
Pastors Talk - A podcast by 9Marks
Pastors Talk is a weekly conversation between Jonathan Leeman and Mark Dever about practical aspects of the Christian life and pastoral ministry.
Latest episodes

Jan 23, 2024 • 30min
Episode 254: On Interacting After Church Discipline
In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark Dever and Jonathan Leeman talk about how we should interact with church disciplined members.

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Jan 16, 2024 • 26min
Episode 253: On Criteria for Church Discipline
The hosts discuss criteria for church discipline, including the importance of verifiability, significance, and repentance. They explore the difference between regret and repentance, the challenges of navigating difficult cases, and the need for clear communication. They also tackle the criteria for going public with church discipline, emphasizing transparency while protecting individuals and avoiding judgmental attitudes.

Dec 5, 2023 • 28min
Episode 252: On Catholicity
In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark Dever and Jonathan Leeman talk about the newest edition of Church Matters, Catholicity: Churches Partnering Together.

Nov 28, 2023 • 27min
Episode 251: On Love the Ones Who Drive You Crazy (with Jamie Dunlop)
If your church is centered on Christ alone, unity will sometimes involve building genuine friendships with Christians with whom you honestly don't share much in common. In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark Dever interviews Jamie Dunlop about his new book, Love the Ones Who Drive You Crazy.

Nov 21, 2023 • 27min
Episode 250: On Statements of Faith
In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark Dever and Jonathan Leeman talk about the role and the importance of statements of faith.

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Nov 14, 2023 • 25min
Episode 249: On Church Covenants
What's the history behind church covenants? Do they have more or less authority than the Bible? Is having a church covenant abusive? In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark Dever and Jonathan Leeman talk about church covenants.

Nov 7, 2023 • 26min
Episode 248: On Words
Speakers reflect on the impact of word choice and humor, struggle to balance boldness and tenderness, discuss the use of sarcasm in ministry, emphasize the importance of valuing others, and provide tips for clear and charitable communication.

Oct 31, 2023 • 24min
Episode 247: On Shepherding the Pastor (with Phil Newton and Rich Shadden)
Young pastors often have clear vision but little depth perception. From the interview phase to what to preach next, young pastors need guidance from older pastors around the area to offer wisdom and guidance.In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark Dever and Jonathan Leeman chat with Phil Newton and Rich Shadden, authors of Shepherding the Pastor.

Oct 3, 2023 • 30min
Episode 246: On Planting by Pastoring (with Nathan Knight)
In this Pastors Talk episode, Mark and Jonathan interview Nathan Knight, one of the pastors at Restoration Church in Washington, D.C.

Sep 19, 2023 • 29min
Episode 245: On Pastoral, Public Tone (with Kevin DeYoung)
In this Pastors Talk episode, Jonathan interviews Mark and Kevin DeYoung on pastoral, public tone.