
Pastors Talk - A podcast by 9Marks
Pastors Talk is a weekly conversation between Jonathan Leeman and Mark Dever about practical aspects of the Christian life and pastoral ministry.
Latest episodes

Apr 11, 2023 • 28min
Episode 234: On Spurgeon and the Poor (with Alex DiPrima)
In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark and Jonathan chat with Alex DiPrima, the author of Spurgeon and the Poor.

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Apr 4, 2023 • 21min
Episode 233: On Charges of Domestic Abuse (with Deepak Reju)
In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark and Jonathan chat with Deepak Reju about pastoral responses to domestic abuse.

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Mar 28, 2023 • 27min
Episode 232: On Reaching and Mobilizing College Students (with Matt Schmucker and Paul Billings)
In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark and Jonathan talk with Matt Schmucker and Paul Billings about reaching, discipling, and mobilizing college students for missions.

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Mar 21, 2023 • 23min
Episode 231: On the Lord's Supper - Nuts and Bolts (with Bobby Jamieson)
It's clear in Scripture: local churches should celebrate the Lord's Supper. But there's a lot about these celebrations that is up to us to decide. In this episode of Pastors Talk, Jonathan asks Mark and Bobby a ton of rapid-fire questions about the Lord's Supper.

Mar 14, 2023 • 19min
Episode 230: On Christian Publishing in Africa (with Tommie van der Walt)
In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark and Jonathan chat with Tommie van der Walt about the state of Christian publishing in South Africa.

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Mar 7, 2023 • 23min
Episode 229: On Green Dot and Red Dot Churches
In this episode of Pastors Talk, Jonathan and Mark talk about “red-dot churches” and “green-dot churches.”Related Resources:“Discipling” by Mark Dever“Evangelism” by Mack Stiles“Elders–The Church’s Lead Disciple-Makers” by Jeramie Rinne“A Foolproof Discipling Program: Corporate Worship” by John Sarver“Cultivating a Culture of Discipling” by Mark Dever (video)“How can I as a church leader help cultivate a culture of discipleship?“

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Feb 28, 2023 • 30min
Episode 228: On Caring for Missionaries (with Miller Johnson)
In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark Dever and Jonathan Leeman chat about how churches should care for their missionaries.Mentioned Resource:“Missions” by Andy JohnsonRelated Resources:“On Funding Missionaries” by Mark Dever, Jonathan Leeman, and Tyler Markson“Stop Sending Missionaries: Why More Isn’t Always Better” by Steve Jennings“Seven Principles for Funding Foreign Missions” by Tyler Markson“How Can I Support International Missions?” by Mark Collins

Feb 21, 2023 • 25min
Episode 227: On The Fear of Man

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Feb 14, 2023 • 29min
Episode 226: On Asking Deacons What They Do (with Grayson Bishop, Mathew Freeman, Jen Kim, and Rebeca Roberts)

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Feb 7, 2023 • 23min
Episode 225: On Beauty and Creativity in the Church (with Thomas Terry)
Thomas Terry, Pastor at Trinity Church and a poet, discusses the intersection of beauty and creativity in worship. He emphasizes how artistry can deepen the communal church experience and reflect God's character. The conversation critiques superficial aesthetics, advocating for authenticity and thoughtful design in worship spaces. Terry also explores enhancing sermons with sensory experiences while balancing creativity with biblical faithfulness, encouraging a richer connection between congregants and Scripture.