
Knowing Faith
The Christian faith is not mindless or irrational. Knowing Faith is a podcast exploring how our faith is founded upon Scripture. We believe the Bible is for everyone and are committed to helping the Church understand where their faith is rooted. Hosted by Jen Wilkin, JT English and Kyle Worley, this podcast dives into Christian story, belief, and practice in a way that is accessible to everyone.
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Apr 13, 2023 • 32min
#183 – Salvation: Glorification with Patrick Schreiner
Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley are joined by Dr. Patrick Schreiner to continue talking about the doctrine of salvation by looking specifically at the doctrine of glorification. Questions Covered in This Episode:Where does glorification fit into the doctrine of salvation?When you first think of glorification, what comes to mind?What is the doctrine of glorification?How much of glorification is tied to the good rule and reign of humanity over all things?What are we saved to?Is being full of the Holy Spirit better than what Adam and Eve had in the garden?Isn’t my humanity bad?Is glorification just cosmetic or individual?You just finished a book on the Transfiguration, is that a picture of glorification?What is the path to glorification?Why do Moses and Elijah appear in the Transfiguration?During the Transfiguration, is this Moses’ first time to enter the Promised Land?Why is the doctrine of glorification good news?How is creation glorified? How are freedom and glorification tied together?Helpful Definitions:Glory: Heaviness or weightiness, usually describes who God is.Glorified: Entering or re-entering that perfect whole state of what it means to be in the image of God.Guest Bio:Dr. Patrick Schreiner is the Director of the Residency PhD program and Associate Professor of New Testament and Biblical Theology at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. He is the author of a number of books, including a commentary on Acts, The Visual Word: An Illustrated Guide to the New Testament Books, The Mission of the Triune God: A Theology of Acts, The Body of Jesus: A Spatial Analysis of the Kingdom in Matthew, The Kingdom of God and the Glory of the Cross, Matthew, Disciple and Scribe: The First Gospel and Its Portrait of Jesus, and The Ascension of Christ: Recovering a Neglected Doctrine. He is married to Hannah and they have four children. You can follow him on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook.Resources Mentioned in This Episode:Romans 8:30, 2 Corinthians 3:18, 1 Corinthians 15, Romans 8, Colossians 1, Genesis 1:27, Romans 1, Romans 3:23, 1 Corinthians 1:15-20, Genesis 1-3, 1 John 3:2, Mark 9:3, 2 Peter 1:17, Exodus 33, 1 Kings 19, 2 Corinthians 4:17“Conformed to the Image of His Son” by Haley Goranson JacobAffiliate links are used where appropriate. We earn from qualifying purchases, thank you for supporting Training the Church.Sponsors:Are you ready to take your next step in theological training? Consider Midwestern Seminary and how our For the Church vision can equip you through formal theological education or one of our many free training resources we offer. Learn more about how to get started at www.mbts.edu/knowingfaithFollow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | WebsiteOur Sister Podcasts:The Family Discipleship Podcast | Confronting Christianity | Starting PlaceSupport Training the Church and Become a Patron:patreon.com/trainingthechurch
Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | WebsiteOur Sister Podcasts:The Family Discipleship Podcast | Tiny TheologiansSupport Training the Church and Become a Patron:patreon.com/trainingthechurchYou can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship.To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page.Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co.

Apr 6, 2023 • 35min
#182 – Biblical Literacy: A State of the Union with Jason Allen
Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley are joined by Dr. Jason K. Allen of Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary to have a conversation about biblical literacy and the relationship between the seminary institution and the local church.Questions Covered in This Episode:Could you share a bit about Midwestern’s journey over the last ten years?What have you learned about recovering the beauty of an institution for the good of its participants?How is the biblical literacy project going? What are we learning? What seems to be working? What are the hurdles?What does a healthy relationship look like between a seminary institution and the local church?Why is it crucial for us as Christians to be people of the book? Doesn’t Jesus chastise the Pharisees that they care too much about biblical literacy?How crucial is it that the pastors and church leaders that Midwestern sends out are leaders who value biblical literacy in their churches?Guest Bio:Dr. Jason K. Allen serves as the fifth president of Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary, in Kansas City, MO. Dr. Allen serves the institution in the classroom, as professor for preaching and pastoral ministry. More broadly, he serves the church through his preaching and writing ministries as well. He is the author of several books including but not limited to; The SBC & the 21st Century and Discerning Your Call to Ministry. Dr. Allen regularly posts essays on his website, jasonkallen.com and hosts a weekly podcast, “Preaching & Preachers.”Resources Mentioned in This Episode:1 Peter 2:4-10“Turnaround” by Jason K. AllenFor the Church InstituteAffiliate links are used where appropriate. We earn from qualifying purchases, thank you for supporting Training the Church.Sponsors:Are you ready to take your next step in theological training? Consider Midwestern Seminary and how our For the Church vision can equip you through formal theological education or one of our many free training resources we offer. Learn more about how to get started at www.mbts.edu/knowingfaithFollow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | WebsiteOur Sister Podcasts:The Family Discipleship Podcast | Confronting Christianity | Starting PlaceSupport Training the Church and Become a Patron:patreon.com/trainingthechurch
Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | WebsiteOur Sister Podcasts:The Family Discipleship Podcast | Tiny TheologiansSupport Training the Church and Become a Patron:patreon.com/trainingthechurchYou can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship.To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page.Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co.

Apr 4, 2023 • 9min
After The Fact: Spurgeon's View on Soteriology with Geoff Chang
Kyle Worley is joined by Geoff Chang to answer the question; what would we find interesting about Spurgeon’s views on the doctrine of salvation?Questions Covered in This Episode:What would we find interesting about Spurgeon’s views on the doctrine of salvation?Can someone be both evangelistic and Calvinist in their doctrine? And was Spurgeon unique in his ability to live between those two movements?If someone wants to learn from Spurgeon and his views on salvation, what is the one area that you would point them to in his teaching and his doctrine?What is going on at the Spurgeon Library?Guest Bio:Geoff Chang serves as Assistant Professor of Church History and Historical Theology and the Curator of the Spurgeon Library. He is a graduate of The University of Texas at Austin (B.B.A.), The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary (M.Div.), and Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary (Ph.D.). He also serves the Book Review Editor for History & Historical Theology at Themelios, the academic journal for The Gospel Coalition. He is the volume editor of The Lost Sermons of C.H. Spurgeon Volumes 5, 6, and 7 and the author of Spurgeon the Pastor: Recovering a Biblical and Theological Vision for Ministry. He is married to Stephanie and they have three children. You can follow him on Facebook and Twitter.Resources Mentioned in This Episode:Knowing Faith After The Fact: Spurgeon and the Trinity with Dr. Geoff Chang“The Soul Winner” by Charles Spurgeon“Evangelism and the Sovereignty of God” by J. I. Packer“Spurgeon V. Hyper-Calvinism” by Iain H MurrayAffiliate links are used where appropriate. We earn from qualifying purchases, thank you for supporting Training the Church.Sponsors:Are you ready to take your next step in theological training? Consider Midwestern Seminary and how our For the Church vision can equip you through formal theological education or one of our many free training resources we offer. Learn more about how to get started at www.mbts.edu/knowingfaithFollow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Website
Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | WebsiteOur Sister Podcasts:The Family Discipleship Podcast | Tiny TheologiansSupport Training the Church and Become a Patron:patreon.com/trainingthechurchYou can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship.To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page.Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co.

Mar 30, 2023 • 26min
#181 – Salvation: Sanctification
Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley are back in the doctrine of salvation and have a conversation about sanctification.Questions Covered in This Episode:What is sanctification?How is it different from justification and glorification?How does sanctification address legalism and license?How does our context affect how we speak about sanctification?How are we sanctified?Why is sanctification good news and how does sanctification give us hope?Helpful Definitions:Sanctification: The working out of our salvation. Set free from the power of sin.Justification: Saved from the penalty of sin.Glorification: Set free from the presence of sin.Alien Righteousness: A righteousness outside of ourselves.Resources Mentioned in This Episode:1 Corinthians 11:1, Hebrews 10:14, Romans 6, Galatians 2-3“Grounded in Heaven” by Michael AllenAffiliate links are used where appropriate. We earn from qualifying purchases, thank you for supporting Training the Church.Sponsors:Are you ready to take your next step in theological training? Consider Midwestern Seminary and how our For the Church vision can equip you through formal theological education or one of our many free training resources we offer. Learn more about how to get started at www.mbts.edu/knowingfaithFollow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | WebsiteOur Sister Podcasts:The Family Discipleship Podcast | Confronting Christianity | Starting PlaceSupport Training the Church and Become a Patron:patreon.com/trainingthechurch
Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | WebsiteOur Sister Podcasts:The Family Discipleship Podcast | Tiny TheologiansSupport Training the Church and Become a Patron:patreon.com/trainingthechurchYou can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship.To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page.Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co.

Mar 28, 2023 • 9min
After The Fact: How to Help Your Church Grow in Theological Discipleship with Jared Bumpers
Kyle Worley is joined by Jared Bumpers to answer the question; how can a listener help their local church grow in theological discipleship?Questions Covered in This Episode:What is the For the Church Cohort?How can a listener help their local church grow in theological discipleship?What would you say to someone who says, “I believe what you are saying is crucial and that the local church should be where it is happening, but my church isn’t there right now.”Guest Bio:Jared Bumpers is the Assistant Professor of Preaching & Evangelism and For The Church Cohorts Faculty Coordinator at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. Jared holds a B. S. in Pastoral Ministry from Baptist Bible College in Springfield, Missouri; a M.Div. from Luther Rice Seminary in Lithonia, Georgia; a Th.M. in Biblical Studies from Liberty Baptist Theological Seminary in Lynchburg, Virginia; and a Ph.D. in Christian Preaching from The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in Louisville, Kentucky. His doctoral research focused on the hermeneutic and homiletic of John Albert Broadus. Jared is married to his wife, Kimberly, and they have four children: McCartnie, Rush, Maverick, and Jett.Resources Mentioned in This Episode:For the Church Cohort“The Wonderful Works of God” by Herman Bavinck“Pilgrim Theology” by Michael HortonCrossway Women of the WordAffiliate links are used where appropriate. We earn from qualifying purchases, thank you for supporting Training the Church.Sponsors:Are you ready to take your next step in theological training? Consider Midwestern Seminary and how our For the Church vision can equip you through formal theological education or one of our many free training resources we offer. Learn more about how to get started at www.mbts.edu/knowingfaithFollow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | WebsiteOur Sister Podcasts:The Family Discipleship Podcast | Confronting Christianity | Starting PlaceSupport Training the Church and Become a Patron:patreon.com/trainingthechurch
Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | WebsiteOur Sister Podcasts:The Family Discipleship Podcast | Tiny TheologiansSupport Training the Church and Become a Patron:patreon.com/trainingthechurchYou can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship.To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page.Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co.

Mar 23, 2023 • 36min
#180 – #DateNight
Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley are joined by their spouses; Jeff Wilkin, Macy English, and Lauren Worley!Questions Covered in This Episode:Does JT quote Bavinck on date nights?How does it feel to be grandparents?Who is the “yes” parent and who is the “no” parent?What’s your favorite episode of Knowing Faith so far this season?Do any of y’all ever listen to an episode and think - “Why did I marry a weirdo/nerd?”What does ministry partnership look like for each of us?Resources Mentioned in This Episode:Knowing Faith Episode #38 - Living with a TheologianThe Family Discipleship PodcastAffiliate links are used where appropriate. We earn from qualifying purchases, thank you for supporting Training the Church.Sponsors:Are you ready to take your next step in theological training? Consider Midwestern Seminary and how our For the Church vision can equip you through formal theological education or one of our many free training resources we offer. Learn more about how to get started at www.mbts.edu/knowingfaithFollow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | WebsiteOur Sister Podcasts:The Family Discipleship Podcast | Confronting Christianity | Starting PlaceSupport Training the Church and Become a Patron:patreon.com/trainingthechurch
Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | WebsiteOur Sister Podcasts:The Family Discipleship Podcast | Tiny TheologiansSupport Training the Church and Become a Patron:patreon.com/trainingthechurchYou can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship.To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page.Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co.

Mar 21, 2023 • 7min
After The Fact: If God Calls, Why Evangelize? with Joe Allen
Kyle Worley is joined by Joe Allen to answer the question; if God calls, why evangelize?Questions Covered in This Episode:If God calls, why evangelize?Is my obedience to evangelism of consequence or of faithfulness?If I go out today and share the gospel of Jesus Christ with my neighbor, am I walking in faithfulness to what God has said?If I go out and share the gospel with my neighbor today, can I have confidence God will do what I cannot do?Guest Bio:Dr. Joe M. Allen III serves as Assistant Professor of Missions at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. He earned his Ph.D. in Applied Theology from Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary and his Th.M. in World Missions and Historical Theology from Dallas Theological Seminary. Dr. Allen is the author of a series of theology books for kids called “Big Thoughts for Little Thinkers,” which includes The Trinity, The Gospel, The Scripture, and The Mission. He also wrote a gospel tract called, “Welcome to Heaven.” He is married to Christy, and they have two children, Claire and Joe IV.Resources Mentioned in This Episode:1 Corinthians 3:9, 1 Thessalonians 2:19-20“Enquiry into the Obligations of Christians, to Use Means for the Conversion of the Heathens” by William CareyAffiliate links are used where appropriate. We earn from qualifying purchases, thank you for supporting Training the Church.Sponsors:Are you ready to take your next step in theological training? Consider Midwestern Seminary and how our For the Church vision can equip you through formal theological education or one of our many free training resources we offer. Learn more about how to get started at www.mbts.edu/knowingfaithFollow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | WebsiteOur Sister Podcasts:The Family Discipleship Podcast | Confronting Christianity | Starting PlaceSupport Training the Church and Become a Patron:patreon.com/trainingthechurch
Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | WebsiteOur Sister Podcasts:The Family Discipleship Podcast | Tiny TheologiansSupport Training the Church and Become a Patron:patreon.com/trainingthechurchYou can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship.To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page.Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co.

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Mar 16, 2023 • 32min
#179 – Salvation: Justification
Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley continue their conversation on the doctrine of salvation by discussing justification.Questions Covered in This Episode:Is justification the doctrine by which the church stands or falls?What is justification?Is justification “just as if I had never sinned”?Is what we have better than what Adam and Eve could have had?Why do we need to be justified?What is righteousness?Why would say that humanity, prior to the fall, did not enjoy union with Christ?What is the basic idea of justification?How does this relate to the doctrine of God?What is important for us as we consider this?How can I know that I have been justified?Helpful Definitions:Justification: To be declared right.Righteousness: A purity (covenant obedience to the law) that we lost that we can’t get back apart from it being imputed to us through Christ.Synonym: Holiness: Utter purity.Synonym: ObedienceTsaddiq (Hebrew: צַדִּיק): RighteousnessMishpat (Hebrew מִשְׁפָּט): JusticeResources Mentioned in This Episode:Romans 5, Revelation 21-22, Genesis 1-2, Galatians 2:15-21, Genesis 3, Romans 7, 2 Corinthians 5:21Affiliate links are used where appropriate. We earn from qualifying purchases, thank you for supporting Training the Church.Sponsors:Are you ready to take your next step in theological training? Consider Midwestern Seminary and how our For the Church vision can equip you through formal theological education or one of our many free training resources we offer. Learn more about how to get started at www.mbts.edu/knowingfaithFollow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | WebsiteOur Sister Podcasts:The Family Discipleship Podcast | Confronting Christianity | Starting PlaceSupport Training the Church and Become a Patron:patreon.com/trainingthechurch
Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | WebsiteOur Sister Podcasts:The Family Discipleship Podcast | Tiny TheologiansSupport Training the Church and Become a Patron:patreon.com/trainingthechurchYou can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship.To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page.Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co.

Mar 14, 2023 • 7min
After The Fact: Why Union with Christ is the Best News Ever with Jared Wilson
Kyle Worley is joined by Jared Wilson to answer the question, why is union with Christ the best news ever?Questions Covered in This Episode:Why is union with Christ the best news ever?How secure do you think Jesus is?Guest Bio:Jared C. Wilson serves as Assistant Professor of Pastoral Ministry, Author in Residence, and General Editor, For the Church. He is the author of a number of books including but not limited to Gospel Wakefulness, The Prodigal Church, The Pastor’s Justification, and Supernatural Power for Everyday People. He also serves as an elder at Liberty Baptist Church. He and Becky have been married for twenty-three years, and they have two daughters: Macy and Grace.Resources Mentioned in This Episode:John 17, Colossians 3:3, Ephesians 2:6Affiliate links are used where appropriate. We earn from qualifying purchases, thank you for supporting Training the Church.Sponsors:Are you ready to take your next step in theological training? Consider Midwestern Seminary and how our For the Church vision can equip you through formal theological education or one of our many free training resources we offer. Learn more about how to get started at www.mbts.edu/knowingfaithFollow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | WebsiteOur Sister Podcasts:The Family Discipleship Podcast | Confronting Christianity | Starting PlaceSupport Training the Church and Become a Patron:patreon.com/trainingthechurch
Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | WebsiteOur Sister Podcasts:The Family Discipleship Podcast | Tiny TheologiansSupport Training the Church and Become a Patron:patreon.com/trainingthechurchYou can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship.To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page.Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co.

Mar 9, 2023 • 43min
#178 – Salvation: Union with Christ
Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley have a conversation about the most important doctrine for understanding the doctrine of salvation, union with Christ.Questions Covered in This Episode:What is the most important doctrine for understanding the doctrine of salvation?Why does Paul continually use the preposition “in”?It is possible to live in this world as an individual not united to someone else?I grew up hearing Christ in me, not me in Christ; where is the emphasis? Why was I presented with the opposite?What is the doctrine of union with Christ?How have we imported modern conceptions of identity on being in Christ?What is the difference between dying to self and living with Christ and embracing those distinctions that you want to dignify?It is important to value diversity?How is union with Christ different from communion with God?If someone said they were feeling cold in their relationship with God, how would you respond to them?Helpful Definitions:Union with Christ:A believers identification in Christ and incorporation into the body of all of those who are identified with Christ before God.The unbreakable, unshakeable reception of all of God’s saving benefits.Unbreakable relationship with God held by Jesus for His people, received by grace through faith.Communion with Christ: Fellowship with God. The enjoyment of God’s saving benefits, it is shakeable and breakable and you can also deepen it.Resources Mentioned in This Episode:Acts 9, John 17:1–26, Ephesians 1:3-10, Romans 6:1-11, Galatians 2:20, Romans 5:19, Colossians 1:27, Genesis 3, Luke 14:11, Revelation 5, Romans 16Crossway: Women of the WordKnowing Faith Episode #177 – Brothers and Sisters: More than a MetaphorAffiliate links are used where appropriate. We earn from qualifying purchases, thank you for supporting Training the Church.Sponsors:Are you ready to take your next step in theological training? Consider Midwestern Seminary and how our For the Church vision can equip you through formal theological education or one of our many free training resources we offer. Learn more about how to get started at www.mbts.edu/knowingfaithFollow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | WebsiteOur Sister Podcasts:The Family Discipleship Podcast | Confronting Christianity | Starting PlaceSupport Training the Church and Become a Patron:patreon.com/trainingthechurch
Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | WebsiteOur Sister Podcasts:The Family Discipleship Podcast | Tiny TheologiansSupport Training the Church and Become a Patron:patreon.com/trainingthechurchYou can now receive your first seminary class for FREE from Midwestern Seminary after completing Lifeway’s Deep Discipleship curriculum, featuring JT, Jen and Kyle. Learn more at mbts.edu/deepdiscipleship.To learn more about our sponsors please visit our sponsor page.Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co.