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Jul 24, 2023 • 30min

Ep 149: Frank Macindoe - Finding the right companies for long-term growth

In this episode of "Inside the Rope," host David Clark interviews Frank Macindoe, a Koda Partner & Adviser that oversees the Koda Enduring Equities Portfolio of ASX-listed shares. The portfolio has achieved an impressive compound annual growth rate of approximately 14% p.a. over the past 15 years. Frank delves into the current economic landscape, characterized by the end of a long period of declining interest rates, low inflation, and the pandemic's impact. Despite the prevailing uncertainties, Frank adheres to a long-term investment approach, seeking companies that surpass the broader economy, possess competitive advantages (such as intellectual property or scale), and are not heavily reliant on capital. He emphasizes focusing on companies with growth potential over a five-year horizon. Throughout the conversation, Frank expresses optimism for healthcare sector companies like Cochlear, CSL, and ResMed, which faced challenges during the pandemic but are expected to thrive as healthcare returns to normal. However, he avoids investments in banks due to increasing regulatory constraints. Frank also voices concerns about rising bond rates and inflation, which could pose challenges for long-term growth companies. Additionally, he mentions potential risks related to China's economy, US politics, and geopolitical tensions. Regarding artificial intelligence (AI), Frank recommends investing in companies that can leverage AI rather than attempting to pick the ultimate AI technology winner. He notes that businesses with a significant workforce may be vulnerable to AI-driven disruptions.
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Jul 11, 2023 • 32min

Ep 148: David Witkin - The art of event-driven investing

In this episode, David Clark chats with return guest David Witkin, the founder of Beryl Capital Management. They discuss merger arbitrage and event-driven investing, focusing on the current regulatory environment in mergers and acquisitions. The two discuss the potential merger between LIV Golf and the PGA. Witkin, commented that if it were a public deal, he would be shorting the deal due to concerns about antitrust issues. He mentions that the combination of LIV golf and PGA, which were previously competitors, could be seen as an attempt to eliminate competition, something that the Department of Justice would not allow. Witkin also shares insights on his fund's performance, emphasizing its compound annual growth rate and alignment of interests with investors. The conversation highlights the importance of experience and research in analyzing deals and managing position sizes effectively. He also discusses the role of antitrust regulators and their impact on deal closures and spread widening. He notes that while some deals may be blocked, the US antitrust system allows for challenges in court, with historically around 50% of blocks being overturned. Witkin emphasizes the need to stay informed by following court cases and dockets. The conversation underscores the less volatile nature of merger arbitrage and the potential for high-risk-adjusted returns.
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Jun 26, 2023 • 40min

Ep 147: Andrew Rothery - Exploring private markets

In this episode, David is joined by Andrew Rothery to discuss the opportunities and advantages of investing in private markets. Andrew highlights the broad range of assets that can find a home in the private market, including equities, debt securities, and alternative investments like oil and gas. He emphasizes that private ownership is more about the needs of the investor rather than the specific asset class. The conversation explores Andrew's positions as a non-executive director in various businesses, such as a deep tech incubator and a property development company focused on community-building. He also mentions his involvement with Blackbird Ventures and LeapFrog Investments, showcasing the growing venture capital and impact investing sectors. Andrew stresses the importance of track records when selecting managers in the private asset space. He encourages investors to look for managers with a successful history and a proven ability to generate returns. Additionally, he highlights the role of advisory boards in managing conflicts of interest in venture capital funds. If this is done well, Andrew believes private markets can offer investors the potential for high returns, diversification, and the opportunity to invest in impactful and innovative businesses.
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Jun 12, 2023 • 42min

Ep 146: Chris Joye - Cash is king

In this episode, David is joined once again by Chris Joye, Chief Investment Officer at Coolabah Capital. They discuss the current state and future of various asset classes, including residential property prices, cash, and bonds. David and Chris also delve into the basis for the RBA's 2-3% inflation target and its significance in forming their cash rate decisions. Chris emphasizes the importance of liquidity, optionality, and risk management for investors, favouring cash and high-grade floating rate bonds issued by governments, banks, or too big to fail companies. He warns of potential disaster in commercial real estate and retains his prediction for a peak to trough correction of 15-25% in Australian residential house prices. Chris argues that booming asset prices over past years have been driven by cheap borrowing costs, which are now reversing, leading to a significant change in financial market dynamics. He also touches upon the Reserve Bank of Australia's interest rate decisions, suggesting there may be a few more hikes to come. With his contrarian views and successful track record, Chris provides valuable insights on navigating the market.
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May 29, 2023 • 48min

Ep 145: Neil Schloss - Investing in the mobility revolution

In this episode of Inside The Rope, David Clark interviews Neil Schloss, former Treasurer of Ford Motor Company and currently sits on the investment committee of the J-Impact Fund. They discuss the future of the mobility industry and the challenges of investing in it. Neil emphasizes the importance of understanding the business model and revenue potential of companies in this space before investing, as well as the need to diversify one's investments. He also notes the blurred lines between different areas of mobility, such as bikes and delivery vehicles, and suggests looking for technologies and enhancements within those core areas. Neil also acknowledges the safety concerns around autonomous vehicles and the need for continued education to address them. He touches on the potential for a shift in the revenue model of the industry, with the rise of subscription services and the increasing role of insurance companies. Overall, the episode provides a grounded perspective on the mobility industry and offers insights for investors looking to navigate this complex and rapidly evolving space.
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May 15, 2023 • 39min

Ep 144: Kim Morison - The role of institutional capital in agriculture

In this episode of Inside The Rope, David is joined once again by Kim Morrison, the Chief Investment Officer at Argyle Group. Kim joins David to discuss the Argyle Water Fund, a fund that aims to provide investors with opportunities to invest in water rights and agricultural assets in Australia. By investing in these assets, the fund seeks to generate long-term returns for its investors while supporting the growth and development of the agricultural sector. By investing in water rights, the fund helps farmers unlock capital from their balance sheets, allowing them to transition to high-value crops and undertake long-term developments. This enables farmers to access their own private capital, leading to increased capacity to make their operations more sustainable. The episode also highlights the stability of the legislative framework governing water rights in Australia. Including the deliberate processes implemented by the government, including buybacks, to balance water allocation between environmental flows and consumption. Kim also covers the concerns about environmental impacts, such as fish deaths, which can be attributed to natural factors like rainfall and flooding, rather than excessive water extraction by agriculture.
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May 2, 2023 • 37min

Ep 143: Luke Keary - The art of performance

Luke Keary, a celebrated rugby league player with three NRL grand finals wins and a Clive Churchill medal, shares his journey from sports to business. He dives into the importance of emotional regulation and how it aids performance under pressure. The impact of influential coaches like Trent Robinson shapes his leadership mindset. Luke discusses his unexpected pivot to finance, driven by a knee injury, and reflects on life lessons that transcend rugby, making his insights applicable to anyone aiming for excellence.
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Apr 17, 2023 • 38min

Ep 142: Mitch Taylor - Protecting capital against higher inflation

In this episode of the "Inside the Rope" podcast, host David Clark interviews Mitch Taylor, co-founder of Longreach Credit Investors and manager of the Longreach Direct Lending Fund. The Longreach Direct Lending Fund writes senior loans to Australian and some New Zealand corporate borrowers, focusing on highly creditworthy borrowers that may have been neglected by traditional banks. Mitch explains how the fund is protecting against higher interest rates and inflation, and discusses the fund's performance over the past 12 months, which has returned 8.74%. Mitch also touches on his background in credit and his experience working on a distressed credit trading desk during the 2008 financial crisis, which has informed the Longreach Credit Investors' approach to protecting capital. Mitch has a background in credit, including 16 years with Macquarie Group in Australia and the US markets. He also worked for Corda Mentha in insolvency and advisory work before joining Longreach Credit Investors in 2017. Mitch Taylor was previously a guest on episode 15 back in 2018.
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Apr 3, 2023 • 45min

Ep 141: Roger Lloyd - Inside Infrastructure

In this episode of Inside The Rope, David Clark is joined again by Roger Lloyd, founder and managing director of Palisade Investment Partners, an independent Australian infrastructure manager. Roger shares insights into the Palisade Infrastructure Trust and discusses how the fund has performed over the past year. He also provides an update on some of the key infrastructure assets in the Palisade portfolio and the company's approach to managing these assets. Roger also discusses the importance of sustainability in infrastructure investing and shares his thoughts on the role that infrastructure can play in driving economic growth. Finally, he reflects on his long career in the infrastructure industry and shares some lessons he has learned along the way. Roger Lloyd is the founder and managing director of Palisade Investment Partners, an Australian infrastructure manager that invests in core infrastructure assets across Australia and New Zealand. With over 30 years of experience in the infrastructure industry, Lloyd has been a key contributor to the development of the Australian infrastructure market. He is also a board member of several of Palisade's portfolio companies and holds a Bachelor of Engineering and a Masters of Business Administration from the University of Melbourne.
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Mar 20, 2023 • 49min

Ep 140: Tom King - Navigating the seas of sustainable investing

Tom joined Nanuk in 2009 as a director of the firm, the firm’s chief investment officer and one of the firm’s portfolio managers with approximately 20 years’ investment industry experience in equity funds management, investment banking and private equity. Before his career in finance, Tom won a gold medal in sailing at the Sydney Olympics in 2000 and paved the way for Australian high-performance sailors for years to come. In recognition of these accomplishments, Tom was also awarded a Medal of the Order of Australia. Nanuk Asset Management was established in 2009 to develop world-leading expertise in the investment opportunities and risks associated with environmental sustainability and resource use efficiency. Nanuk does this by investing in globally listed companies associated with the broad themes of clean energy, energy efficiency, industrial efficiency, waste management, pollution control, food & agriculture, advanced & sustainable materials, water and healthcare technology. Nanuk takes an active, fundamental, valuation and research-driven investment approach. They incorporate positive and negative screening, ESG factors and values-based norms into their decision-making process.

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