

Cutting the Curd
Heritage Radio Network
Featuring interviews with notable cheesemakers, cheesemongers, and cheese-lovers, Cutting the Curd is an informative, occasionally irreverent, but always cheesy look at the curdy, the nerdy, and the downright funky world of artisan cheese.
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Dec 15, 2014 • 41min
Episode 204: Drunken Cheese Stories
This week on Cutting the Curd, host Greg Blais is talking drunken cheese stories with guests Charlotte Kamin and Nate McEllroy of Bedford Cheese Shop, and Matt Rubiner of Rubiner’s Cheesemongers & Grocers. Kicking off the show trying to pry some crazy stories from the guests, Greg recalls a few times working slightly hungover and successfully encourages tales from there. Tune in for a fun episode and hear thoughts on the best, worst, and funniest cheese shop customers, as well as the guests’ favorite cheese and alcoholic pairings. This program was brought to you by The Wisconsin Milk Marketing Board.
“My favorite demographic of customer is the arguing couple… and then all of a sudden you’re a relationship mediator!” [14:50]
—Nate McEllroy on Cutting the Curd
“The best alcohol/cheese pairing I ever had was… vintage port and Montgomery’s Cheddar.” [23:10]
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Dec 8, 2014 • 38min
Episode 203: From the Farm to the Cheese Shop: Crystal Food Import
Continuing the discussion about the importance of cheese importers and distributers to the cheese chain, host Greg Blais chats with Stephanie Ciano and Shelli Morton of Crystal Food Import/World’s Best Cheese. Stephanie and Shelli talk about the history of Crystal Food, and how the company has changed the industry and adapted to changes in American cheese culture. During the busy holiday season, cheese shops around the country stock their walk-ins and cheese cases to the brim. Tune in to hear all of the details about how that cheese gets from the farm to the counter from two veterans in the cheese biz. This program was brought to you by The Wisconsin Milk Marketing Board.
“There’s exciting things going on in the cheese world beyond what we know now. I was just reading an amazing article about cheese production in India!” [17:00]
“It’s great to learn your geography from cheese!” [18:45]
—Shelli Morton on Cutting the Curd
“I do think it’s important for retailers to have a close relationship, knowing the product, and being able to reach out to cheese makers.” [23:55]
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Dec 1, 2014 • 45min
Episode 202: From the Farm to the Cheese Shop
This week on Cutting the Curd, co-hosts Greg Blais and Anne Saxelby talk with Adam Moskowitz of Larkin Cold Storage and Debra Dickerson of Tomales Bay Foods. During the busy holiday season, cheese shops around the country stock their walk-ins and cheese cases to the brim. But how does all of this fragile cheese get from the farm to the cheese counter in perfect condition? Tune in to hear all of the details from veteran wholesalers/distributors in the American cheese biz as they talk about how the cheese gets to your local cheese shop. This program was brought to you by The Wisconsin Milk Marketing Board.
“I think helping people understand the scope of the laws and FDA regulations, and working toegher with the FDA to make a good relationship happen, as the American Cheese Society is trying to do, I think is absolutely critical.” [36:00]
—Debra Dickerson on Cutting the Curd
“I’m not here to bash the FDA, what I’m here to do is tell people that those who are not being in a mode of compliance, they’re actually putting us all in jeopardy.” [36:55]
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Nov 24, 2014 • 34min
Episode 201: Cheesy Kickstarter Campaigns
This week on Cutting the Curd, host Diane Stemple is talking Kickstarter campaigns with Sue Miller of Birchrun Hills Farm and Jessica Sennett of Cheese Grotto. First up, Sue Miller talks about her cheese history before delving into the goal of Birchrun Hills’ Kickstarter campaign. As a family-run dairy, they are seeking support in order to build a cheese-making facility (a.k.a. “a cave”) on the farm. The money will go to purchasing a curd vat, shelving (to ripen cheese), and a cooling system for the new aging facility. Sue and her family have been making cheese in a small off-site rental facility for the last seven years and have outgrown the current facility and do not have the space needed to keep up with the growing demand for our cheeses from chefs, farmers’ market customers, and shops around the country. Jessica also shares her background in retail cheese making and explains that she has designed products to help people store and age cheese in their homes. She goes on to add that everyone has had that moment where they reach for a piece of cheese stored in a fridge drawer or on a shelf only to find it covered in mold, stinky (not in a good way) and inedible. As cheese aficionados she and her team have spent the last year thinking about this problem and designing the first line of products: the Cheese Grotto and its little sister, the Cheese Safe. The Kickstarter campaign seeks to help get this project properly off the ground! Tune in to hear all the details behind engaging in Kickstarter campaigns, learn about the guests’ projects, and perhaps even contribute! This program was brought to you by The Wisconsin Milk Marketing Board.
“Every gray hair I have on my head came from the blue cheese.” [2:18]
“Plan B is to make it work – as farmers we are resilient!” [24:18]
—Sue Miller on Cutting the Curd
“With product and product design you need a decent amount of investment up front in order to get the ball rolling.” [25:02
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Nov 17, 2014 • 33min
Episode 200: Cheese Hacks
This week on Cutting the Curd, host Greg Blais is talking cheese hacks! Similar to the popular life hacks, which solve everyday problems using everyday items in an unconventional way, Greg and guest Nadjeeb Chouaf of Flora Artisanal Cheese in Charlottesville, VA chat about shortcuts in cheese. Nadjeeb also opens up about how he became involved in the cheesemongering world and how he came to open his own cheese shop. Kicking off the hacks with some thoughts on parmesan rinds and cheese rinds in general, and how the microwave can be your best friend when it comes to making unique cheese snacks, tune in to learn some interesting tidbits! This program has been brought to you by The Wisconsin Milk Marketing Board.
“The first hack I actually learned as a cheese monger was about parmesan rinds.” [6:10]
“I’m fascinated by this hack. One hour cheese sounds too good to be true.” [20:10]
—Nadjeeb Chouaf on Cutting the CurdSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Nov 10, 2014 • 41min
Episode 199: Cheese and Art: Painting and Photography
This week on Cutting the Curd, host Greg Blais is wrapping up the series on cheese and art discussion cheese in the visual medium, whether that be in photography or painting. Welcoming guest co-host Cara Warren, Cheese Manager and Buyer at Greene Grape Provisions, to the show as well as Mike Geno and Carol Bobolts. Mike Geno is a fine artist from Philadelphia who specializes in realistic paintings of objects such as cheese, bread, bacon, and other types of food. Carol Bobolts leads the Red Herring Design team to bring a love of food (especially cheese!) to culture and has created award-winning designs for a wide range of clients. Talking to Greg and Cara Warren about how they style cheese in their work, as it turns out both have run into the problem that once you cut into cheese, the cheese is a ticking time bomb in appearance. The group goes on to discuss certain magical mistakes made in the cheese world and how what seems like a mishap can often turn into a great tasting cheese, a beautiful looking cheese, or even an amazing shot of cheese. At the tail end of the show, Greg asks the guests how they translate the taste, smell, and texture of cheese through their particular visual medium. Tune in for a great wrap of the cheese and art series on Cutting the Curd. This program was brought to you by The Wisconsin Milk Marketing Board.
“Billy Blue” painted by Mike Geno
“There’s absolutely an art to cheese making.” [20:51]
—Carol Bobolt on Cutting the Curd
“We’re actually giving access to cheese through aesthetics.” [25:35]
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Nov 3, 2014 • 41min
Episode 198: Cheese and Art: Film
Continuing the ongoing series on cheese and art, this week host Greg Blais is talking film on Cutting the Curd! Welcoming co-host Matt Spiegler, a writer, documentarian, and creator of the blog Cheese Notes, the duo kick off the show talking about their recent viewing of the movie, “The Boxtrolls,” and how cheese in general is beginning to become more visible in film but still has a way to go to achieve popularity. Going through a plethora of movies that do feature cheese, the guys discuss if the cheese adds or detracts from the overall message of the film. After the break, Greg and Matt speak with filmmaker Kari Branch and Malinda Beeman, a life-long artist and cheese-maker who is a subject in Kari’s project entitled “Simple As That.” “Simple As That” is a short documentary about a couple choosing to launch their artisan goat cheese business through one of the worst droughts in Texas history as well as personal adversity. Tune in to hear a thorough chat on cheese in film and how this subject is evolving in film culture. This program was brought to you by The Wisconsin Milk Marketing Board.
Meet Marfa Goats by Malinda Beeman
“I think there’s still this very high-low perception of cheese [in film].” [8:33]
—Matt Spiegler on Cutting the Curd
“There aren’t a lot of cheese films out there. I think people may have an idea that cheese isn’t a serious subject.” [32:00]
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Oct 27, 2014 • 39min
Episode 197: Book Review: Di Palo’s Guide to the Essential Foods of Italy
This week on Cutting the Curd, host Diane Stemple welcomes Lou Di Palo of Italian Selects based in Little Italy, NYC and author of the new book, “Di Palo’s Guide to the Essential Foods of Italy.” Talking to Diane about his family’s prominent background in the food industry (Lou’s great-grandfather started their business in 1903!) as well as why he decided to take on writing a book, Lou talks in great detail about making cheese and dairy products like his great-grandfather and father did. Join in to hear highlights of the book as well as delicious discussion on amazing foods courtesy of Italy – led by an expert! This program was brought to you by The Wisconsin Milk Marketing Board.
“I like to call Italy twenty countries in one.” [2:38]
“When you take an interest in something it gets burned into your brain.” [12:11]
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Oct 20, 2014 • 39min
Episode 196: Cheese and Art: Performance
This week Cutting the Curd is continuing its series on cheese and art. Host Greg Blais and co-host Emily Acosta delve into the interesting topic of breast milk cheese with artist Miriam Simun, who has personal experience in this realm. Having started the human cheese project in order to provoke a space for discourse around norms and practices with regard to human exceptionalism, food production, emerging bioavailabilities, and the commodification of bodies, Miriam brings up many questions surrounding the topic that remain to be answered. She goes on to explain how she went about completing the human cheese project with recruiting volunteers to provide necessary ingredients, the actual cheese-making process and the ethics considered with the project. This program was brought to you by The Wisconsin Milk Marketing Board.
“We like to think of food as coming straight from the ground, unadulterated in any way, but on the other hand steak is in a little box where it’s totally removed from the animal part where it came from.” [8:55]
“To me, good art asks good questions and that’s where I was coming from when I was making it.” [18:53]
“I think the world would be a better place if more people saw their cheese as a piece of art.” [20:28]
—Miriam Simun on Cutting the CurdSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Oct 13, 2014 • 39min
Episode 195: Cheese and Art: Music
This week on Cutting the Curd, host Greg Blais and guest co-host Anne Saxelby begin a series talking about cheese and art – how cheese tends to intersect across all platforms. This week in particular, tune in to hear guests Soyoung Scanlan of Andante Dairy and Andy Hatch of Uplands Cheese Company talk about their experiences with cheese and music. Soyoung kicks off the conversation sharing how she has been inspired to combine her love of music to create a unique, multi-sensory experience with her cheese. Andy adds to the conversation, explaining that his approach to making cheese is very similar to making music considering the dedication and repetition required to be great at both. Both guests concur that depending on the time of day and the manner in which they are making cheese influences the styles of music they play. After the break, the group delves into the importance of sound in the cheese making process. This program was brought to you by The Wisconsin Milk Marketing Board.
“As a career changer I’ve [now] combined everything I love.” [11:00]
“When I was making cheese, I was listening to Chopin’s ‘Nocturne’ all the time.” [15:15]
—Soyoung Scanlan on Cutting the Curd
“Practicing music and making cheese days after day requires dedication to repetition.” [19:00]
—Andy Hatch on Cutting the CurdSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.