
Interior Integration for Catholics
The mission of this podcast is the formation of your heart in love and for love, Together, we shore up the natural, human foundation for your spiritual formation as a Catholic. St. Thomas Aquinas asserts that without this inner unity, without this interior integration, without ordered self-love, you cannot enter loving union with God, your Blessed Mother, or your neighbor. Informed by Internal Family Systems approaches and grounded firmly in a Catholic understanding of the human person, this podcast brings you the best information, the illuminating stories, and the experiential exercises you need to become more whole in the natural realm. This restored human formation then frees you to better live out the three loves in the two Great Commandments – loving God, your neighbor, and yourself. Check out the Resilient Catholics Community which grew up around this podcast at https://www.soulsandhearts.com/rcc.
Latest episodes

Apr 7, 2025 • 1h 21min
163 You Are One and Many: Unity, Multiplicity, and Internal Systems
Fearfully and wonderfully made – that is what you are. And made not just as a single, homogeneous personality – but as a system. But what is a system? How can we understand ourselves not just as a monolithic personality, not just as a unity, and not just as a multiplicity, but in terms of our inner relationships with ourselves? Join Dr. Gerry Crete, Bridget Adams, and Dr. Peter as we explore how each of us has a “kingdom within” – and how understanding that kingdom, understanding our multiplicity of our system allows us to better love God, our neighbor, and ourselves, the three loves in the two great commandments, firmly grounded in a Catholic understanding of the human person. For the full video experience with visuals, graphics, and for discussion in the comments section, check us out on our YouTube channel here: www.youtube.com/@InteriorIntegration4Catholics

Mar 17, 2025 • 1h 17min
162 Your Body and Your Parts
“The body remembers what the mind forgets,” psychiatrist Jacob Levy Moreno tells us. And Bessel van der Kolk takes it a step further – the body not only remembers, but “the body keeps the score.” Our parts have so much to tell us about their experiences – our “forgotten,” unconscious experiences – and so often, our parts communicate with us through our bodies. Will we listen? Will you listen? In this episode, Marion Moreland, Jennifer Maher, and host Bridget Adams share with why and how our bodies remember what our minds forget, with examples from their lives. They stress the importance of a felt sense of safety. And they and offer you step-by-step guidance to help you to listen to your body in an experiential exercise if you’d like to listen to your body and hear what your parts want your innermost self to know about your experiences. For the full video experience with visuals, graphics, and for discussion in the comments section, check us out on our YouTube channel here: www.youtube.com/@InteriorIntegration4Catholics

Mar 3, 2025 • 1h 28min
161 Integrity: That You Be One Inside
Explore the six integrity needs crucial for holistic growth, from survival to mission. Discover how childhood experiences shape our sense of self-worth and agency. Delve into the intrinsic value of dignity and the impact of perfectionism. Unpack the challenges faced by Catholic leaders in maintaining personal integrity against societal pressures. Engage in experiential exercises that promote emotional awareness and authentic expression, helping you connect deeply with your inner self.

Feb 17, 2025 • 1h 28min
160 Your Parts Have These Six Attachment Needs
Feeling safe. Feeling seen and heard. Feeling reassured, soothed. Feeling cherished and delighted in. Feeling loved. Feeling that I belong. We all have these six attachment needs. But how do our parts experience these needs? Which kinds of parts have which kinds of attachment styles? How can I recognize which attachment needs different parts of me have? Where do I start in helping a part of me who is struggling with unmet attachment needs and an insecure attachment style? Catholic IFS therapists Marion Moreland and Peter Martin join me to discuss and answer these questions in depth. And, as a bonus, I offer you an experiential exercise to help you get in touch with your parts’ attachment needs and find the “next right step” in meeting them. For the full video experience with visuals, graphics, and discussion in the comments section, check us out on our YouTube channel here: www.youtube.com/@InteriorIntegration4Catholics

Feb 3, 2025 • 1h 34min
159 Who Are My Parts and Why Do They Battle Within Me?
Dr. Gerry Crete helps us unravel the confusion within us, why we have such deep internal conflicts and tensions that pull us in different directions and tear at our hearts. St. Paul tells us in Romans 7:15, “I do not understand my own actions. For I do not do what I want, but I do the very thing I hate.” What’s up with that? Parts. Parts are up with that, that’s what -- or who. And in this episode, Dr. Gerry and Bridget Adams shed so much light on our internal experience in our fallen human condition. Join us to learn about how parts, despite their good intentions and desires to help us, can generate impulses toward addictions and other problematic and even sinful behaviors. Learn how critical it is for parts to be integrated, to collaborate cooperatively with your inmost self, and most importantly, how parts can join in your loving God and neighbor with your whole heart in Dr. Gerry’s experiential exercise. For the full video experience with visuals, graphics, and discussion in the comments section, check us out on our YouTube channel here: www.youtube.com/@InteriorIntegration4Catholics

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Jan 20, 2025 • 1h 34min
158 Who is Your Inmost Self?
Who are you, deep inside, at the core of your being? Who lives in the inmost chamber of your personhood? Join us on an adventure to discover your core identity. Catholic experts Dr. Gerry Crete and Dr. Peter Martin find the convergences and synergies in Scripture, the early Church Fathers, the Eastern and Western Catholic monastic traditions, Doctors of the Church, the medieval Catholic theologians, the writings of contemplative saints, and the magisterial teachings of the Church -- supplemented by attachment theory, Internal Family Systems and other parts and systems approaches in the modern era – all in the service of answering the question – “Who is my inmost self?” What do the words inmost self, heart, soul, “nous,” and the “eyes of the soul” mean from a Catholic perspective? We bring together the best of the old and new, the spiritual and the secular, to help you know who you are at your core, all grounded in an authentically Catholic understanding of your human person. With an experiential exercise from Dr. Gerry, too. For the full experience with visuals, slides, B-roll, conversation and discussion in the comments section and so much more, check us out on our YouTube channel here: www.youtube.com/@InteriorIntegration4Catholics

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Jan 6, 2025 • 1h 30min
157 Overview of Internal Family Systems -- Catholic Style
In this enlightening discussion, Marion Moreland, a certified Internal Family Systems therapist, and David Edwards, founder of St. Joseph Counseling, delve deep into the Internal Family Systems model through a Catholic lens. They explain the roles of internal 'parts' like managers, firefighters, and exiles, shedding light on how trauma shapes these dynamics. The conversation emphasizes self-compassion and the innate qualities that can be reclaimed for personal healing. Listeners are guided to foster nurturing inner dialogues, making connections between emotional well-being and spiritual growth.

Dec 16, 2024 • 1h 28min
156 Attachment, Love, God, and Parts: Q&A with Dr. Peter Martin
Real people, real questions. Parts, attachment, human formation, marriage, conscience, intimacy with God, connection with your innermost self… Dr. Peter Martin answers audience questions and leads a discussion in this episode, recorded live. Join in as a “fly on the wall” for the most cutting edge thinking and research on attachment and parts work, applied to the practical problems and issues we face in both the natural and spiritual realms. Join us on YouTube at InteriorIntegration4Catholics https://youtu.be/dyG_L4WyON4 to like, subscribe, ask questions, and comment -- we'll connect with you there.

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Dec 2, 2024 • 1h 26min
155 You Evangelizing You – “Internal Evangelization”
Dr. Peter Martin, a clinical psychologist from the Immaculate Heart of Mary Counseling Center, delves into Internal Evangelization Therapy. He emphasizes loving ourselves to bring our inner parts closer to God, using insights from attachment theory. The discussion highlights the importance of compassion for one's 'lost sheep,' and the role of spiritual intercessors. Dr. Martin explores how emotional dynamics impact faith and encourages listeners to avoid spiritual bypassing. He offers practical strategies for fostering self-awareness and embracing divine love.

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Nov 18, 2024 • 1h 22min
154 Attachment and Learning How to Love with Dr. Peter Martin
Dr. Peter Martin, a clinical psychologist and level one trained IFS therapist, discusses the profound connections between attachment theory and spirituality. He explores how early experiences shape perceptions of God, impacting spiritual health and personal relationships. Dr. Martin emphasizes the importance of integrated human formation through a Christ-centered lens. He introduces tools like the Level of Attachment Security in Spiritual Relationships (LASSR) for fostering self-love and emotional well-being. Prepare for insights that intertwine psychology with deep Catholic understanding.
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