
Emerge: Making Sense of What's Next
A podcast based inquiry into the next phase of the human experiment.
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Jun 13, 2019 • 1h 16min
Intermission with Both/And - Podcasting as a Spiritual Practice
An inside baseball podcast about podcasting with Jason Snyder and Jared Janes of the Both/And podcast.
We chat about what we are seeing in the emerging [metamodern/metasystematic/metarational] subculture, skillful disagreement, and how podcasting can be a practice of personal growth and transformation.
Jared and Jason's Favorite Episodes so far:
Both/And #6 with Euvie Ivanova - http://bothand.libsyn.com/6-thriving-in-modernity-with-euvie-ivanova
Both/And #11 with David Collins - http://bothand.libsyn.com/11-simply-awake-with-david-collins

May 20, 2019 • 1h 29min
Dr. Douglas Tataryn - Emotions in Meditation and Human Development
Dr. Douglas Tataryn, a clinical psychologist, discusses emotional healing, meditation, and human development. Topics include the role of emotions in meditation obstructing concentration, the difference between feelings and emotions, the healing power of crying, language in emotional access, moving through developmental stages, and dealing with deep emotional issues. The conversation also touches on societal phenomena like social justice warriors and the importance of emotional intelligence in intellectual settings.

May 13, 2019 • 1h 29min
Catherine McGee - Soulmaking in Collapse
My guest today is Catherine McGee. Catherine has been teaching Insight Meditation retreats internationally since 1999, and since 2014 has been collaborating with Rob Burbea in shaping and teaching the Soulmaking Dharma. In this conversation we explore how the Soulmaking Dharma can open up our relationship to the topic of collapse and possible human extinction.
We talk about Catherine's experience participating in the Extinction Rebellion through the lens of the Soulmaking Dharma, the weaving together of justice and soul and beauty in a time of crisis, the eros-psyche-logos dynamic, the difference between suffering (dukkha) in the classical Buddhist context and in the Soulmaking Dharma, and the possibility of enchanting catastrophe.
Catherine McGee : Key Ideas of a Soulmaking Dharma (Part 1 - The Why and
What) - https://dharmaseed.org/talks/audio_player/41/51516.html
Catherine McGee : Key Ideas of a Soulmaking Dharma (Part 2 - The
Eros-Psyche-Logos Dynamic) - https://dharmaseed.org/talks/audio_player/41/51517.html
Soulmaking Dharma Email List - http://www.soulmakingdharma.net
Monastic Academy Circling Intensive - https://eventbrite.com/e/circling-social-meditation-retreat-july-19-25-2019-tickets-60579783764

May 6, 2019 • 1h 11min
Jeremy Johnson - Jean Gebser & Mutating Consciousness in the Anthropocene
Todays guest is Jeremy Johnson. Jeremy is the author of the new book 'Seeing Through the World: Jean Gebser and Integral Consciousness'. Jeremy is also the host of the wonderful Mutations podcast, and the editor of the anthology Mutations: Art, Consciousness, and the Anthropocene.
Together we explore Gebser’s idea of ‘origin’, the move from the non-perspectival to perspectival to aperspectival consciousness (aka integral), the way creative innovations emerge out of presence, Gebser’s relationship with metamodernism, the difficulty of trying to articulate anything beyond the mental structure of consciousness, how to experience the past and the future in the present, and feeling our way into the diaphanous nature of the anthropocene.
Seeing Through the World (Amazon)
Mutations Podcast
Circling Intensive at the Monastic Academy

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Apr 29, 2019 • 1h 25min
John Vervaeke - The Meaning Crisis
Today's guest is John Vervaeke, PhD. John is an award-winning lecturer at the University of Toronto in the departments of psychology, cognitive science and Buddhist psychology. John joins Emerge to discuss the meaning crisis, it's consequences, and how we might design ecologies of practice to chart a path to new vistas of meaningfulness.
We cover: what is the meaning crisis, how does the meaning crisis intersect with the ecological and political crisis, how our consciousness prioritizes what is most meaningful out of the totality of perception and how much flexibility we have in adjusting and transforming what we find meaningful, why it’s problematic to ‘unbundle’ and decontextualize practices like mindfulness from a larger integrated ecology of practice, how everything from literacy to rationality to mindfulness could be considered a ‘psychotechnology’, what the highest leverage practices for resolving the meaning-crisis in our own lives, how to think about building the religions of the future, why new communities of practice ought to focus on process instead of personality, John’s own journey in amplifying the meaning in life, and how our bodies can function as ‘meaningfulness’ compasses in our lives.
Awakening from the Meaning Crisis

Apr 22, 2019 • 1h 39min
Skinner Layne - Embracing Collapse: Transforming Tragedy into Meaningfulness
My guest today is Skinner Layne. Skinner is the founder of Exosphere, a learning & problem-solving community and startup laboratory.
We talk about how collapse is woven into the DNA of our system, how those who grew up in the modern west are equivalent to trust fund babies, why marxism dies from cancer, fascism dies from heart attack and consumerism dies from diabetes, how Apple is the perfection of fascist production and marxist aesthetics, why preserving the status quo is unacceptable, how collapse is more like falling down a hill than falling off a cliff...and why it may be a good idea to head down the hill preemptively, before you are pushed.
Outro music by Danny J

Apr 18, 2019 • 39min
Making Sense of Jem Bendell and Vinay Gupta with Bonnitta Roy
A short making sense episode with frequent guest of the show Bonnitta Roy. We have a chat about the recent episodes with Jem Bendell and Vinay Gupta, and how what new paths forward may lie in the wake of the collapse narrative.

Apr 15, 2019 • 29min
Making Sense of Jem Bendell and Vinay Gupta with Peter Park
A short making sense episode with friend and fellow monastic Peter Park. We have a chat about the recent episodes with Jem Bendell and Vinay Gupta, and how the idea of collapse is playing out in our own lives.

Apr 8, 2019 • 1h 10min
Vinay Gupta - Waking Up in the Monster Factory (pt. 2)
This episode's guest is Vinay Gupta (@leashless). Vinay is the founder of Mattereum, the creator of the hexayurt, and part of the team that launched the Ethereum project. Vinay is also a deep spiritual practitioner, and in this two part episode we explore the intersection of awakening, social collapse, and the possibility of human extinction.
We talk about Vinay’s esoteric spiritual path and subsequent awakening to the planetary crisis, why we ought to abandon all causes except the avoidance of total human extinction, why our situation is not just a repackaged mythical eschatology, why the victors of global capitalism are becoming the new losers, why we live in a ‘monster factory’, the reality that poverty IS collapse, why love is not enough, why a UBI might be the best thing we can do to escape the worst impacts of collapse, Vinay’s critique of the idea of ‘consciousness revolution’ as a real solution to the problems of a world, the problem with the mindfulness and yoga movements in the West, why anything that’s not leading towards enlightenment is not spiritual practice, why Salvador Dali is a Buddha, what expression of awakening can serve in a planetary crisis, why grace is a form of ‘not giving a fuck’, how to get in touch with the hellish aspect of the world, and why we need to 'saw off' the 60s.
This is part two of a two part conversation.
Outro music by Danny J.

Apr 1, 2019 • 55min
Vinay Gupta - Waking Up in the Monster Factory (pt. 1)
This episode's guest is Vinay Gupta (@leashless). Vinay is the founder of Mattereum, the creator of the hexayurt, and part of the team that launched the Ethereum project. Vinay is also a deep spiritual practitioner, and in this two part episode we explore the intersection of awakening, social collapse, and the possibility of human extinction. We talk about Vinay’s esoteric spiritual path and subsequent awakening to the planetary crisis, why we ought to abandon all causes except the avoidance of total human extinction, why our situation is not just a repackaged mythical eschatology, why the victors of global capitalism are becoming the new losers, why we live in a ‘monster factory’, the reality that poverty IS collapse, why love is not enough, why a UBI might be the best thing we can do to escape the worst impacts of collapse, Vinay’s critique of the idea of ‘consciousness revolution’ as a real solution to the problems of a world, the problem with the mindfulness and yoga movements in the West, why anything that’s not leading towards enlightenment is not spiritual practice, why Salvador Dali is a Buddha, what expression of awakening can serve in a planetary crisis, why grace is a form of ‘not giving a fuck’, how to get in touch with the hellish aspect of the world, and why we need to 'saw off' the 60s. This is part one of a two part conversation. Outro music by Danny J.
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