
F-Stop Collaborate and Listen
This photography podcast takes you well beyond camera gear each week with weekly interviews and panel discussions with professional photographers, industry insiders, enthusiasts, and hobbyists alike. Our candid but laid-back conversations deeply explore the craft of photography and psychological drivers relating to creativity, motivation, inspiration, and workflow. We also discuss social media, photography business practices, marketing, sales, and hot topics impacting photographers from all genres, with a particular focus on landscape, nature, and wildlife photography. The show is hosted by Matt Payne, a professional full-time nature photographer and the co-founder of the internationally renowned photography competition, the Natural Landscape Photography Awards. Matt is also a mountaineer, climbing the highest 100 mountains in Colorado. Matt leverages skills he gained in pursuit of his Master’s Degree in Clinical Psychology to dig deeply into the hearts and minds of his passionate guests, revealing secrets and inspiration in every episode.
Latest episodes

Feb 3, 2021 • 1h 7min
198: Perri Schelat - Processing Grief Through Landscape Photography
Welcome to episode 198 of F-Stop Collaborate and Listen!
This week on the podcast, I had a wonderful conversation with a landscape photographer who currently resides in Montana - Perri Schelat.
Perri has been pursuing landscape photography for a long time and has had one goal in mind: to become an award-winning landscape photographer. Her pursuit of this goal have taken her to some amazing places and she has found a deep connection with Glacier National Park.
In 2018, her world was turned upside down when her husband Tom passed away. Since then, she has used landscape photography as a tool to look inwards to help process that grief and shift her thinking. Perri and I discuss some interesting topics this week, including:
How she embarked on her journey in landscape photography,
How workshops influenced her photography development,
Loss and creativity in landscape photography and the grief process,
How her photography has benefitted from her personal loss,
And more
Here is the photographer that Perri recommended on the podcast:
1. Matt Bishop.
Other items mentioned on the show:
1. Kane Engelbert.
2. Facebook Group for the Podcast.
I love hearing from the podcast listeners! Reach out to me via Instagram, Facebook, or Twitter if you'd like to be on the podcast or if you have an idea of a topic we can talk about. Join the discussion over on Nature Photographer's Network! We have weekly discussions about each episode of the podcast. It's also free! We also have an Instagram page and a Facebook page for updates.
Thanks for stopping in, collaborating with us, and listening. See you next week.
As a reminder, you can also support the podcast by shopping at B+H for your photography gear using our Affiliate Link.

Jan 27, 2021 • 1h 19min
197: Jeremy Jackson - Landscape Photography Changed My Life
Welcome to episode 197 of F-Stop Collaborate and Listen!
This week on the podcast, I had a wonderful conversation with a photography living in Brittish Columbia, Jeremy Jackson.
Jeremy is a professor of psychometrics at Douglas College in New Westminster, Brittish Columbia. In his own words, Landscape Photography has changed his life.
Jeremy and I discuss some interesting topics this week, including:
How he got into landscape photography and how it has changed his life,
Decision-making in landscape photography,
Stages of personal development in photography,
Why you shouldn't listen to other photographers,
His favorite photographers of all time,
And more.
Here are the photographers that Jeremy recommended on the podcast:
1. Marco Sipriaso.
2. Finn Beales.
3. Carolyn Cheng.
Other items mentioned on the show:
1. 60-day Trial to Nature Photographer's Network.
Please consider supporting the podcast financially on Patreon. Thanks to you if you already do! You're awesome.

Jan 20, 2021 • 1h 15min
196: Dan Cook - UK Peak District; The Trouble With Making Your Passion Your Job
Welcome to episode 196 of F-Stop Collaborate and Listen!
This week on the podcast, I had a wonderful conversation with U.K. Photographer Dan Cook.
Dan won an award in the 2014 Landscape Photographer of the Year contest, which was quite early on in his career as a photographer. He works full-time in the construction industry and uses photography as a way to get into the outdoors and escape urbanism.
Dan and I discuss some interesting topics this week, including:
How he got into landscape photography,
His award in the 2014 Landscape Photographer of the Year contest,
The challenge and dilemma of focusing your passion in photography into a full-time job,
The psychological challenges within photography,
Social media's impact on photography,
Selling prints,
And much, much more.
Over on Patreon this week, Dan and I discuss his trip to Nepal and the incredible experiences he had photographing that country.
Here are the photographers that Dan recommended on the podcast:
1. Kevin Russ.
2. Ellie Davis.
3. Tom Hegen.
Other items mentioned on the show:
1. Podcast Magazine feature on our show (you have to subscribe for free first).
I love hearing from the podcast listeners! Reach out to me via Instagram, Facebook, or Twitter if you'd like to be on the podcast or if you have an idea of a topic we can talk about. Join the discussion over on Nature Photographer's Network! We have weekly discussions about each episode of the podcast. It's also free! We also have an Instagram page and a Facebook page for updates.
Thanks for stopping in, collaborating with us, and listening. See you next week.
As a reminder, you can also support the podcast by shopping at B+H for your photography gear using our Affiliate Link.

Jan 13, 2021 • 1h 4min
195: Andy Boenau - Virtual Photography Projects & His Corona Coupling Book
Welcome to episode 195 of F-Stop Collaborate and Listen!
This week on the podcast, I was happy to be joined by Andy Boenau.
Andy is a photographer living in Richmond, Virginia who seems to always have a new project up his sleeve. I was excited to talk to him about his latest project, which examines the lives of people in relationships that were only able to meet with each other virtually via Zoom, as has become commonplace since the start of COVID-19.
Andy and I discuss some interesting topics this week, including:
His monograph book project, Corona Coupling,
How physical separation takes a toll on relationships,
Using Zoom as a camera,
Focusing on the creative process instead of the equipment,
Artistic motivation and self-limiting beliefs,
Virtual photography,
And much, much more.
Here are the photographers that Andy recommended on the podcast:
1. Chris Suspect.
2. Tatsuo Suzuki.
I love hearing from the podcast listeners! Reach out to me via Instagram, Facebook, or Twitter if you'd like to be on the podcast or if you have an idea of a topic we can talk about. Join the discussion over on Nature Photographer's Network! We have weekly discussions about each episode of the podcast. It's also free! We also have an Instagram page and a Facebook page for updates.
Thanks for stopping in, collaborating with us, and listening. See you next week.
Please support the show on Patreon.
As a reminder, you can also support the podcast by shopping at B+H for your photography gear using our Affiliate Link.

Jan 6, 2021 • 1h 8min
194: Kristen Ryan - Capturing the Magic of the Tetons / Women Retreats
Welcome to episode 194 of the F-Stop Collaborate and Listen podcast.
This week on the podcast, I was happy to be joined by Kristen Ryan.
Kristen Ryan is a mother of four children living in Chicago, Illinois. She has a healthy obsession with landscape photography and Grand Teton National Park. Kristen leads all-women landscape photography retreats in the Tetons, Chicago, Canada, and elsewhere. Kristen hosts an online forum for women landscape photographers that she calls Women Capture Magic. She's also a Nature First Ambassador.
Kristen and I discuss some interesting topics this week, including:
How she became obsessed with Landscape Photography and the Tetons,
Her all-women landscape photography retreats,
Her Women Capture Magic online forum,
The challenges of being a mom to four children as a full-time photographer,
Intimate Landscape Photography using a telephoto lens,
And much, much more.
Over on Patreon this week, Kristen and I talk about tips and tricks to using neutral density filters for long exposures in landscape photography.
Here are the photographers that Kristen recommended on the podcast:
1. Paul Allen.
2. Leah Horstman.
3. Josh Merrill.
Other items mentioned on the show:
1. 60-day free trial to Nature Photographer's Network.
2. Arc Panel Luminosity Panel.
I love hearing from the podcast listeners! Reach out to me via Instagram, Facebook, or Twitter if you'd like to be on the podcast or if you have an idea of a topic we can talk about. Join the discussion over on Nature Photographer's Network! We have weekly discussions about each episode of the podcast. It's also free! We also have an Instagram page and a Facebook page for updates.
Thanks for stopping in, collaborating with us, and listening. See you next week.
Please support the show on Patreon.
As a reminder, you can also support the podcast by shopping at B+H for your photography gear using our Affiliate Link.

Dec 30, 2020 • 1h 14min
193: Robb Hirsch - Curiosity of the Natural World - Photographing Yosemite
Robb Hirsch, a California landscape photographer and biologist, shares his deep connection to the natural world, particularly Yosemite National Park, nurtured since childhood. He discusses how his scientific background influences his photography, emphasizing patience and authenticity in capturing landscapes. Robb highlights his book, "The Nature of Yosemite - A Visual Journey," and explains the importance of using photography to foster environmental stewardship. He also touches on the balance between building a sustainable art business and preserving access to nature through creative projects.

Dec 23, 2020 • 56min
192: Michelle Bates - Toy / Plastic Cameras: Creativity Unleashed
Welcome to episode 192 of the F-Stop Collaborate and Listen podcast.
This week on my landscape photography podcast, I was joined by Michelle Bates.
Michelle has been a passionate photographer since she was young, and learned her way around a camera in 1991 at the Maine Photographic Workshops, where she first discovered the Holga. Since then, Michelle has shown work in solo exhibitions in the Pacific Northwest, New York, Los Angeles and Israel, and in group shows around the US, Italy, Germany & Thailand. She has photographed for weekly newspapers, album covers, performers, artists, and many others. Michelle loves teaching, and has given lectures on plastic and toy cameras to groups all over the US, including the Society for Photographic Education, SF Camerawork, Powell's Books, and the Creative Center for Photography. She has taught at many photo schools & centers, including Photographic Center Northwest, Newspace (PDX), Maine Media Workshops, the Julia Dean Workshops (LA) and International Center of Photography in New York, among others. Her book, "Plastic Cameras: Toying with Creativity" was published in late 2006 and the second edition in October 2010. Michelle lives in Washington State, and frequents Seattle, Vashon Island, Bellingham, Portland (OR), San Francisco and New York. She loves to road trip and fly away with her Holgas whenever possible.
Michelle and I discuss some interesting topics this week, including:
What a plastic camera is,
Plastic cameras and how they distill the photographic process down to creativity,
What makes a good photographer,
Advantages of toy cameras,
Quirks of toy/plastic cameras,
Performance photography,
Collaboration with other artists,
And much, much more.
Over on Patreon this week, Michelle and I talk about the importance of honing our skills of writing to improve our photography.
Here are the photographers that Michelle recommended on the podcast:
1. Ted Orland (sorry, no website).
2. Teru Kuwayama.
3. Anne Arden McDonald.
4. Susan Burnstine.
5. Jill Enfield.
6. Elizabeth Opalenik.
7. Louviere & Vanessa.
I love hearing from the podcast listeners! Reach out to me via Instagram, Facebook, or Twitter if you'd like to be on the podcast or if you have an idea of a topic we can talk about. Join the discussion over on Nature Photographer's Network! We have weekly discussions about each episode of the podcast. It's also free! We also have an Instagram page and a Facebook page for updates.
Thanks for stopping in, collaborating with us, and listening. See you next week.
As a reminder, you can also support the podcast by shopping at B+H for your photography gear using our Affiliate Link.

Dec 16, 2020 • 1h 4min
191: Mattias Sjolund - Building Your Landscape Photography Business
Welcome to episode 191 of the F-Stop Collaborate and Listen podcast.
This week on my landscape photography podcast, I was joined by a landscape photographer from Uppsala, Sweden - Mattias Sjolund.
Mattias works full-time in the digital marketing field and runs an upstart landscape photography business "Foto Magica" where he recruits "big name" photographers from the United States to join him on small tours and workshops in Sweden, bringing the stars to his market.
Mattias and myself discuss some interesting topics this week, including:
How Mattias improved his photography on a small budget,
How Mattias built his landscape photography business,
Using Google Ads for marketing your landscape photography business,
Other digital marketing tips,
Differences between Europe and the United States in the landscape photography market,
And much, much more.
Over on Patreon this week, Mattias and I discuss how photography enriches his life and how he maintains his photography business and a full-time job.
Here are the photographers that Mattias recommended on the podcast:
1. Tara Workman.
2. Bruce Percy.
3. Andrea Hamilton.
I love hearing from the podcast listeners! Reach out to me via Instagram, Facebook, or Twitter if you'd like to be on the podcast or if you have an idea of a topic we can talk about. Join the discussion over on Nature Photographer's Network! We have weekly discussions about each episode of the podcast. It's also free! We also have an Instagram page and a Facebook page for updates.
Thanks for stopping in, collaborating with us, and listening. See you next week.
As a reminder, you can also support the podcast by shopping at B+H for your photography gear using our Affiliate Link.

Dec 9, 2020 • 1h 18min
190: Gary Crabbe - The Legacy of Galen Rowell in Landscape Photography
Welcome to episode 190 of the F-Stop Collaborate and Listen podcast.
This week on the podcast, I was joined by a landscape photographer who has been in the game for quite a long time. Gary Crabbe found himself welcomed into the landscape photography world by surprise when he decided to quit his job as a breakfast cook and work for Galen Rowell as his photo library curator.
What ensued was an unexpected life-long journey as a landscape photographer. Gary is an award-winning photographer and author living in the San Francisco Bay Area. He has seven published books to his credit as principal photographer, the last two of which he also authored. His most recent book, Photographing California; Vol. 1 – North, won the prestigious IBPA Benjamin Franklin Gold Medal Award for Best Regional Title.In 2018, the United States Postal Service released seven of Gary’s photos – a nearly unprecedented number for an individual photographer -- as USPS Forever Postage Stamps. These photos are now immortalized as part of the USPS O Beautiful collection, a 20-image set of stamps celebrating the hymn, America the Beautiful.
Gary and myself discuss some interesting topics this week, including:
Gary's journey into photography,
What it was like to work with Galen Rowell,
The realities of making it as a professional photographer,
Image licensing,
Photo selection and portfolio development,
Competitiveness in landscape photography,
And much, much more.
Over on Patreon this week, Gary and I discuss his challenges with mental health - a topic that has been getting a lot of attention lately in light of COVID. Stick around to the end of the show where I will be announcing a nice giveaway for listeners.
Here are the photographers that Gary recommended on the podcast:
1. Richard Wong.
2. David Leland Hyde.
3. Phillip Hyde.
4. Michael Gordon.
5. Robert Glenn Ketchum.
6. Frans Lanting.
7. Suzi Eszterhas.
8. Nevada Wier.
Other items mentioned on the show:
1. Private 1:1 landscape photography workshops.
I love hearing from the podcast listeners! Reach out to me via Instagram, Facebook, or Twitter if you'd like to be on the podcast or if you have an idea of a topic we can talk about. Join the discussion over on Nature Photographer's Network! We have weekly discussions about each episode of the podcast. It's also free! We also have an Instagram page and a Facebook page for updates.
Thanks for stopping in, collaborating with us, and listening. See you next week.
As a reminder, you can also support the podcast by shopping at B+H for your photography gear using our Affiliate Link.

Dec 2, 2020 • 1h 5min
189: Ella & Knapp Hudson - Running a Successful Camera Club
Join Ella & Knapp Hudson from Portland discussing their photography journey, running a successful camera club, competition ideas, and overlanding adventures. Explore photography evolution, digital transition, and club membership diversity challenges. Dive into photography competitions, unique judging concepts, and techniques of accomplished photographers like Harold Ross and Betty Wiley.