
In AI We Trust?
In AI We Trust? is a podcast hosted by Miriam Vogel of EqualAI where we survey the global landscape for inspiration and best practices in the AI space with an eye toward responsible, trustworthy AI. Each episode aims to answer a ‘big question’ as we speak to leaders in government, tech and civil society.
Latest episodes

Apr 23, 2025 • 53min
AI Literacy Series Ep. 7: Dr. Andrew Ng on Scaling AI for Social Good
In this episode of In AI We Trust?, Dr. Andrew Ng joins co-hosts Miriam Vogel and Rosalind Wiseman to discuss AI literacy and the need for widespread AI understanding. Dr. Ng makes a call to action that everyone should learn to code, especially with AI-assisted coding becoming more accessible. The episode also addresses AI fears and misconceptions, highlighting the importance of learning about AI for increased productivity and potential career growth. The conversation further explores AI's potential for positive large-scale social impact, such as in climate modeling, and the challenges of conveying this potential amidst widespread fears across the general public. The discussion addresses AI's potential for social good, the urgent need for AI education and upskilling, and the complexities of AI integration in education. This important episode underscores Andrew, Miriam & Rosalind’s belief in the transformative potential of AI when individuals are empowered to manage, adapt and build with it, fostering innovation across various sectors and in user’s daily lives.

Apr 7, 2025 • 51min
AI Literacy Series Ep. 6: Bridging the Gap Between Technology and Communities with Susan Gonzalez
This episode of In AI We Trust? features co-hosts Miriam Vogel and Rosyn Man continuing their AI literacy series with Susan Gonzalez, CEO of AI&You. The discussion centers on the critical need for basic AI literacy within marginalized communities to create opportunities and prevent an "AI divide." Susan emphasizes overcoming fear, building foundational AI knowledge, and understanding AI's impact on jobs and small businesses. She stresses the urgency of AI education and AI&You's role in providing accessible resources. The episode highlights the importance of dialogue and strategic partnerships to advance AI literacy, ensuring that everyone can benefit from AI's opportunities before the "window" closes.

Mar 25, 2025 • 1h 16min
AI Literacy Series Ep. 5 with Judy Spitz: Fixing the Tech Talent Pipeline
Description: In this episode of In AI We Trust?, co-hosts Miriam Vogel and Rosalind Wiseman speak with Dr. Judith Spitz, Founder and Executive Director of Break Through Tech sheds light on the blind spots within the industry, and discusses how Break Through Tech is pioneering innovative programs to open doors to talented individuals. She gets more young people from a broad array of backgrounds to study technology disciplines, ensures they learn leadership and other skills critical to their success, and gets them into industry- she is single-handedly building a more robust and prepared tech ecosystem.

Mar 11, 2025 • 56min
AI Literacy Series Ep. 4: Mason Grimshaw on AI Literacy and Data Sovereignty for Indigenous Communities
Mason Grimshaw: the Power of Identity, Community, and RepresentationDescription: Co-hosts of EqualAI’s AI Literacy Series, Miriam Vogel and Rosalind Wiseman are joined by Mason Grimshaw, data scientist at Ode Partners and VP at IndigiGenius. Grimshaw discusses his roots growing up on a reservation, and what led him to the field of AI. He explains why it’s his mission to bring AI education and tools back to his community. Grimshaw articulates how AI literacy is essential for Indigenous communities to ensure they retain data sovereignty and benefit from these game-changing tools.Literacy Series Description: The EqualAI AI Literacy podcast series builds on In AI We Trust?’s global reach, focusing specifically on AI literacy. Featuring prominent leaders in the technology, education, and governance fields, this special series will provide listeners with valuable insights and discussions around AI’s impact on society, leading efforts in this area of AI literacy, and how listeners can benefit from these experts and tools.

Feb 27, 2025 • 1h 15min
AI Literacy Series Ep. 3: danah boyd on Thinking Critically about the Systems That Shape Us
In this engaging conversation, danah boyd, a Partner Researcher at Microsoft and founder of Data & Society Research Institute, dives into the complexities of AI and its impact on society. She challenges easy narratives about AI, urging us to question who designs these systems and their implications for education and power dynamics. The discussion addresses critical themes like privacy concerns, biases in AI, and the need for inclusive technology development. Boyd also highlights the importance of AI literacy for parents and educators to navigate this rapidly evolving landscape.

Feb 11, 2025 • 40min
AI Literacy Series Ep. 2 with Dewey Murdick (CSET): Centering People in AI’s Progress
Dewey Murdick, Executive Director at Georgetown's CSET, brings a wealth of experience in AI policy and societal impact. He dives into the complexities of global AI policy, specifically U.S.-China dynamics, emphasizing the need for strategic and clear goals. Murdick discusses the critical role of AI literacy in education, advocating for tailored approaches to engage students. He also explores AI's transformative implications in national security and ethical governance, showcasing how AI can enhance personal learning experiences while maintaining the essential human touch.

Jan 29, 2025 • 26min
AI Literacy Series Ep. 1: What is AI and Why Are We Afraid of It?
In this engaging discussion, bestselling author Rosalind Wiseman, known for her insights on social dynamics through works like "Queen Bees and Wannabes," teams up with Miriam Vogel to explore the nuances of AI. They dissect what AI is and the fears surrounding it, emphasizing the importance of AI literacy in education and society. The dialogue highlights how understanding AI can empower young voices, foster critical thinking, and bridge generational gaps, ultimately transforming apprehension into informed engagement with technology.

Jan 17, 2025 • 30min
Senator Mike Rounds (R-SD): Sen. Rounds' 2025 Message: Why Every Senate Committee is Talking AI This Congress
In this episode of #InAIWeTrust, Senator Mike Rounds (R-SD) discusses the transformative role of AI and the Senate’s efforts to support its innovation and development. From working to advance AI-driven health care solutions to ensuring U.S. leadership in innovation, he shares legislative priorities and insights from the Senate AI Insight Forums and underscores the importance of AI literacy and collaboration across industry, reminding us: “AI is real, it’s here, it’s not going away.”

Dec 20, 2024 • 37min
Vilas Dhar (McGovern Foundation): AI for the people and by the people: Year-in-Review and 2025 Predictions
In this 2024 year-end episode of In AI We Trust?, Vilas Dhar of the Patrick J. McGovern Foundation and Miriam Vogel of EqualAI review 2024 and discuss predictions for the year ahead.

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Oct 31, 2024 • 26min
Elizabeth Kelly (AISI): How will the US AI Safety Institute lead the US and globe in AI safety?
Elizabeth Kelly, Director of the U.S. Artificial Intelligence Safety Institute (AISI), discusses pivotal AI safety initiatives and the recent National Security Memorandum on AI. She highlights the significance of the Biden Executive Order aimed at innovation and consumer protection. Kelly shares insights on AISI's role in promoting collaboration between the industry and government, partnerships with major AI firms, and the upcoming inaugural AI safety summit. The conversation emphasizes the importance of multidisciplinary collaboration to mitigate AI risks and ensure safe practices.
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