
Pastors Talk - A podcast by 9Marks
Pastors Talk is a weekly conversation between Jonathan Leeman and Mark Dever about practical aspects of the Christian life and pastoral ministry.
Latest episodes

Feb 8, 2022 • 28min
Episode 196: On "No Shortcut to Success" Part 1 (with Matt Rhodes)
In this episode of Pastors Talk, Jonathan and Mark chat with Matt Rhodes, the author of "No Shortcut to Success: A Manifesto for Modern Missions."They discuss rapidity in missions and whether or not missionaries should be “professionals.”

Feb 1, 2022 • 24min
Episode 195: On Wisdom for New Pastors (with Bob Johnson, Omar Johnson, and Sam Emadi)
In this episode of Pastors Talk, two pastors—Bob Johnson and Omar Johnson—offer some counsel to a brand-new pastor, Sam Emadi.

Jan 25, 2022 • 27min
Episode 194: On How the Puritans Shaped Mark's Ministry
In this episode, Jonathan Leeman chats with Mark Dever about who the Puritans are and how they’ve shaped his ministry.

Dec 21, 2021 • 36min
Episode 193: On Top 2021 News Stories for Pastors (with Collin Hansen & Garrett Kell)
Last week, Collin Hansen reflected on the top stories of last year. So we had him and Garrett Kell on this episode of Pastors Talk to think through each of these stories pastorally.

Dec 14, 2021 • 23min
Episode 192: On Pastoral Ministry in Post-Christian Sweden (with Johnny Lithell, Ben Lacey, and Caleb Morell)
Mark Dever, Caleb Morell, and Ben Lacey chat with Swedish pastor Johnny Lithell about the ups and downs of ministry in a place with so few Christians.

Dec 7, 2021 • 24min
Episode 191: On Pastoral Patience - Part 2 (with John Folmar & Josh Manley)
In a previous episode, Jonathan Leeman chatted with Mark Dever, Josh Manley, and John Folmar about the value of pastoral patience.In this follow-up episode, they discuss how a pastor can slowly change things in a church.

Nov 30, 2021 • 27min
Episode 190: On Pastoral Patience - Part 1 (with John Folmar & Josh Manley)
For the first ten minutes of this episode, Jonathan Leeman and Mark Dever talk to Josh Manley and John Folmar about Christianity in Afghanistan and the UAE. Then they spend the rest of their time discussing the necessity of pastoral patience.

Nov 23, 2021 • 24min
Episode 189: How Can I Support International Missions? (with Mark Collins)
Every Christian has a role in supporting international missions. In this episode of Pastors Talk, Jonathan Leeman chats with Mark Dever and Mark Collins—a supported worker in East Asia—about the relationship between a church and its missionaries.

Nov 16, 2021 • 27min
Episode 188: On Sound Doctrine and the Problems with the "Deconstruction" Project
In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark Dever chats with Jonathan Leeman about our new Journal and, in particular, Jonathan’s Editor’s Note, which focuses on the problems of the “deconstruction” project.

Nov 9, 2021 • 22min
Episode 187: On Nine Marks of a Healthy Church (4th Edition)
We released Nine Marks of a Healthy Church more than 20 years ago. Today, we celebrate its fourth edition.In this Pastors Talk episode, Jonathan chats with Mark about the book’s history, and how this edition introduces two “additional” marks.