
Truth Over Tribe: Christian Takes on Culture, News & Politics
Tired of the culture war? This is that podcast that’s too liberal for conservatives, too conservative for liberals. We seek to follow the lamb, not the donkey or elephant.
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Feb 15, 2023 • 1h 3min
How Extremism Threatens the Country (And the Church!) with Elizabeth Neumann
How would you define extremism? Elizabeth Neumann knows a thing or two about the subject after serving as a homeland security official during the Trump and George W. Bush administrations. During her time in this role, she witnessed extremism transform from something happening overseas to a domestic, online threat. On this week’s episode, she sits down with Patrick to define extremism and radicalization, identify the types of people vulnerable to radicalizing, and explain why extremist ideas also threaten the church. Plus, find out how she got involved with the Trump administration, why she left, and the troubling ways in which Trump’s character prompted potential threats. Most importantly, Elizabeth issues a challenge for Christians, noting that our hope must not be in America, but in the church itself. Listen now!Ok, truth time... Did you like this episode? Tell us by leaving a rating or review! 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟 If you did, you won't want to miss what's next (so subscribe now!). And help a friend by sharing this with them. Thank you! 🙏Plus, the conversation is just beginning! Follow us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram to join in on the dialogue! If you disagree with anything in this episode, we'd love to hear your thoughts here. Want to learn more about Truth Over Tribe? Visit our website and subscribe to our weekly newsletter.Want more truth over tribe? Check out our resources!ResourcesThe Effect of President Trump’s Election on Hate Crimes Hate Crimes in US Reach Highest Level In More Than A DecadeEl Paso Shooting Suspect’s Manifesto Echos Trump’s Language ‘No Blame?’ ABC News Finds 54 Cases Invoking ‘Trump’ In Connection With Violence, Threats, Alleged Assaults Playing the Political Long Game with David French

Feb 9, 2023 • 1h 28min
Should Christianity Today Stop Emphasizing Church Scandals? with CT President, Tim Dalrymple
Christianity Today capped off 2022 by releasing its Top-20 news stories of the year based on readership. The vast majority of these stories focused on scandals within the church. In response, our own Patrick Miller took to Twitter to critique the media organization’s focus on negative scandals, which inevitably bring harm to the local church. Christianity Today President, Tim Dalrymple, along with other CT reporters, graciously pushed back on Patrick’s analysis. And today, Patrick and Tim continue that conversation here on the pod! You’ll hear Tim address some tough questions: Are digital incentive structures and targeted advertising bad tactics for Christian media organizations to utilize? How does Christianity Today guard against insights driving editorial decision-making? Has CT made a shift in its frequency of covering church scandals and abuse? Ultimately, Tim explains that CT’s increase in these types of stories comes out of love for the church and is reflective of the current cultural conversation. Listen now!Ok, truth time... Did you like this episode? Tell us by leaving a rating or review! 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟 If you did, you won't want to miss what's next (so subscribe now!). And help a friend by sharing this with them. Thank you! 🙏Plus, the conversation is just beginning! Follow us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram to join in on the dialogue! If you disagree with anything in this episode, we'd love to hear your thoughts here. Want to learn more about Truth Over Tribe? Visit our website and subscribe to our weekly newsletter.Want more truth over tribe? Check out our resources!ResourcesRead CT’s Top 20 Stories of 2022

Feb 8, 2023 • 48min
Should Christians Play Video Games? with Reagan Rose
There’s always been a stigma associated with video games, particularly in the Christian community. Do video games lead to violence? Is gaming childish? Are video games a complete waste of time? Today, Patrick and Reagan Rose, author of Redeeming Productivity, dissect these questions and rethink gaming from a Christian lens. Hear Patrick and Reagan share on their own experiences with gaming, dissecting the deeper meaning to the feeling of overcoming obstacles that’s achievable in video games. Plus, what’s so different about being addicted to video games versus TV, movies, reading, and other forms of entertainment? What are some examples of having healthy relationships with gaming? How can parents better relate to their kids who play video games? No matter your own experience with video games (or lack thereof), we hope this episode opens up a broader discussion around how Christians approach the world of gaming. Listen now!Ok, truth time... Did you like this episode? Tell us by leaving a rating or review! 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟 If you did, you won't want to miss what's next (so subscribe now!). And help a friend by sharing this with them. Thank you! 🙏Plus, the conversation is just beginning! Follow us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram to join in on the dialogue! If you disagree with anything in this episode, we'd love to hear your thoughts here. Want to learn more about Truth Over Tribe? Visit our website and subscribe to our weekly newsletter.Want more truth over tribe? Check out our resources!ResourcesBuy the Redeeming Productivity BookThe Master’s Seminary Blog

Feb 3, 2023 • 40min
God Save the Spare: What Prince Harry’s Book Reveals About Today’s Culture
Here’s a BONUS episode since we had a little “spare” time on our hands! And by that, we mean that Keith and Patrick just read Prince Harry’s new book, Spare, and are spilling the royal-tea. ☕️ But this isn’t your typical book review. Nobody’s taking a side: They’re not loyal to the royals (or to Harry!). This episode dives much deeper into what Harry’s confessions reveal about today’s culture and “the spirit of the age.” Drawing comparisons between Prince Harry and his grandmother, Queen Elizabeth II, Keith and Patrick explain the generational differences in their stances on institutions. They ultimately conclude that Harry’s posture is an allegory for the dilemma that our current culture faces: Do we view tradition as a launching ground or as a statue that must be toppled? Should we fight back against “toxic” institutions that confine us, or should we submit to something greater than ourselves? And what about Christians: should they seek to tear down institutions or rebuild them? Hear as Keith and Patrick make the case that, despite Harry’s conclusions, embracing life as the “spare” may actually be the better way. Listen now!Ok, truth time... Did you like this episode? Tell us by leaving a rating or review! 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟 If you did, you won't want to miss what's next (so subscribe now!). And help a friend by sharing this with them. Thank you! 🙏Plus, the conversation is just beginning! Follow us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram to join in on the dialogue! If you disagree with anything in this episode, we'd love to hear your thoughts here. Want to learn more about Truth Over Tribe? Visit our website and subscribe to our weekly newsletter.Want more truth over tribe? Check out our resources!ResourcesRead Patrick’s Review on The Spare Buy Spare by Prince Harry Listen to TOT Episode “O Say, Can You Meritocracy?” Listen to TOT Episode “Should We Trust Our Institutions?” with Yuval Levin

Feb 1, 2023 • 50min
Is Jackie Hill Perry Comfortable Being a Celebrity Christian?
This week, Jackie Hill Perry joins us on the pod! And really, that’s probably all we need to say to convince you to listen. But in case you’ve been living under a rock, Jackie is a speaker, a poet, a hip-hop artist, the author of Gay Girl, Good God, and most recently, the author of Holier Than Thou. On this episode, Jackie sits down with Keith, and honestly, you may have a hard time keeping up with the wealth of wisdom she drops. Listen as the two discuss a wide range of topics: What’s encouraging (and discouraging) to her about the church right now? Is she into politics at all? Why did she leave Twitter (but not Instagram)? Why do black and white Christians vote so differently? Did her homosexual desires change when she came to faith? How does she feel about her celebrity Christian status? Why did she recently renounce the enneagram? What’s her parenting style and how will she handle it if her kids wander away from the faith? Trust us: You just 👏 can’t 👏 miss this one!Ok, truth time... Did you like this episode? Tell us by leaving a rating or review! 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟 If you did, you won't want to miss what's next (so subscribe now!). And help a friend by sharing this with them. Thank you! 🙏Plus, the conversation is just beginning! Follow us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram to join in on the dialogue! If you disagree with anything in this episode, we'd love to hear your thoughts here. Want to learn more about Truth Over Tribe? Visit our website and subscribe to our weekly newsletter.Want more truth over tribe? Check out our resources!ResourcesBuy Holier Than Thou Buy Gay Girl, Good God

Jan 25, 2023 • 60min
Jesus Cares About Politics (And You Should Too!) with Patrick Schreiner
Tired of of talking politics? You’re not alone. Patrick Schreiner is sympathetic to this, but he also believes that for Christians, engaging in politics is a must. Why? Because the Gospel shows us that Jesus himself has a politic. But what does that mean exactly? Find out when our own Patrick sits down with Patrick Schreiner, author of Political Gospel, to discuss. If Jesus was political, was he also partisan? What language do we assume to be religious that’s actually derived from politics? Should Christians submit to governing authorities or subvert them? And how do movements like Christian nationalism take this idea too far? At the end of the day, Christians can’t separate themselves from politics if they choose to truly follow the example of Jesus. Listen now!Ok, truth time... Did you like this episode? Tell us by leaving a rating or review! 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟 If you did, you won't want to miss what's next (so subscribe now!). And help a friend by sharing this with them. Thank you! 🙏Plus, the conversation is just beginning! Follow us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram to join in on the dialogue! If you disagree with anything in this episode, we'd love to hear your thoughts here. Want to learn more about Truth Over Tribe? Visit our website and subscribe to our weekly newsletter.Want more truth over tribe? Check out our resources!ResourcesBuy the Political Gospel BookBuy the Kingdom of God and the Glory of the Cross Book

Jan 18, 2023 • 48min
Are We All Narcissists? with Chuck DeGroat
Everybody thinks they know a narcissist, but what if you’re one too? What if, deep down, we all have a bit of narcissism in us? It’s easy to throw the term around and try to diagnose others, but what is a true narcissist? That’s what we cover on this episode of Truth Over Tribe when Patrick sits down with Chuck DeGroat. Chuck is a Professor of Counseling and Christian Spirituality at Western Theological Seminary in Holland, Michigan. He’s also a licensed therapist and author of the recent book, “When Narcissism Comes to Church.” Listen as he provides a true definition of narcissism, distinguishing between grandiose and vulnerable forms of narcissism. Plus, if narcissism is on a spectrum, are we all a bit of a narcissist after all? And how does your enneagram type correlate with narcissistic tendencies? Plus, what are the damages of narcissistic church leaders and what does he hope changes in evangelicalism over the next decade? Listen now!Ok, truth time... Did you like this episode? Tell us by leaving a rating or review! 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟 If you did, you won't want to miss what's next (so subscribe now!). And help a friend by sharing this with them. Thank you! 🙏Plus, the conversation is just beginning! Follow us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram to join in on the dialogue! If you disagree with anything in this episode, we'd love to hear your thoughts here. Want to learn more about Truth Over Tribe? Visit our website and subscribe to our weekly newsletter.Want more truth over tribe? Check out our resources!ResourcesBuy the When Narcissism Comes to Church BookBuy the Falling into Goodness Book

Jan 11, 2023 • 1h 10min
The (Un)Definition of Marriage: A Response to Matt Walsh and Joe Rogan
Marriage is what brings us together today. On this episode of Truth Over Tribe, Keith and Patrick respond to Joe Rogan’s recent interview with The Daily Wire’s Matt Walsh in which the two discussed the significance (or insignificance) of marriage. According to Rogan, marriage is all about self-expression and personal happiness. In this view, the government is merely involved for validation purposes. So, why shouldn’t gay couples be allowed to label themselves as married just like heterosexuals? Keith and Patrick dissect this, labeling this redefinition of marriage as more of an un-definition, which ultimately makes the institution of marriage meaningless in the end. Where Walsh let Rogan off the hook, Keith and Patrick push back harder. Hear as they discuss the problems with the outlier arguments used by Rogan, the role of procreation in marriage and issues like infertility, and how heterosexuals are responsible for weakening the argument of traditional marriage through slippery divorce views. While their argument has nothing to do with discrimination, it has everything to do with the fact that what Rogan advocated for simply isn’t “marriage” after all. Listen now!Ok, truth time... Did you like this episode? Tell us by leaving a rating or review! 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟 If you did, you won't want to miss what's next (so subscribe now!). And help a friend by sharing this with them. Thank you! 🙏Plus, the conversation is just beginning! Follow us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram to join in on the dialogue! If you disagree with anything in this episode, we'd love to hear your thoughts here. Want to learn more about Truth Over Tribe? Visit our website and subscribe to our weekly newsletter.Want more truth over tribe? Check out our resources!ResourcesListen to The Joe Rogan Experience with Matt Walsh

Jan 4, 2023 • 49min
Is the Transgender Movement Erasing Women? with Kara Dansky
Kara Dansky doesn’t even like to use the word, transgender. As a matter of fact, every time she says it out loud, she uses air quotes. As a self-proclaimed “radical feminist” and a lifelong Democrat, this may come as a surprise to those on her side of the political aisle. But in her book, The Abolition of Sex, Kara outlines how the trans agenda actually harms women and girls. Today, she sits down with Keith to dive deeper into the topic. Hear her explain why the definition of a woman has become so controversial, why she refuses to use others’ pronouns, and why progressive society is actually more regressive when it comes to this issue. Plus, she touches on the division this has caused in the LGBTQ+ community, explains the growth of the de-transitioning movement, and uses comparisons to anorexia to expose the underlying, monetary motive behind the transgender agenda. Listen now!Ok, truth time... Did you like this episode? Tell us by leaving a rating or review! 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟 If you did, you won't want to miss what's next (so subscribe now!). And help a friend by sharing this with them. Thank you! 🙏Plus, the conversation is just beginning! Follow us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram to join in on the dialogue! If you disagree with anything in this episode, we'd love to hear your thoughts here. Want to learn more about Truth Over Tribe? Visit our website and subscribe to our weekly newsletter.Want more truth over tribe? Check out our resources!ResourcesBuy the Abolition of Sex Book

Dec 28, 2022 • 52min
Good Christian Media Does Exist! with The Chosen’s Derral Eves
Can we agree that most Christian media is just… bad? But if you’ve seen The Chosen, you know it’s one major exception! Today, Patrick talks with Derral Eves, executive producer of The Chosen, the first multi-season series about Jesus’s ministry. Hear Derral share why he believes the show has been so well received among diverse audiences, detail some behind-the-scenes controversy and feedback from viewers, and explain the goals and results of the show’s marketing campaign: #thechosensux. Plus, not only is Derral a producer, he’s also one of the world’s top YouTube and online video marketing experts. Listen as Derral explains the strengths and weaknesses of YouTube’s algorithm, shares opportunities for using this media platform for good, and issues a warning for parents whose kids are growing up in this New Media Age.Ok, truth time... Did you like this episode? Tell us by leaving a rating or review! 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟 If you did, you won't want to miss what's next (so subscribe now!). And help a friend by sharing this with them. Thank you! 🙏Plus, the conversation is just beginning! Follow us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram to join in on the dialogue! If you disagree with anything in this episode, we'd love to hear your thoughts here. Want to learn more about Truth Over Tribe? Visit our website and subscribe to our weekly newsletter.ResourcesBuy the Truth Over Tribe BookBonus Resources from the Book Subscribe to the TOT Newsletter Buy The YouTube Formula BookDerral Eves YouTubeWatch The Chosen
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