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Jun 8, 2023 • 34min

Misstep 9 - 'Suffering is to be avoided' (The Plausibility Problem #9)

In the last of our current series – going through the missteps identified in The Plausibility Problem by Ed Shaw – we discuss whether suffering can and should be avoided. We share our own painful experiences and examine why some argue that the suffering of celibate same-sex attracted Christians is a reason to abandon traditional biblical teaching on sexual ethics.We go on to show that suffering is a normal part of following Jesus, whether you're gay or straight, single or married. We look at some of the reasons why God allows us to suffer and the joys and benefits that we receive precisely because we suffer.We also look at practical things that help us when we're struggling and ways that we can use our pain to love and serve others.Resources mentioned and relatedThe Plausibility Problem Ed ShawThe Plausibility Problem: A Review Steve WardSupport to Grieve Anne WittonYou Only Live Once. Really? Adam CurtisKitchen Floors and Gethsemane Andy RobinsonWhat's Good About Struggling With Same-sex Attraction? Anne WittonChildlessness Anne WittonAnne and Abby on Their Community House Anne WittonSharing Life Together Anne WittonConfronting Christianity Rebecca McLaughlinDark Clouds, Deep Mercy Mark Vroegop
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May 25, 2023 • 33min

Misstep 8 - 'Celibacy is bad for you' (The Plausibility Problem #8)

Today we unpick some of the cultural assumptions about sex being a need which underpin the idea that celibacy is bad for you. We discuss the problems with the view that sex is the only form of intimacy, sex is just about pleasure and sexual expression is core to our identity.We examine some faulty interpretations of significant Bible passages on sexual desire and show that the Holy Spirit enables us to live fulfilled lives as celebate people who enjoy God, his people and his creation.Resources mentioned and relatedThe Plausibility Problem Ed ShawThe Plausibility Problem: A Review Steve WardMarriage: God’s Solution to Sexual Temptation? Dani TreweekWhat is the Gift of Singleness? Andrew Bunt Finding Your Best Identity Andrew Bunt Finding Your Best Identity: A Review Alicia Barwick The Case Against the Sexual Revolution Louise PerryThe Case Against the Sexual Revolution: A Review Ed Shaw The Mental Health and Well-Being of Celibate Gay Christians Mark Yarhouse and Olya Zaporozhets Hey, Single Christian. Your Celibacy Isn't Extraordinary Dani Treweek Hey Single Christian. Your Celibacy is Uniquely Meaningful Dani Treweek 
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May 11, 2023 • 33min

Misstep 7 - 'Godliness is heterosexuality' (The Plausibility Problem #7)

What is godliness and what does it look like for people who experience opposite-sex and same-sex attraction? That's the question we explore today.We also look at why the idea that godliness for a gay Christian means developing heterosexual desires is unhelpful and unbiblical.Resources mentioned and relatedThe Plausibility Problem Ed ShawThe Plausibility Problem: A Review Steve WardWhat Does God Really Say About Sexuality? (Explore Questions #1)Called to be Holy and Blameless Andrew Bunt Putting My Armour On Anne WittonA Bible Chapter for Same-sex Attracted Christians Andrew BuntWhat's Good About Struggling With Same-sex Attraction? Anne Witton Does Living Out Support ‘Gay Cure’ or ‘Reparative Therapy’? Ed Shaw Can Your Sexuality Change? Peter Ould Gay Girl Good God Jackie Hill PerryGay Girl, Good God: A Review Adam Curtis The Heart of Christ in Heaven towards Sinners on Earth Thomas GoodwinGentle and Lowly Dane OrtlundGod Has a Name John Mark ComerPrecious Remedies Against Satan's Devices Thomas Brooks
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Apr 27, 2023 • 34min

Misstep 6 - 'Men and women are equal and interchangeable' (The Plausibility Problem #6)

In this episode we discuss how the Bible upholds the view that men and women have absolutely equal value and dignity, looking at how Jesus treated women and recognising the role that women played in his ministry and the growth of the early church. We also contrast Jesus' example of servant leadership with some of the power struggles in church and society today.We suggest how we can push back against gender stereotypes and promote body positivity to value the diverse experinces, interests and skills of both genders.We also discuss the genuine differences between women and men which mean that we aren't simply interchangeable, and look at how we can work in cooperation rather than competition with each other.Resources mentioned and relatedThe Plausibility Problem Ed ShawThe Plausibility Problem: A Review Steve WardWhat Should We Do With Gender Stereotypes?  Andrew BuntWhat Do ‘Man’ and ‘Woman’ Mean? Rebecca McLaughlinCrafts, Cream Teas and Chrysanthemums? How We Can Run Better Women’s Events Anne WittonEmbodied Preston SprinkleEmbodied: A Review Andrew Bunt What God Has to Say About Our Bodies Sam AllberryWhat God Has to Say About Our Bodies: A Review Dan Reid Liberated Karen SooleA Brief Theology of Periods (Yes, Really) Rachel JonesA Brief Theology of Periods (Yes, Really): A Review Anne Witton The Case Against the Sexual Revolution Louise PerryThe Case Against the Sexual Revolution: A Review Ed ShawAre Women Human? Dorothy L. SayersMarriage as a TrailerWhat Is Sexuality for? Ed Shaw 
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Apr 13, 2023 • 35min

Misstep 5 - 'Sex is where true intimacy is found' (The Plausibility Problem #5)

The team critique our cultural idolatry of sex and romance, which has also pervaded the church. We talk about why the assumption that sex is vital for human flourishing is so damaging and look at the impact it has on friendship, singleness and marriage.We see how the Bible challenges our cultural obsession with sex and explore how we can foster deep, non-sexual intimacy with God and others in Christian community.Resources mentioned and relatedThe Plausibility Problem Ed ShawThe Plausibility Problem: A Review Steve WardHave You Been Intimate with Anyone Recently? Andrew BuntHow Can You Live Life Without Sex? Ed ShawPower in the Mundane Andrew BuntJesus on Friendship Andrew BuntMade for Friendship Drew HunterMade for Friendship: A Review Natalie WilliamsTrue Friendship Vaughan RobertsTrue Friendship: A Review Stuart FergusonLonging for Intimacy Amy RiordanLonging for Intimacy: A Review Anne Witton 
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Mar 30, 2023 • 31min

Misstep 4 - 'If it makes you happy, it must be right' (The Plausibility Problem #4)

'If it makes you happy, it must be right' is a prevalent view in our culture. In this episode, the team critique this assumption. They share honestly some of the pain involved in following Jesus as same-sex attracted Christians and look at why following Jesus' example of costly obedience to God is truly life-giving.They also question whether we're actually good at determining what makes us happy and expose the ways that rejecting God's good design actually leads to greater unhappiness and unfulfillment.Resources mentioned and relatedThe Plausibility Problem Ed ShawThe Plausibility Problem: A Review Steve WardKitchen Floors and Gethsemane Andy RobinsonThe Lesbian Urge to Merge Anne WittonWhy I Won’t Settle for Less Than God’s Best Anne WittonWhere Joy and Grief Meet Anne WittonWhat's Good About Struggling With Same-sex Attraction? Anne Witton 
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Mar 16, 2023 • 34min

Misstep 3 - 'If you're born gay, it can't be wrong to be gay' (The Plausibility Problem #3)

In this episode we discuss whether our sexualities are something we're born with or whether our childhood development and cultural influences play a part on shaping our desires.We also talk about some of the damage that can be done if we follow all our innate desires, and discuss the doctrine of original sin and what that means for us.  And we point to the goodness of God in helping us understand what's best for us.Resources mentioned and relatedThe Plausibility Problem Ed ShawThe Plausibility Problem: A Review Steve WardWhy Are Some People Same-sex Attracted? Ed ShawBorn This Way. Really? Adam CurtisStubbornness and Same-Sex Attraction Ed ShawLive No Lies John Mark ComerStraight Expectations Julie BindelLisa Diamond research on sexual fluidityOriginal Sin Alan JacobsOh Who Is That Young Sinner A. E. Housman
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Mar 2, 2023 • 36min

Misstep 2 - 'A family is Mum, Dad and 2.4 children' (The Plausibility Problem #2)

We continue our exploration of Ed Shaw's book, The Plausibility Problem by looking at what family really means for a Christian. We look at how Jesus defines family and why that's good news for single, celibate people.We also talk about practical steps we can take to live as family and share our lives with one another in a meaningful way.Resources mentioned and relatedThe Plausibility Problem Ed ShawThe Plausibility Problem: A Review Steve WardWhat Does Jesus Teach About Nuclear Family? Andrew BuntSingles Need Family Time Too Andrew BuntWhy I Need My Single Friends Alison BoltonOn Scandalous Housing Arrangements Gregory ColesSharing Life Together Anne WittonThe Dishwasher Test Andrew BuntThe Gospel Comes With a House Key Rosaria Butterfield7 Myths About Singleness Sam Allberry7 Myths About Singleness: A Review Andrew Bunt 
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Feb 16, 2023 • 32min

Misstep 1 - 'Your identity is your sexuality' (The Plausibility Problem #1)

In this series, the team and guests take a tour of Ed Shaw's book, The Plausibility Problem, looking at the misstep he identifies in each chapter. This first episode explores the question of whether our identity is our sexuality.We discuss what part sexuality plays in shaping our identity, how we can find an identity rooted in Christ and how we can balance the reality of our struggles with sin with our status as children of God.Resources mentioned and relatedThe Plausibility Problem Ed ShawThe Plausibility Problem: A Review Steve WardShould I Call Myself Gay? (Questions No One Wants To Answer #2)The Christian Debate Over Sexual Identity: Orientation And Labelling Sam AllberryIt’s Not My Identity, But It Is My Story Anne WittonIs My Sexuality Who I Am? Andrew BuntFinding Your Best Identity Andrew BuntFinding Your Best Identity: A Review Alicia Barwick Meet the Authors #23 - Andrew BuntThe Joy of Pets Anne WittonGentle and Lowly Dane OrtlundDeeper Dane Ortlund
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Feb 2, 2023 • 30min

Quickfire Questions Bonus Episode

This bonus compilation episode features 13 guests from our second Meet The Authors series answering a series of five questions.They talk about what they'd say to their younger selves, recommend some resources, discuss what churches have done to help them, share what's been good about being same-sex attracted and / or single, and give some top tips for deepening healthy intimacy in friendship.Resources mentionedEmbodied Preston SprinklePeople To Be Loved Preston SprinkleSingle Gay Christian Greg ColesThe Plausibility Problem Ed ShawWhy Does God Care Who I Sleep With? Sam AllberryLonging For Intimacy Amy RiordanLiving In A Gray World Preston SprinkleIs God Anti-Gay? Sam AllberryGay Girl, Good God Jackie Hill PerryWashed and Waiting Wesley HillBreaking The Marriage Idol Kutter CallawayThe Returns Of Love Alex DavidsonPosture ShiftGuiding Families Of LGBT Loved Ones Bill Henson The Life You Never Expected Andrew and Rachel WilsonFinding Your Best Identity Andrew BuntJourney UKWhat Does The Bible Really Teach About Homosexuality? Kevin DeYoungYou can read reviews of many of these resources on the Living Out website here.

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