

Your World of Creativity
Mark Stinson
On YOUR WORLD OF CREATIVITY, best-selling author and global brand innovator, Mark Stinson introduces you to some of the world’s leading creative talent from publishing, film, animation, music, restaurants, medical research, and more.
In every episode, you'll discover:
- How to tap into your most original thinking.
- Inspiration from the experts’ own experience.
- Specific tools, exercises, and formulas to organize your ideas.
- And most of all, you’ll learn how to make connections and create opportunities to publish, post, record, display, sell, market, and promote your creative work.
Listen for the latest insights for creative people who want to stop questioning themselves and overcome obstacles to launch their creative endeavors out into the world.
Connect with Mark at www.Mark-Stinson.com
In every episode, you'll discover:
- How to tap into your most original thinking.
- Inspiration from the experts’ own experience.
- Specific tools, exercises, and formulas to organize your ideas.
- And most of all, you’ll learn how to make connections and create opportunities to publish, post, record, display, sell, market, and promote your creative work.
Listen for the latest insights for creative people who want to stop questioning themselves and overcome obstacles to launch their creative endeavors out into the world.
Connect with Mark at www.Mark-Stinson.com
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Nov 16, 2021 • 16min
Jackie Brusch, Marketer and Advocate
We are back for another great interview in our creativity series. In today’s episode, we chat with Jackie Brusch, a marketeer and communications leader from Philadelphia. Jackie Brusch is Director of Marketing at Open Clinica, a healthcare company that focuses on using data and technology to help clinical trial professionals, clinical researchers, data managers, biotechnology, and pharmaceutical companies really get the information that they need, to make their clinical trials successful. In this episode, Jackie tells us about a creative challenge she’s currently working on as a marketer in clinical trials, how video marketing is making a breakthrough to reach customers and why, & how to ensure remote team collaboration, especially in a marketing role.As a writer by profession, Jackie has been able to apply a lot of the collaboration techniques to solve the problems she faces but also in applying these skills to her own personal brand as a top content marketer in this industry.Her role enables her to come up with solutions when faced with a creative challenge. At Open Clinica, it's about getting at those pain points and creating the marketing materials, programs, and campaigns that resonate with their audience. Jackie discloses how she tackles her failure or problems while at work applying the GEMO formula- which translates to:Get goodEnough, Move On.Additionally, she tells us how she applies technology tools to her creative problem-solving tools, by executing her 4 marketing strategies. When it comes to generating ideas, Jackie says following content platforms and organizations in your specific field, even if you're not using that product, or technology is advantageous to you so that you can, see what's up and coming, and then incorporate that into your strategy. Jackie’s Website: JackieBrusch.comLinkedIn: Jackie BruschCompany Website: Open Clinica

Nov 9, 2021 • 25min
Heath Ellenberger, 10-Minute Leadership
Meet Heath Ellenberger, fitness executive and author of 10 Minute Leadership, Raw*Real*RelatableHeath has been in the Fitness Industry for more than 18 years. In that time he has trained hundreds of individuals. owned fitness businesses, worked for the corporate headquarters of a major fitness franchise, has inspired fitness and other professionals through his public speaking. Now he finds himself inspired to take the same lessons and skills he has learned and taught in the fitness industry to all industries. Powered by a passion to enrich leaders and help them gain practical knowledge through brief, captivating and relatable lessons. The MissionThe Mission of 10 Minute Leadership is to provide all leaders with a game plan and resources. That will promote adaptation in your leadership muscles through Weekly Challenges, encouraging Performance of those challenges, and building those skills through Repetitions. Why 10 Minutes"We have found through our experience working with leaders time is a commodity that doesn't come cheap," Heath says. Also, the attention span of leaders is limited. Knowing we were faced with limited time and attention. We had to formulate a process for getting important skills and support to serve our leader with those two limitations in mind. Delivering short weekly lessons has proven to produce big returns giving leader more time to implement the lessons and less time reading, or watching online courses. We think of this approach as a podcast on paper."Leadership Lessons on the go. As a leader/coach your most valuable asset is your time. That time should be spent serving your team and leading your organization. Think of this as your leadership MapQuest, it’s an on-the-go guide for leaders. Use these 52 lessons and stories to improve your leadership muscles. Your team deserves it! Order the bookhttps://www.amazon.com/10-Minute-Leadership-Real-Relatable/dp/1662810482/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=heath+ellenberger&qid=1617449608&sr=8-1

Oct 29, 2021 • 27min
Janet Attwood, The Passion Test
In today’s episode, we chat with Janet Attwood, a bestselling author with more than 20 books under her name. She is also a passion, fulfillment, and creative coach, a Transcendental Meditation teacher, and an Ayurveda believer.Janet is the creator of the “Passion Test” -- which is both a test and book that helps you discover your true passion and really start living your life’s purpose. In addition, she has expanded the Passion Test to different areas of life including: Passion Test for kids & teens, and the Passion Test for business. She followed up with “Your Hidden Riches: Unleashing your power of rituals to create a life of meaning and purpose.”Janet says the Passion Test enables individuals to realize that they're not just going through this world on automatic, but they can be able to tap into their genius and really use their creativity to bring out their gifts so that they can share them with the world. It helps you to become a manifestation magnet. In this conversation, Janet gives us a toolkit on how to be creative, what to do when you’re dealing with blockers of creativity and how to get rid of limiting beliefs about yourself so as to keep the passion alive and burning. Here is what works for her:The first is Transcendental meditation, where she uses rituals to enhance her life and refuel. This relies heavily on meditation. The second is undoing her limiting belief- this is where she changes what she puts her mind to focus on while using positive words when talking to herself.The third is TheWork, based on a process developed by Katie Byron. This is a process of self-inquiry that allows you to access the wisdom that lives within you by asking yourself the “Four Questions and a Turnaround method”Fourth, Janet uses the Maro-Up process which she also wrote a book on. Here, Janet uses the 10 principles of Wahei Takeda, the Japanese Warren Buffet, who used the Maro-Up teachings of gratitude to make his fortune and live his life.Lastly, find a mentor. A mentor who can untangle and undo the beliefs that you have about your inability to shine a light on your greatness and inspire transformation through love. In summary, through Janet's years of Meditation practice, developing the Passion Tests which have been used by millions of people and written bestsellers, Janet believes that in order to live a high level of creativity, we must share our lovely gifts with the world, no matter what it is, because that's the path to happiness. Janets Website: The Passion TestMaro-Up: Maro Up: The Secret to Success Begins with Arigato: Wisdom from the “Warren Buffet of JapanYour hidden riches: Your Hidden Riches, unleashing the power of rituals to create a life of meaning and purposeThe Work by Byron Katie: The Work

Oct 25, 2021 • 30min
Sherry Fernandez, author of LIfe Mastery
Meet Sherry Fernandez, author of Life Mastery: Personal Progression Toward an Infinite PotentialIt's a USA Today & Wall Street Journal Bestseller! Sherry offers a formula for Continual Expansion into Your Own Greatness: Contentment + Progress = HappinessThough deep in the throes of childhood family chaos with two unstable and unhappy parents -- divorcing, marrying others, then remarrying-amidst constant moving and dysfunctional childrearing -- Sherry Stirling Fernandez still knew that she was destined for great things. She believed in her potential for greatness!And that is something she wants you to instill in you! Along with the clearly defined pathway to achieve it!Sherry's new USA Today and Wall Street Journal bestseller Life Mastery: Personal Progression Toward an Infinite Potential makes the case that if you are not progressing toward a better version of yourself, you can never achieve any true sense of joy...For happiness comes from recognizing and celebrating the fulfillment of your personal goals no matter how challenging -- and then setting out on the road to the next one. A lifetime of progress toward your infinite potential is what makes you exceptional, fills your heart and enables you to leave your imprint on the world -- your legacy! Her incredibly powerful book provides you the keys to embark on this quest-the determination of your WHY -- without which you will likely fail quickly. The WHAT -- what needs your focus and attention to achieve Life Mastery in eight different aspects of your life. And the HOW -- getting an assessment of where you are; what goals and action steps to take; the systems to put in place and the habits you need to instill (or replace). This exceptional manual gives you everything you need to get you on the road to Life Mastery, and inspires you to take that first step!Along the way, Sherry tells her own inspiring story: how she left home at 17, a wild teen flirting with thievery, drugs and self-destruction, pregnant at 19, married by 22 and living a "hippie" lifestyle with all that implied in the 1970s. She and husband Ken lived on the edge of destitution until they began to explore personal development through books, tapes and live events with leaders in the movement. Slowly they inched themselves and their six-yes, count them! -- six children forward toward a better, more rewarding and financially strong life. Much of the impetus for that came from Sherry's relentless pursuit of inner fortitude, wisdom and the goals she set for herself to overcome habits, fears and resistance that held back her progress toward infinite potential -- and sharing with Ken what she learned along the way. Ultimately, Ken started a highly successful construction supply company, and Sherry launched FitMania, boutique fitness and personal development business, that also guided clients on mastery over all aspects of their life that contributed to achieving or exceeding the goals they set for themselves and the dreams they had in their hearts.Her years with FitMania were rich and rewarding, but it was the transformation of her clients that so inspired Sherry to turn her entire attention to coaching individuals on achieving full Life Mastery by focusing on the physical, the spiritual, relationships, education, motivation, vocation, money, lifestyle and character.In fact, her book features an excellent assessment tool that let's readers determine what areas of their life need tuning up, and then how to take each of those vulnerable areas forward with the steps to keep moving ahead on the road to improvement...how to stay motivated and committed to the outcome, never losing sight of your WHY!So often Sherry observed people in personal transformation programs leave excited and vowing change, only to slip back into old habits without a practical accountable way to implement that change. A solution to that is what Life Mastery brings to the discourse. For, as Sherry holds, as you reach each new victory, that feeling of contentment can only be sustained by continued progress. And in that combination, lies the key to prolonged happiness. Learn MoreBook• Life Mastery: Personal Progression Toward an Infinite Potential• Available on Amazon.com for $23.49 in hardcover, $16.95 on softcover, and $4.99 on Kindle. Website• www.LifeMasteryInfo.comFree Resources • Download link for free tracking sheets: https://lifemasteryinfo.com/tracking-sheets/• Download link for free Recommended Reading list: https://lifemasteryinfo.com/suggested-reading/• Download link for free Life Mastery Personal Assessment: https://lifemasteryinfo.com/assessment/ Mentoring• Life Mastery Mentoring Program (coming soon)Social Media• Facebook/Sherry: https://www.facebook.com/sherry.s.fernandez• Facebook/Life Mastery Mentors: https://www.facebook.com/lifemasterymentors• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lifemasterymentors/

Oct 18, 2021 • 23min
Andrew Embry, Brand Manager and Spoken Word Poet
We are back for another great interview, today with Andrew Embry, a brand manager -- plus a wordsmith, poet. and creative alchemist. Andrew combines spoken word & poetry with his data research and marketing roles at Eli Lilly and Company. Listen to the entire podcast to hear Andrews poem “bringing love into work” starting at 15:47Andrew has been writing and performing poetry since he was a child. He has managed to not only use poetry skills offstage but also bringing these skills to work too where he has performed in front of 1000 of his colleagues. He is an avid reader of books, blogs, and watcher of films to keep his creative juice flowing. One of those books is Radical Candor by Kim Scott. The book focuses on the importance of giving quality, direct feedback to individuals, which has enabled him to give and receive feedback better. Andrew says, if you can help people see how they're using their own style of creativity, then they can see how much that's valued and they can lean into who they are and bring even more value to you and your team.Andrew has been writing his blog Striking Matches since Jube 2013, and he gives us pointers on how he has been able to get creative ideas over the past 9 years to keep writing. The way he has done this is by having a creative mindset-believing that there is a story and hidden beauty inside everything. Looking at the world (experiences) as your oyster.A few ideas on how to bring creativity to work especially in remote settings or working from home can include: getting up and taking walks, working out in the morning, or even taking breaks during the day just to go play with your kids.As part of the brand management team, you can bring creativity in your solutions by being empathetic to your customers’ needs, while at the same time using the data you collect to make heart-level decisions when telling stories.Andrews Blog: Striking MatchesYoutube: Andrews performance at Eli Lily's 140th anniversaryCompany Website:Eli Lily & CompanyKim Scott’s book: Radical CandorSummary.The future of marketing will be more innovative in the digital space, as we focus on meeting customers at their point of need. We need to know how to use machine learning to help turn data into insights that we can use to be better. Listen to the entire podcast to hear Andrews poem “bringing love into work” Original creative work is copyrighted, provided by the artist, and used with permission.

Oct 15, 2021 • 25min
Justin McRoberts, Faith Leader and Author
Christian Thought Leader, Author, and Songwriter Justin McRoberts Inspires Readers to Recreate Within God’s Image in New Book – It Is What You Make of It“Adding new energy to old things can turn something good into phenomenal.”– Justin McRoberts“It is what it is”—a common phrase you hear and maybe even say yourself. But the truth is that there is not one square inch in the whole domain of our human existence that simply is what it is. Justin McRoberts invites you to embrace a new mindset: It Is What You Make of It.In his new book, It Is What You Make of It: Creating Something Great from What You’ve Been Given, McRoberts shares key moments from his twenty-plus years as an artist, church planter, pastor, singer-songwriter, author, neighbor, and father, passing on lessons and practices learned about making something good from what you’ve been given rather than simply accepting things as they are. Thought-provoking but actionable, It Is What You Make of It declares that love doesn’t just win, mercy doesn’t just triumph, and light doesn’t just cast out shadow. Rather, such renewal requires the work of human hands and hearts committed to a vision of a world made right (or at least a little better). When we partner with God in these endeavors, we love the world well and honor the Creator in whose image we are made.Complete with stimulating questions and hilariously relatable anecdotes and antics, each chapter will help readers uncover the areas in their lives and communities that are waiting for them to boldly proclaim, “Let’s see what we can make of this.”Justin McRoberts lives in the Oakland–San Francisco Bay Area with his wife, Amy, and two children. He is the author of four books, including Prayer: 40 Days of Practice and May It Be So: 40 Days with the Lord’s Prayer. Justin’s sixteen albums and EPs have gained him a faithful audience among listeners nationwide since 1999.Justin leans on his over twenty years in the arts and ministry to mentor and coach artists and pastors in person as well as over video calls. He is also the host of the podcast @ Sea with Justin McRoberts and co-founding pastor of Shelter-Vineyard Church Community in Concord, CA. Justin regularly travels to speak at churches and colleges, as well as leads retreats for ministry staff, college students, and young adults. YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJlBMsfsQ3fBItnQ9eUMfKw Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/JustinRMcRoberts/Twitter: http://justinmcroberts.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/justinmcroberts/Website: http://justinmcroberts.com/

Oct 12, 2021 • 19min
Mark Ryall, Fiction Author of Age-Decoded
Meet our guest, Dr. Mark Ryall, author of the new speculative fiction book, Age-Decoded. It took some struggle and two career changes before Mark Ryall discovered his “genuine self” as a teacher. He had always yearned for a career that brought him closer to people, and teaching became the natural place for him. He went on to teach economics and mathematics at Royal St. George's College (Toronto) and Hillfield Strathallan College (Hamilton) for a combined twenty-four years. He also loved coaching cross country running, a sport which he felt makes students stronger mentally and physically, and which promotes teamwork and mutual support. While teaching, he also began painting, specializing in acrylic art depicting historic old buildings and bridges in the Hamilton area, and more recently dabbling in sports portraits and landscapes.The speculative fiction Age-Decoded is Mark’s first novel. He wrote the first draft about ten years ago while he was teaching, to educate himself and the world about the imminent tsunami of genetic engineering technology. The novel was turned down by traditional publishers, so Mark accepted that rejection and let the novel sit for several years. But with his recent retirement from teaching and the full-blown emergence of CRISPR-like technology on the scientific front, he decided to work hard to update and improve the novel. He finally self-published it two months ago.Mark feels Age-Decoded is important because genetic engineering will impact human physical and psychological traits − fundamentally affecting what it means to be human. His goal is to educate people about this scientific breakthrough. Many effects will be hugely positive, as scientists work to eradicate diseases such as Alzheimer’s, Huntington’s, cystic fibrosis, HIV, sickle cell anemia, and even cancer. But unintended or intended negative effects are also possible with this technology. The story peers 100-200 years into the future, allowing the reader to critically imagine and feel the potential impact of genetic engineering on human nature. The story focuses on two human changes; one physical (stopping and reversing aging) and one psychological (spoiler alert: you will need to read the novel).Mark also competes in triathlons and represented Canada in the 2019 World Age-Group Championships in Lausanne, Switzerland. That race was a disaster as he never completed the swim due to “technical difficulties”! But he has vowed to redeem himself, to qualify and compete once again in the Championships sometime soon in the post-Covid era. Mark currently serves as a volunteer cross country coach for Westdale Secondary School in Hamilton. His education includes BSc, MBA, and PhD (University of Toronto, Education).The retailer link for the book Age-Decoded is: https://books2read.com/age-decodedDiscover Morehttp://www.linkedin.com/in/mark-ryall-2b87b2b https://www.quora.com/profile/Mark-Ryall-2http://www.instagram.com/m.ryallhttps://www.goodreads.com/author/show/21292342.Mark_P_Ryallhttps://twitter.com/RyallMark

Oct 8, 2021 • 17min
Teedeevee, Afro-Pop Singer
Meet Teedeevee, a top International Afro-Beat musician, lyricist, composer, and performer.In today’s episode, we chat with TeeDeeVee, an Afro-pop artist based in Lagos Nigeria. He is a Top International Afro-Beat musician, lyricist, composer, performer, and award winner of the Best upcoming artist in Africa in 2017.Teedeevee describes Afropop as African Music combined with popular hip hop music but with a heavier beat.Teedeevee tells us his music, and especially his latest song KORE (the mantra of Hope) is about giving people hope during this time of Covid. The continent, like all others, has been hit hard by the virus and people's lives and livelihoods have been affected and income taken away, so a song to keep people’s hope alive is what he created. In his album Adventure, Teedeevee’s music transcends into messages of love and life. Coming from Nigeria, TeeDeeVee struggled to balance both getting his law degree and his love for creating music that tells a story. In 2021, he successfully got admitted to the bar, and in the same year, released his album.Teedeevee is a dynamic and versatile artist, which has led him to have a majority of global influences and collaborations reflected in his work. His international break occurred in 2019 when he produced a song with a Lebanese producer. Soon afterward, he started getting recognition from International artists from different parts of the world including Sudan, Germany, and France, What’s his songwriting and production process like, and what influences him? Teedeevee’s creative process starts with an idea about making a beat, collaborating with an in-house producer, then gets a melody, then the lyrics, and finally, when all those have come together, he goes to the studio to complete the process.His influences come from his experiences in his own life, most of them a reflection of the obstacles and challenges he and other people from the African continent go through before becoming successful. Spotify: KOREConnect with him on Instagram TeeDeeVee Teedeevee’s success has come from being "stubborn" and resilient in believing that he will achieve everything he has set his mind to, in spite of the challenges he faces along the way. Through his music, he is able to encourage other people to follow their hearts’ desires.He says, "I'm a full-time lyricist, composer, performer, and Afro-pop musician from Nigeria. I have been in the music industry for over 7 years and with vast experience, I have been able to work with several music moguls and visionaries in the music world."Having over 90 records, I've carved a niche for my unique lyrical prowess and creative music style which would make any service I render special."My music is well known for the uniqueness in my sound and lyrics. I have also got several recognitions and awards for my services over the years."Versatility is one of the major pivots the Teedeevee brand stands for, having recorded different styles of music ranging from Trap, Hip-hop, R&B, Dancehall, Afrobeat, Afropop to Amapiano."The African vibes and traditions are what I always hope to showcase in my works and preach the Afro music through the Nick and crannies of the world."He is also an Attorney at Law. Graduated from the prestigious Faculty of Law at the University of Ibadan. Admitted into the Largest Bar in Africa as a Barrister.Facebook TeedeeveeofficialInstagram: @teedeevee_Spotify https://open.spotify.com/album/0j6vt44wBu6rPXhBLhvqFDApple Music https://music.apple.com/us/album/anywhere-single/1569673155Music tracks are copyrighted, provided by the artist, and used with permission.

Oct 5, 2021 • 26min
Meghana Giridhar, Founder of Let’s Curate
Our guest is Meghana Giridhar of Let's Curate. Meghana was a consultant for nonprofit venture capital funds and that triggered her interest in many different things. She has actually launched her own platform which we’ll know more about in this episode. She also loved traveling and it was there that she discovered many local artisans from the places she visited and found her passion in helpìng them. She discovered that there were art forms that she wouldn’t have found on Google. And that’s how she decided to launch a platform to help these artisans keep their art form alive. She decided to empower independent artisans by providing them with resources but also selling their products in a regular store format. Collecting the worksMeghana tells us that she made a scheduled list of 10 people and went on various travels and meet 10 people from 10 different countries. She talked to them about her idea for the platform. She kept in touch with them and keep the idea going and growing along. She built a relationship with them and then told them when the platform was ready to go. So the site was launched and it started as a typical e-commerce shop with the big difference that the products weren’t mass-produced. Each piece was limited edition, and sometimes the artisans even changed the form of art they were selling. If any other artisans want to get involved in this platform, the best way is to just reach out to Meghana on her email or her social media channels. This is a lovely creative platform, where the only goal is to make it accessible to everyone. Just email Meghana, tell her your story and what kind of work you’re involved in. It really is that simple as Meghana believes this is the best way to talk business, with authenticity. For the art loversSo for people looking to actually acquire a piece of art from the site they can actually go to the platform and pick what they prefer. They’ve divided the works in terms of continents. But you can zoom into the country of your preference and find wonderfully inspiring pieces that are native to those places. Her challengesMeghana talks about the challenges she was faced by venturing into the work of creation. One of the biggest challenges she had to overcome was explaining her idea. She wanted to convey that her idea wasn’t only a brand, not just a shop. Her idea was to empower artists and give them the resources. And with that, teaching was also needed on how to use said resources. This wasn’t just putting their products on a site but also putting history and showcasing the artist itself. She was able to overcome this challenge and now has a successful platform that also features an artist spotlight where they sell limited edition pieces of said artist. The work her platform is doing is amazing and it will continue to grow as more artists join in. It is more than just another shop, it feels like a museum with pieces from all over the world that you can take home with you. And that’s also where the magic lays. If you want to reach out to Meghana or know more about her work:Instagram @lets_curate Email them at letscurateinfo@gmail.com

Oct 1, 2021 • 34min
Roman LC Martinez, Fine Artist and Filmmaker
Our guest is Roman LC Martinez Roman is a professional illustrator and a filmmaker in LA. He's founded the Film Reframed studio, and he's also working with a program called the Unhoused Art Initiative. And we're going to talk about how he's working with this program for people who are experiencing homelessness in LA. And we also want to talk about his work, Roman, we want to talk about your projects and also some of the things that you're working on to support these unhoused artists. So we've got a lot to cover in our short time together, but we're going to get through it all. Prioritizing workRoman jokingly thinks having ADHD is a driver for him, when he’s interested in something it's very easy for him to channel a lot of energy and passion towards that particular thing. And seeing that he has a diverse scope of projects and goals like contributing to the world, for him it helps if he hits a wall in one pursuit or maybe there's just a delay in something that he’s working on, for Roman, it’s very easy to shift over to the next one and to the next one. So each goal develops at its own pace.His passion project: Unhoused Arts Initiative Roman tells the story of how he started working with the union rescue mission, which is one of the largest missions on skid row in Los Angeles, serving the unhoused population. He tells of how he wanted to help artists who don't have access to supplies or storage for their artwork, create art that communicated some of their experience. And after going without a real expectation of how it was going to go. Roman had an idea to bring gallery-quality supplies into a situation where there may be artists who want to create something, and to give them the space and the time and the attention to do that, then maybe it will yield beautiful results. Unhoused Arts initiativeRoman thinks that the interesting impact of the initiative frames this space that way because when you give people the opportunity to say what they want to say, you're really just providing an opportunity for them to be listened to. He believes that the unhoused population has so much to say that they're always sharing it with people and that the people that provide services for them sometimes start to tune that out, out of necessity for the volume that they go through. Roman tries to provide his full focused attention and just tries to hear what they had to say. The mindset, from artist and educator to gallery managerRoman tells us about the challenges in working with unhoused artists. One of which is you don't have an address to locate them by or a consistent phone number. Roman says they’re not in a state of mind to even remember that they made the art and often times many of them will get up after the session and just walk out into the streets. So some of the artists you will lose complete track of after you've worked with them. Roman explains about being a manager for these artists, how there's really no way to control that force of nature in that situation, that the best that he could do is report everybody's name who came in and record the story they shared with him while they were working on the art. So for Roman, it was about cataloging that information and, and keeping it somewhere safe cause everything just happened in a brief moment. Roman’s next steps...Roman goes on to explain that for the Unhoused Arts the next step is to do a personal fundraiser to get a high-quality art book made of the art that was lost so that they can at least show people what there was. Roman explains that it won't be the same tangible experience of seeing it in a gallery. But the importance is that things have meaning. Roman believes that that is the way to help the artwork of the artists and the space they were in at that time live on and continue to make an impact and hopefully create more opportunities for future exhibitions. As far as Romans’ personal projects go, he explains how he had 10 large-scale oil paintings of the work that he does which he calls the blind portrait series. He goes on to explain that he will sit down with subjects in person, and continue to ask them a question about life or something existential, or even something just very minimal, but he would ask with the intent to listen. Support the fundraiserhttps://charity.gofundme.com/o/en/campaign/little-tokyo-small-business-relief-fundLearn about Film Reframed online education project https://www.filmreframed.com/Visit the Push and Pour Coffee Shop we mentionedhttps://www.pushandpour.com/