

Cutting the Curd
Heritage Radio Network
Featuring interviews with notable cheesemakers, cheesemongers, and cheese-lovers, Cutting the Curd is an informative, occasionally irreverent, but always cheesy look at the curdy, the nerdy, and the downright funky world of artisan cheese.
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Jul 19, 2013 • 28min
Episode 144: Arattom Dairy
Hear from former Saxelby Cheesemonger Jon Bonanno on the latest episode of Cutting the Curd. Jon has worn a variety of hats in the cheese world: farm assistant at Consider Bardwell, cheesemonger at Saxelby Cheesemongers and Cavaniola’s Tribeca, and cheesemaker at Rainbeau Ridge Farm in Bedford Hills (the farm of Lisa Schwartz, maker of the awardwinning Meridian), as well as an active home cheesemaker.After a couple years as a parttime assistant cheesemaker, he arranged to lease the cheesemaking facility at Rainbeau Ridge when Schwartz recently decided to take a sabbatical. He is now — under the name Arattom Dairy — producing the ash-coated Cinder (roughly based on the Meridian recipe) and fresh chevres, as well as developing a variety of tommes, fetas and more that will be coming to market soon. Rainbeau is a true farmstead facility: while you stand in the make room, the bleats of the goats in the nearby enclosures are audible and each day the milk travels just a few hundred feet from milking parlor to vat. When Schwartz went on sabbatical, the herd was reduced from 40 to 14, although the biggest producers were kept, so milk production dropped by just 30 percent. Due to limited space, the goats are fed hay supplemented with grains rather than pastured, but live comfortable lives spent mostly lounging in shade; the quality of the milk attests to that. Jon’s interactions with the animals are limited due to his full cheesemaking schedule, but he hopes to expand his role and is interested in the possibilities of new partnerships between cheesemakers and farmers. Cutting the Curd is underwritten by The Dairy Farm Families of Wisconsin, the Wisconsin Milk Marketing Board.
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Jul 12, 2013 • 31min
Episode 143: Wisconsin Master Cheesemakers Program
Find out what it takes to become a Master Cheesemaker on the latest episode of Cutting the Curd. Now in its 18th year, the Wisconsin Master Cheesemaker® program is the only one of its kind outside of Europe. For cheesemakers, it provides the opportunity to reach the highest levels of their craft. For buyers, it provides unparalleled quality assurance, innovation and expertise. Administered from the Center for Dairy Research at the University of Wisconsin-Madison, the program is open to veteran Wisconsin cheesemakers with a minimum of 10 years experience in Quality Assured plants. Candidates can seek certification for up to two cheese varieties each time they enter the three-year program. They must have been making those specific varieties for at least five years. To talk further on the program is Dean Sommer who serves as a technical resource to the industry regarding cheese, whey products and processing. He assists manufacturers as well as their customers by serving as a consultant and educator. Dean is often involved with trouble shooting, public and private company short courses and is able to consult on issues regarding processing and product defects. He has more than 18 years of experience in the industry, having worked at one of the largest cheese and whey product facilities in the U.S. Cutting the Curd is underwritten by The Dairy Farm Families of Wisconsin, the Wisconsin Milk Marketing Board.
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Jun 28, 2013 • 39min
Episode 142: Canal Junction Farmstead Cheese
Meet Brian Schlatter from Canal Junction Farmstead Cheese, where the higest quality milk is turned into delicious Handmade – Artisan – Raw Milk cheese. Their philosophy is to not only create cheese that is good for you, but also taste wonderful. The cheeses take on their own unique taste and attributes that come from the land on which the cheese is produced. Tune into an informative episode of Cutting the Curd as Brian chats about farming, explains their cheesemaking process, the genesis of Canal Junction and future plans! This program was sponsored by Academie Opus Caseus.
“You want about 3-4 days of sunny skies with no chance of precipitation ever when you’re cutting hay. If molds grow in the hay cows can get sick or it can pass through to the milk.” [27:00]
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Jun 21, 2013 • 38min
Episode 141: Pizza a Casa
Pizza a Casa Pizza School officially opened its doors April 15th, 2010 at 371 Grand Street on New York City’s historic Lower East Side. Since opening, Mark and his wife, Jenny, have been teaching sold-out pizza-making classes to thousands of students from all over the world. Together with their students and the Pizza a Casa team, the home ovens in their classroom have produced more than 15,000 pizzas (as of Spring 2013). On Cutting the Curd, learn about their groundbreaking pizza app, and hear the story of how the decided to make education their outlet. This program was sponsored by Academie Opus Caseus
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Jun 14, 2013 • 33min
Episode 140: Book Review: The Life of Cheese
Heather Paxson views cheese through an anthropological lens in her book, The Life of Cheese. On this week’s Cutting the Curd Book Review, Diane Stemple invites Heather into the studio to discuss cheese- from its creation to its consumption. Find out why Heather first became fascinated with American artisan cheese in New York City’s Greenmarkets. Learn about the research that went into Heather’s book, and how she visited small farms and famous fromageries. Heather and Diane also tackle the misconception that new artisan cheesemakers are elitist; hear how ‘the food movement’ accommodates for everyone from blue collar workers to artists. What ethics are involved in cheesemaking, and what risks threaten ‘the food movement’? Tune into this episode to learn more about the industrialization of cheese and the prospect of reinventing the food system! This program has been sponsored by Academie Opus Caseus. Thanks to Pamela Royal for today’s music.
“People are realizing that things have happened to our food system without even realizing it, and they aren’t willing to take it for granted anymore.” [4:10]
“Like any food, cheese is a complex cultural artifact saturated with ethics and politics.” [pg. 214, The Life of Cheese]
— Heather Paxson on Cutting the Curd
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Jun 7, 2013 • 39min
Episode 139: Mystic Cheese Company & The 4th Annual Cheesemonger Invitational
On a brand new episode of Cutting the Curd, discover Mystic Cheese & The 4th Annual Cheesemonger Invitational. Led by Jason Sobocinski and Brian Civitello, The Mystic Cheese Company is composed of highly skilled and and trained cheese experts using science and art to bring milk on a metamorphic jouney to pure deliouness. In the Spring of 2013 Mystic Cheese began releasing 5 handcrafted fresh and soft ripened American original cheeses. In addtion to their cheeses they have an innovative production and marketing infrastructure that will open up new possibilities in the wonderworld of artisan cheese. Organized by Adam Moskowitz, The 4th Annual Cheesemonger Invitational is where cheesemongers from around the country flex their minds and muscle in a battle of cheese skill and will. Tune in for the run down on both of these incredible worlds and continue your radio cheese exploration! This program was sponsored by Academie Opus Caseus.
“I want these people to take the cheese and cook with them, do things with them and have a good time with them – not just put them on a cheese pedestal.” [13:00]
–Jason Sobocinski of Mystic Cheese Company on Cutting the Curd
“The best way to learn in this game is just to go out and do it. If you think it’s hard work being a cheesemonger on your feet – try cheesemaking!” [21:00]
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May 31, 2013 • 35min
Episode 138: Book Review: The Animal Farm Buttermilk Cookbook
On this month’s special book review edition of Cutting the Curd with special guest host Diane Stemple, listeners are introduced to Diane St. Clair, the author of The Animal Farm Buttermilk Cookbook: Recipes and Reflections from a Small Vermont Dairy. The yet to be released book offers 100 recipes, from sweet to savory, designed to showcase the best that buttermilk can contribute to food, all set in the context of what it is like to live and work on a small Vermont artisanal dairy. Diane has been making artisanal butter for over a decade and started bottling her buttermilk in 2009. Learn about dairy farming, the wonderful world of buttermilk and the book writing journey Diane embarked on for this project. Today’s program was sponsored by Academie Opus Caseus.
“One of the things that makes my product unique compared to a factory product is that it has a seasonal quality that reflects the milk at different times of the year depending on what my cows are eating.” [10:00]
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May 24, 2013 • 32min
Episode 137: Camp Bacon
It’s time for Camp Bacon! Tune in to this week’s episode of Cutting the Curd as Anne Saxelby chats with Ari Weinzwieg, founder of Zingerman’s and creator of Camp Bacon, a fundraiser in Ann Arbor, MI for Southern Foodways Alliance that brings together Bacon-Lovers, -Makers, Cooks, Curers and anyone who likes to learn, eat and enjoy cured and smoked pork belly. Camp Bacon is four days of all things bacon — eating, learning, listening, tasting and talking; a pork centric party that features everything from poetry to pigs. Camp Bacon convenes on the evening of Thursday May 30, moves through a bacon-laden meal to a bacon tinged music to a day long delight of bacon learning and tasting, concluding on Sunday June 2 with a bacon street fair filled with bacon tasting, bacon crafts, bacon games and all around bacon fun. Find out more here and tune in for bacon goodness! This program was sponsored by Academie Opus Caseus.
“Old breeds will almost always produce a better bacon becuase the flavor of the meat is more interesting.” [16:00]
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May 17, 2013 • 34min
Episode 136: Lauren Melodia of Milk Not Jails
Lauren Melodia aims to link New York dairy farmers and high incarceration rates with her organization, Milk Not Jails. This week on Cutting the Curd, Anne Saxelby sits down with Lauren, founder and co-organizer, to talk about the prison system in New York, and how it connects the urban with the rural. How do prisons bolster New York’s rural economy? Find out how government support for dairy farms as opposed to prisons creates a sustainable economy. Learn how a lack of processing and bottling plants limits production for small dairy farmers. Find out what Milk Not Jails aims to do to support local dairy farmers and help reform the prison system simultaneously. This program has been sponsored by White Oak Pastures. Thanks to Pamela Royal for today’s musical interlude.
“The processing world has shut its doors to farmers who want to be entrepreneurial in their industries.” [25:15] — Lauren Melodia on Cutting the Curd
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May 10, 2013 • 34min
Episode 135: Peter Lovis
As Anne Saxelby continues to explore the lives and careers of Cheesemongers across the nation on Cutting the Curd, this week she checks in with Peter Lovis, the warm and charismatic proprietor of the Concord Cheese Shop in New England. Hear his cheese journey and find out why he thinks it’s absolutely necessary to have a face to face interaction with the people selling you your cheese – not a digital relationship. Find out why cut to order is always better and what makes raw milk cheeses so special! This program was sponsored by Academie Opus Caseus.
“Now to be a cheesemogner is actually an honorable profession!” [4:00]
“How can you buy cheese on the internet!? It’s so wrong to me I can’t fathom how anybody would do it!” [30:00]
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