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Feb 1, 2024 • 38min

Craig Newmark on why he’s funding cybersecurity projects

Founded in 1995, Craigslist helped shape the modern web as we know it today, reshaping online economies and how people bought and sold goods. Today, its founder Craig Newmark is perhaps better known for his philanthropy than the classifieds site he founded. Newmark’s philanthropy spans issues of cybersecurity, technology and journalism, and he joins Safe Mode to discuss the evolution of the modern internet and why he’s putting his fortune to work on issues of cybersecurity. CyberScoop reporter Derek B. Johnson and FedScoop reporter Rebecca Heilweil also join the show to discuss their recent reporting on security measures for the federal government’s myriad social media accounts.
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Jan 25, 2024 • 44min

Threats to elections in 2024 and a deepfake in New Hampshire

In the year 2024, elections will take place around the world affecting some 4 billion people — an election year unlike any other. Besides the United States, voters will go to the polls in the European Union, the United Kingdom, India, Mexico and Indonesia, just to name a few. The next time we’ll see this many elections in one year will be in 2048. On Safe Mode this week, host Elias Groll sits down with Katie Harbath, who spent a decade at Facebook overseeing the platform’s work on elections, to discuss how the major technology platforms are preparing for an unprecedented election year. CyberScoop reporter Derek B. Johnson joins the show to discuss a deepfake robocall in the New Hampshire primary and what the incident tells us about what to expect regarding AI-driven disinformation in 2024.
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Jan 18, 2024 • 43min

How do you prevent a political campaign from getting hacked?

The upcoming year will feature an unprecedented number of democratic elections. In addition to the United States’s pivotal federal elections, countries that collectively make up more than half of the world’s populations will head to the polls. These elections are taking place against the backdrop of pervasive security vulnerabilities and come on the heels of a series of elections that have featured all kinds of digital meddling. Mick Baccio served as the first-ever chief information security officer of a presidential campaign, working on the Pete Buttigieg campaign in 2020. On this episode of Safe Mode, he sits down with host Elias Groll to discuss what it takes to secure a political campaign in 2024. CyberScoop reporter AJ Vicens also joins the show to discuss the FBI’s efforts to combat cybercrime and how the NSA is relying on AI to combat Chinese hacking operations.
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Jan 11, 2024 • 52min

Looking back at 2023 with the NSA’s Rob Joyce and Morgan Adamski

In our first episode of the year, we begin by looking back at 2023. The NSA’s Rob Joyce and Morgan Adamski sit down with host Elias Groll to examine the major cybersecurity trends of the year, the evolution of Russian hacking operations, how China is targeting U.S. critical infrastructure and how AI is changing the cybersecurity business. FedScoop reporter Nihal Krishan also joins the show to discuss his reporting on how AI watermarking has become a key tool in addressing AI safety.
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Dec 21, 2023 • 51min

Major breaches, the government’s AI push and UFOs: Scoop reporters on 2023’s biggest stories

In our final episode of the year, host Elias Groll sits down with reporters from CyberScoop, FedScoop and Defense Scoop to discuss the biggest stories of the year. Christian Vasquez and AJ Vicens join the show to talk through the biggest breaches of the year and how the cybersecurity landscape changed in 2023. Madison Alder and Rebecca Heilweil come on to discuss how the federal government responded to calls to regulate AI. Mickayla Easley and Brandi Vincent close out the episode by discussing how the U.S. military is changing how it operates in space and what the Pentagon is doing to get to the bottom of a string of UFO sightings.
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Dec 14, 2023 • 1h 3min

Five years of Distributed Denial of Secrets and a dangerous automotive vulnerability

It was WikiLeaks that pioneered the publishing and hosting of sensitive information, and while Julian Assange’s whistleblowing project has withered away, groups like Distributed Denial of Secrets are carrying on the work of trying to make public interest material more widely available — and to do so more responsibly. Emma Best is the founder of DDOS and she sits down with CyberScoop reporter AJ Vicens to discuss their work publishing and hosting leaked material. Reporter Christian Vasquez joins host Elias Groll to discuss his reporting on a concerning vulnerability affecting automotive fleet management systems and the uphill battle to patch the flaw.
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Dec 7, 2023 • 46min

Iranian attacks on U.S. water systems and the data broker economy

To be a person in the world today is to have your data collected. Whether it’s your internet browsing history, your location history as you walk around with your phone in your pocket, or the purchases you make online, there’s few human activities today that aren’t in one way or another tracked. So what happens with all that data once it’s collected? Increasingly, it’s bundled with other data and sold as part of large data sets by firms in the data broker industry. Justin Sherman, a senior fellow at Duke University’s Sanford School of Public Policy, has done groundbreaking work to understand this industry, and he sits down with host Elias Groll to talk about how personal data is being bought and sold. CyberScoop reporter Christian Vasquez also joins the show to discuss Iranian attacks on U.S. water systems.
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Nov 30, 2023 • 31min

Supercomputers for AI and the proliferation of commercial spyware

A growing industry exists today that provides governments with highly advanced tools to surveil their opponents. While this industry has become personified by Israel’s NSO Group, it in fact goes far beyond this one firm. The commercial spyware industry is growing rapidly, posing major human rights concerns and exposing dissidents, journalists and members of civil society to highly intrusive surveillance. Rasha Abdul Rahim leads Amnesty Tech, an organization that is on the front lines of documenting how spyware is being abused, and sits down with host Elias Groll to discuss her work. FedScoop reporter Rebecca Heilweil also joins the show to discuss how the U.S. government hopes its supercomputers can be put to work in the AI revolution.
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Nov 16, 2023 • 46min

A deep dive on cyberpsychology and a look at autonomy in the U.S. military

Just as behavioral psychology revolutionized economics by integrating human behavior into the study of financial decisions — creating the field of behavioral economics — the study of cyberpsychology tries to put the human being at the center of conversations about cybersecurity. Dr. Mary Aiken is one of its foremost practitioners and also happens to be the inspiration for Patricia Arquette’s character in “CSI: Cyber.” She sits down with host Elias Groll to discuss the emerging discipline of cyberpsychology. DefenseScoop reporter Brandi Vincent also joins the show to discuss how the U.S. military is thinking about autonomy.
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Nov 9, 2023 • 36min

Russian cyberattack cut power in Ukraine, Michigan secretary of state talks election security

Russia’s cyberattacks against Ukraine’s electrical grid occupy a canonical place in the history of cyber warfare. By turning out the lights in Ukraine in 2016 and 2017, Russia demonstrated the reach of digital weapons. Now researchers have revealed that Moscow’s hackers struck the Ukrainian grid in 2022. CyberScoop reporters AJ Vicens and Christian Vasquez join the show to discuss the implications of the Russian attack on Ukrainian critical infrastructure and what it reveals about how the Kremlin is using its hacking corps to shape the conflict. Michigan Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson also joins the show to discuss her efforts to keep elections safe, combat disinformation and the threat AI poses to American democracy.

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