
Safe Mode Podcast
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Apr 17, 2025 • 41min
Will Pearce on the ever-changing field of offensive AI security
In this episode, Greg talks with Will Pearce, CEO and Co-founder of Dreadnode about the rapidly evolving field of offensive AI security. Greg and Will discuss the unique challenges researchers face in testing AI models for vulnerabilities compared to traditional software, unveiling how adversarial attacks impact AI security and the ethical considerations at play. We also examine the role of regulatory frameworks and emerging threats, shedding light on how insights from offensive AI security can enhance human-AI interactions and elevate security standards across industries.
In our reporter chat, Greg talks with Matt Kapko on Ivanti’s issues with security in their network edge devices.

Apr 10, 2025 • 35min
Lior Div on how security teams should be using AI agents
In this episode, Greg talks with Lior Div, co-founder and CEO of 7AI. Lior and Greg explore how security teams are being reinforced with AI Agents and identify the areas where CISO are embracing this technological shift to optimize their talent resources. We'll also discuss the specific security functions these agents are performing, including email security, threat hunting, and other critical cybersecurity domains. Join us as we delve into the future of AI-augmented cybersecurity teams and the potential impact on the industry's ongoing battle against sophisticated cyber threats.
In our reporter chat, Greg talks with Derek Johnson about Google’s experimental LLM made for cybersecurity analysts.

Apr 2, 2025 • 33min
Ken Bagnall on how companies can work with governments to take down malicious infrastructure
In this episode, Greg Otto talks with Ken Bagnall, CEO of Silent Push Ken sheds light on the dynamics of the current cybercrime ecosystem. Ken reveals that a significant portion of the infrastructure is actually operated by affiliate networks using pre-existing technologies. During the discussion, Ken elaborates on how this ecosystem is fueled and examines the influential role played by affiliate groups, particularly those emerging from Africa and other developing countries. By offering these insights, the episode provides a fresh perspective on the often-overlooked aspects of global cybercrime operations.
In our reporter chat, Greg talks with Matt Kapko about the growing problem with remote IT workers from North Korea.

Mar 27, 2025 • 47min
Edera’s Alex Zenla on how to make cloud computing and AI secure-by-design
In this episode, Greg Otto talks with Edera co-founder and CTO Alex Zenla, charting her path from beginnings in Minecraft IRC channels to pioneering container isolation technology. Alex discusses her unique expertise in container security, GPU protection, and AI infrastructure, and how Edera is transforming the tech landscape with a commitment to balancing open-source benefits with robust security, setting new standards for cloud security's future.
In our reporter chat, Greg talks with Derek B. Johnson about a controversial executive order from Donald Trump that upends the way elections could be conducted in the future.

Mar 20, 2025 • 36min
Allie Bohan on how to handle the non-technical side of a ransomware attack
In this episode, Greg Otto talks with FTI Consulting’s Allie Bohan exploring the challenges organizations face in maintaining effective communication during cyberattacks. Allie and Greg uncover essential strategies for incidents, ensuring companies remain connected with stakeholders even when digital channels are compromised. We also talk on how to keep morale boosted within an organization during a time that many would consider one of the worst chapters in a business’s history.
In our reporter chat, Greg talks with Matt Kapko about who is sending those massively annoying scam text messages about unpaid toll violations.

Mar 12, 2025 • 39min
Discover’s Sunil Mallik on the ever-changing roles of the CISO
In this episode, Greg Otto talks with Sunil Mallik, the CISO of Discover Financial Services. Sunil shares his career path and the evolving challenges and responsibilities in cybersecurity, covering how he communicates with his board, strategic approaches to cybersecurity, and the importance of balancing technological investment with personnel training.
In our reporter chat, Greg talks with Tim Starks about Sean Plankey being nominated for CISA director.
Editor's Note: At 13:42, Mallik misspoke about his former employer. He was previously employed by Freddie Mac, not Fannie Mae.

Mar 6, 2025 • 29min
Chainguard’s Dan Lorenc on the next decade of software supply chain security
In this episode, Greg Otto talks with Dan Lorenc, CEO and co-founder of Chainguard. They explore the challenges organizations face with CVE management, where dealing with vulnerabilities often drains valuable engineering resources. They also discuss how new visualization tools are redefining this landscape by offering clear insights into CVE trends, empowering teams to make informed decisions and optimize both security and efficiency in their software development processes.
In our reporter chat, Greg talks with Matt Kapko about the United States’ indictment of China-linked hackers.

Feb 27, 2025 • 34min
Virtru’s John Ackerly on how the feds are keeping data secure and interoperable
In this episode, Greg Otto talks with Virtru Co-founder and CEO John Ackerly , discussing the significance of open standards, the challenges and successes of implementing the Trusted Data Format across federal agencies, and the critical role of interoperability and compliance. John also gives us details on how close the country was to a national privacy law before the 9/11 attacks upended everything
In our reporter chat, Greg talks with CyberScoop Tim Starks about a flurry of news around the Department of Homeland Security.

Feb 20, 2025 • 20min
FBI’s Cynthia Kaiser on Salt Typhoon’s ‘indiscriminate’ data collection
In this episode, you will hear Cynthia Kaiser, deputy assistant director in the bureau’s cyber division talk about the implications of the Salt Typhoon breach, which she spoke about during CyberScoop’s Zero Trust Summit. Kaiser characterized the breach as “a different level of insidiousness” from Beijing, one that reflects its “ambition and reckless aggression in cyberspace.”
In our reporter chat, Greg talks with CyberScoop’s new cybercrime reporter Matt Kapko about a slew of reports around Russian nation-state cyber actors.

Feb 13, 2025 • 33min
Chainalysis’ Jackie Burns-Koven on the drop in ransomware payments
Greg Otto talks with Jackie Burns-Koven, Head of Cyber Threat Intelligence at Chainalysis. They discuss research from Chainalysis that shows a 35% drop in ransom payments over the second half of 2024. They also discuss the growing refusal of victims to pay ransoms and how attackers are adapting their tactics. Additionally, she highlights the influence of Ransomware-as-a-Service, the evolution of data leak sites, and the effectiveness of international collaboration in combating these cyber threats.
In our reporter chat, Greg talks with Tim Starks about the Trump administration’s nominee for national cyber director.
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