The AI tools are here, and most people haven’t used them. Starting today puts you just weeks behind the front of the pack—not years. There’s still time to lead, not lag.KeywordsAI in law, OpenAI, Anthropic, Claude Opus 4, Microsoft Copilot, Gemini, Jony Ive, ChatGPT voice mode, legal innovation, legal tech, AI, court system integration, AI safety, AGI, future of work, AI strategy, innovation mindset2030 Vision: AI and the Future of Law is your essential podcast for understanding how artificial intelligence is revolutionizing the legal industry. Hosted by Bridget McCormack and Jen Leonard, each episode delves into cutting-edge technologies, trends, and strategies, providing invaluable insights for legal professionals, tech enthusiasts, and anyone curious about the future of law. Join us as we navigate the evolving landscape of AI, empowering the legal community to thrive in an era of unprecedented innovation.Produced by Aaron Tran for the American Arbitration Association Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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May 27, 2025 • 38min

The UK Just Approved an AI-Only Law Firm. Is the U.S. Ready?

In this episode of 2030 Vision, Jen Leonard and Bridget McCormack explore OpenAI’s surprising executive reshuffle, Google's declining grip on search to the UK’s official authorization of Garfield Law, the first an AI-native law firm.Jen and Bridget analyze the implications of Garfield AI's regulatory approval, the practical limits of paraprofessional models in the U.S., and how agile regulation could unlock innovation while maintaining public trust. They also examine the concept of Jae Um’s "Bionic Boutiques", law firms that blend elite legal expertise with AI-powered agents and debate how this model could redefine leverage, value, and access to justice.They share personal insights on using AI to evaluate website quality and prepare for a live television interview, while reflecting on broader shifts in legal education, practice, and client service as the profession adapts to a world rapidly approaching AGI.Episode Highlights:(2:54) Bridget’s AI Aha! From foraging on the Appalachian Trail to prepping for live TV, Bridget shares how AI helped identify mushrooms and simulate interview feedback.(4:48) Jen’s AI Aha! Jen runs her website through Ogilvy’s marketing taxonomy—then gets ChatGPT to tailor it for legal audiences. Game-changer for law firm sites.(7:03) What Just Happened at OpenAI OpenAI appoints a second CEO. Are they splitting responsibilities ahead of AGI? And what does it mean for the future of applications?(12:38) Google’s Antitrust Trial & Search Decline Apple execs reveal Google Search usage is dropping—for the first time in 20 years. Is AI replacing traditional search?(15:58) Garfield AI: UK’s First AI-Only Law Firm Meet Garfield Law: approved by UK regulators to deliver legal services entirely through AI. What does this mean for U.S. regulation?(29:58) Bionic Boutiques & the Future of Legal Practice Jae Um’s bold predictions: $10K/hour partners, AI agents doing associate work, and billion-dollar firms with zero overhead. Are bionic boutiques the next big shift?Key Discussion Points:OpenAI's structural shakeup and the race toward AGIGoogle’s search engine under threat from AI tools like ChatGPT and PerplexityRegulatory differences between the U.S. and UK on legal AI toolsGarfield Law: The first AI-native law firm approved to practiceThe future of legal service delivery: Bionic boutiques and paraprofessionalsWhat legal education and junior roles might look like in an AI worldKeywords: AI in law, Garfield Law, OpenAI, AGI, regulation, bionic boutiques, legal tech, legal education, Google vs ChatGPT, access to justice, future of workAbout the Podcast: 2030 Vision: AI and the Future of Law is your essential guide to how artificial intelligence is transforming the legal profession. Hosted by Bridget McCormack and Jen Leonard, this podcast dives into cutting-edge AI technologies, their applications, and the trends shaping the future of law. Join us to stay informed, inspired, and prepared for the AI revolution.Produced by: Aaron Tran for the American Arbitration Association. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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May 13, 2025 • 41min

Can AI Be More Persuasive Than a Human Lawyer?

A captivating study reveals that AI bots are far more persuasive than human lawyers, even convincing Reddit users with ease. As AI technologies like OpenAI’s O3 reshape legal argumentation, the hosts delve into how these advancements challenge traditional advocacy. They discuss the evolving role of memory-enabled AI in legal workflows and highlight the dangers of AI bias in generated content. With clients and judges likely utilizing AI, the podcast poses critical questions about the future of law and the necessary adaptations for legal professionals.
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Apr 29, 2025 • 30min

The Ethics of AI in Lawyering: Is It Unethical Not to Use AI?

Is it possible that not using AI could soon be seen as unethical for lawyers? Bridget McCormack and Jen Leonard dive into two recent Georgia cases where savvy use of AI helped lawyers win major verdicts and why these examples could signal a turning point in professional responsibility.Along the way, Bridget shares her AI "aha" moment with ChatGPT acting as a woods guide (and porcupine expert), while Jen explores how AI’s voice mode turbocharged her workflow. They also unpack the provocative AI 2027 Report, which predicts a near-future explosion of superintelligent AI and its impact on law, society, and ethics.From personal injury trials to global AI arms races, this episode challenges listeners to reimagine what “competence” looks like in a rapidly evolving profession and why AI isn’t just a tool, but a future teammate you can’t afford to ignore.Episode Highlights:(02:54) Bridget’s AI Aha: Using ChatGPT as a nature guide and getting schooled on porcupines(05:49) Jen’s AI Aha: Voice-mode website editing and using ElevenLabs for hands-free learning(9:50) What Just Happened: Exploring the AI 2027 Report and the path to superintelligence(19:16) Lawyers, Ethics, and AI: Two Georgia cases show why ethical duties may be shifting(23:45) Rethinking Client Advocacy: Why using AI could become a new professional mandateKey Discussion Points:How AI is changing everyday problem-solving and new ways AI assistants boost productivity and creativity in professional work.The AI 2027 Forecast: Why researchers believe super intelligent AI could arrive by 2027—and what that means for law and society.Two medical malpractice cases illustrate how AI-assisted research and storytelling can transform trial outcomes.Why integrating AI thoughtfully may soon be required for ethical, client-centered lawyering.What rising anxiety around AI means for lawyers and their clients.How AI levels the playing field for plaintiffs’ lawyers, solo practitioners, and small firms.Keywords:AI and law, legal ethics, AI 2027 report, superintelligence, legal tech, ChatGPT, ElevenLabs, legal innovation, plaintiff lawyering, change management, client-centered lawyering, trial strategy, research automation, professional responsibility, future of work, AI accelerationAbout the Podcast:2030 Vision: AI and the Future of Law is your essential guide to how artificial intelligence is transforming the legal profession. Hosted by Bridget McCormack and Jen Leonard, this podcast dives into cutting-edge AI technologies, their applications, and the trends shaping the future of law. Join us to stay informed, inspired, and prepared for the AI revolution.Produced by: Aaron Tran for the American Arbitration Association. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Apr 15, 2025 • 38min

Future-Proofing Your Law Firm: Lessons from AI Benchmarking

Bridget McCormack and Jen Leonard dive into the fascinating world of AI's role in law, showcasing insights from the VAL benchmarking report. They discuss how AI tools not only rival but sometimes outperform human lawyers in efficiency. The concept of 'cybernetic teammates' is explored, highlighting AI's potential to boost collaboration and morale. The conversation shifts to the future of legal practice, where AI may dismantle traditional specializations and reshape junior lawyer development, urging legal leaders to embrace transformative change.
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Apr 1, 2025 • 32min

Live from Legal Week 2025: Unveiling a New AI Course for Lawyers

In this special discussion, co-hosts unveil a groundbreaking AI course tailored for legal professionals. They emphasize the importance of mindset over mere tools in driving innovation. The conversation highlights the need for a culture of curiosity and adaptability within law firms. They explore the role of leadership in fostering collaboration and navigating the rapidly evolving legal landscape. Listeners can expect practical takeaways on integrating AI into legal education, making them proactive change agents in their fields.
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Mar 18, 2025 • 39min

Law Firms Want AI-Ready Lawyers: So Why Aren’t They Hiring Them?

The discussion centers on AI's transformative role in the legal profession, emphasizing the need for transparency and leadership. Personal experiences highlight AI's efficiency in legal work and the demanding skills for future lawyers. Recent advancements in AI models, including Google's innovations and upcoming iterations, are examined. The potential impact of artificial general intelligence on society is explored, alongside the necessity for legal education to pivot towards human-centric skills. The importance of ethical reasoning is underscored as legal practitioners adapt to this evolving landscape.
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Mar 4, 2025 • 42min

AI in Legal Research: The Battle Over Copyright and Innovation

Discover the monumental $97.4 billion bid by Elon Musk for OpenAI and its implications for the legal landscape. Delve into the landmark Thomson Reuters v. Ross AI case that could redefine AI training data and copyright. Explore how OpenAI's new Deep Research tool is changing the game for legal research, boosting efficiency but raising questions about legal paywalls. The podcast also addresses the divide in AI adoption among law firms and the future impact of AI on legal services and education.
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Feb 18, 2025 • 44min

Generative AI and the Courts: Expanding Legal Access or Opening the Floodgates?

In this episode of 2030 Vision: AI and the Future of Law, Bridget McCormack and Jen Leonard explore how AI is reshaping legal access, communication, and decision-making. They discuss OpenAI’s Deep Research tool and DeepSeq’s disruptive AI model, which could democratize AI and challenge big tech.Beyond law, they examine AI’s growing role in healthcare and education, while emphasizing that human expertise remains crucial in legal processes. They also tackle how AI-driven tools can lower legal costs, expand access to justice, and streamline dispute resolution, particularly for low-dollar claims that often go unresolved.While some fear AI will flood courts with frivolous lawsuits, Bridget and Jen argue its real potential lies in making legal services more accessible. With governments and startups investing in AI-powered legal solutions, the profession faces a turning point—one that demands innovation while ensuring fairness and efficiency.AI in Law: The Communication Challenge: How legal professionals can better explain AI’s impact and bridge knowledge gaps.The Human Element in Legal Processes: Why procedural fairness and human connection remain central to justice.Generative AI’s Role in Healthcare & Education: AI as a diagnostic assistant and self-directed learning tool.DeepSeq’s Disruption: A new AI player that could democratize development and challenge the US-China AI race.AI as a 24/7 Thought Partner: Using AI for legal strategy, research, and professional development.Expanding Access to Justice: AI-driven platforms are helping individuals file claims and resolve disputes more efficiently.Balancing Innovation & System Integrity: Addressing concerns about frivolous lawsuits while enhancing legitimate legal claims.AI & Government Solutions: How policymakers and public institutions can use AI to modernize legal infrastructure.Keywords: AI, Law, Generative AI, Legal Profession, Communication, Education, Healthcare, Deepseq, DeepSeek Technology, AI Infrastructure, OpenAI, Legal Access, Legal Tech, Court Services, Dispute Resolution, DemocratizationAbout the Podcast: 2030 Vision: AI and the Future of Law is your essential guide to how artificial intelligence is transforming the legal profession. Hosted by Bridget McCormack and Jen Leonard, this podcast dives into cutting-edge AI technologies, their applications, and the trends shaping the future of law. Join us to stay informed, inspired, and prepared for the AI revolution.Produced by: Aaron Tran for the American Arbitration Association. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Feb 4, 2025 • 40min

AI and the Future of Legal Jobs: What Law Firms Must Do to Stay Competitive

In this episode of 2030 Vision: AI and the Future of Law, Bridget McCormack and Jen Leonard explore how artificial intelligence is reshaping the legal job market and what law firms must do to stay competitive. They dive into the World Economic Forum’s Jobs Report 2025 and the Thomson Reuters & Georgetown Report on the State of the Legal Market, breaking down the key findings and their implications for legal professionals.From the rise of AI-powered legal roles to the leadership challenges law firms face, the hosts discuss the critical skills lawyers will need, the importance of AI strategies at the C-suite level, and how firms can prepare for the coming transformation. With law firms experiencing record profits yet facing mounting pressure to innovate, this episode highlights why 2025 is a pivotal year for the profession.AI Aha! Moment: How AI is Transforming Legal Research: The hosts share their AI insights for the week, including how generative AI is being used for legal research, document analysis, and strategic decision-making.Defining Persona Prompting & AAA’s AI Innovation Initiative: The hosts explore the concept of persona prompting—how lawyers can use AI to simulate different perspectives, enhance client interactions, and refine legal strategies. They also introduce the American Arbitration Association’s new AI initiative, which focuses on helping legal organizations navigate generative AI, implement change management strategies, and upskill their teams for the future.AI and the Future of Legal Jobs: The World Economic Forum’s Jobs Report predicts major shifts in employment, with legal roles evolving due to AI automation and the demand for new skill sets.Law Firm Strategy in 2025: The Thomson Reuters & Georgetown Report highlights that while law firms had a strong financial year, only half have begun integrating AI strategy at the leadership level—creating a growing divide in the market.Upskilling and Adaptation: With nearly 40% of workers’ core skills expected to change by 2030, legal professionals must embrace analytical thinking, emotional intelligence, and AI literacy to remain competitive.The Innovator’s Dilemma in Law: Law firms face the challenge of balancing immediate financial success with long-term strategic innovation—risking stagnation if they fail to invest in AI-driven transformation.AI as a Competitive Advantage: Forward-thinking firms are leveraging AI to enhance client services, streamline legal research, and improve operational efficiency—while those lagging behind may struggle to attract top talent.Leadership in the AI Era: Effective law firm leaders will need curiosity, courage, and humility to guide their firms through the rapid changes ahead. Successful firms will foster collaboration across legal, tech, and business professionals to shape the future of legal services.Keywords: AI, Legal Jobs, Law Firm Strategy, AI Leadership, Future of Legal Work, AI Upskilling, AI in Law, Legal Market Trends, World Economic Forum Jobs Report, Thomson Reuters Legal Market Report, Legal Technology, Legal Innovation, AI and Law Firms, AI Adoption in Law, Future of Work in Law, AI TransformationAbout the Podcast: 2030 Vision: AI and the Future of Law is your essential guide to understanding how artificial intelligence is reshaping the legal profession. Hosted by Bridget McCormack and Jen Leonard, this podcast dives into cutting-edge AI technologies, their applications, and the trends shaping the future of law. Join us to stay informed, inspired, and prepared for the AI revolution.Produced by: Aaron Tran for the American Arbitration Association. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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