
The Aerospace Advantage
The Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies is proud to present The Aerospace Advantage, with Heather ”Lucky” Penney as the host. Every week, Lucky takes listeners into the world of aerospace power and help the audience understand what it takes to fly and fight in the sky, while also protecting America’s interests in space. Whether talking to top generals, standing on a flight line full of combat aircraft, looking at a rocket being prepared for launch, or hearing from those who have laid it all on the line in defense of the nation—this podcast will afford unprecedented access and insight into where the combat aerospace community is going and why.
Latest episodes

Sep 28, 2024 • 49min
Episode 203 - Expeditionary Airpower: It Takes the 621st Contingency Response Wing
Episode Summary:
In this episode, Heather “Lucky” Penney of the Mitchell Institute team chats with Colonel Jason Herring, commander of the 621st Contingency Response Wing about sustaining airpower at the edge.
Whether responding to a humanitarian disaster or facilitating distributed air operations via the ACE construct, success comes down to the airmen facilitating expeditionary operations. This demands special training, a can-do attitude, and the ability to navigate the unexpected when handling functions like quick-turn maintenance, airfield management, passenger and cargo movement, on-site command and control, force protection, and whatever else is required to sustain air operations in austere locations. Airpower is a fundamentally agile, dynamic force. That requires a highly skilled, team-oriented set of capabilities. Join us to learn more about contingency response airmen are at the heart of the effort.
Credits:
Host: Heather “Lucky” Penney, Senior Resident Fellow, The Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies
Producer: Shane Thin
Executive Producer: Douglas Birkey
Guest: Col Jason Herring, Commander, 621st Contingency Response Wing (CRW)
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Sep 21, 2024 • 1h 5min
Episode 202 - Ensuring the Asymmetric Advantage: Jet Propulsion
Heather “Lucky” Penney is joined by Dr. Michael Gregg, Director at AFRL, and Chris Flynn, VP of Military Development at Pratt & Whitney. They dive into the critical role of jet propulsion and America's historical dominance in military jet engine technology. The conversation highlights the collaborative efforts between government and industry, the evolution from turbojets to modern turbofans, and the strategic transition to next-generation engines. They also discuss the challenges of integrating innovations while addressing modern combat requirements.

Sep 14, 2024 • 55min
Episode 201 - Shoot to Kill: The Day America Launched an ASAT
In episode 201 of the Aerospace Advantage, Shoot to Kill: The Day America Launched an ASAT, members of the Mitchell Institute team chat with Maj Gen Doug Pearson, USAF (Ret.), the pilot who took “the shot” and directed the F-15 Anti-Satellite Combined Test Force, and Col Jack Anthony, USAF (Ret.), the Operations Officer at Cheyenne Mountain about this incredibly historic mission.
At the height of the Cold War, the United States Air Force demonstrated the ability to shoot down a satellite in Low Earth Orbit from an F-15 fighter aircraft. While this did not result in a fielded capability, the lessons related to technology, planning, coordination, and operational execution offer valuable insight into future cross-domain operations. Plus, the context of the Cold War has remarkable parallels to the challenges the United States and its allies must confront in Great Power Competition. In this conversation, we explore this key history with two figures integral to the program's success.
Credits:
Host: Douglas Birkey, Executive Director, The Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies
Producer: Shane Thin
Executive Producer: Douglas Birkey
Guest: Maj Gen Doug Pearson, USAF (Ret.)
Guest: Col Jack Anthony, USAF (Ret.)
Guest: Charles Galbreath, Senior Fellow for Spacepower Studies, The Mitchell Institute Spacepower Advantage Center of Excellence (MI-SPACE)
Guest: Jennifer Reeves, Senior Fellow for Spacepower Studies, The Mitchell Institute Spacepower Advantage Center of Excellence (MI-SPACE)

Sep 7, 2024 • 59min
Episode 200 – Spacepower Roles and Missions Debate, Washington Update, and EA-37B Hits the Ramp: The Rendezvous
Episode Summary:
In episode 200 of the Aerospace Advantage, Spacepower Roles and Missions Debate, Washington Update, and EA-37B Hits the Ramp: The Rendezvous, Heather “Lucky” Penney chats with members of the Mitchell Institute team about the latest defense news from the Beltway and the broader national security community.
It’s September and D.C. is back in action. We explore what’s next for the defense bills in Congress, a debate that is playing out regarding spacepower roles and missions between the services, and the Secretary of the Air Force’s direct appeal for more Space Force funding. We also discuss why it’s such a big deal that the Air Force just accepted its first EA-37B Compass Call aircraft and whether there will be any long-term ripple effects given the F-16 loss in Ukraine. We wrap by discussing Chief of Staff of the Air Force Gen David Allvin’s frank remarks about the need for increased attention for airbase defense and we also consider what the results of the Presidential election might mean for defense spending.
These are significant issues, so join us to learn more!
Credits:
Host: Heather “Lucky” Penney, Senior Resident Fellow, The Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies
Producer: Shane Thin
Executive Producer: Douglas Birkey
Guest: Lt Gen David A. Deptula, USAF (Ret.), Dean, The Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies
Guest: Charles Galbreath, Senior Fellow for Spacepower Studies, The Mitchell Institute Spacepower Advantage Center of Excellence (MI-SPACE)
Guest: Todd “Sledge” Harmer, Senior Vice President, American Defense International
Guest: Jeff Rowlison, VP, Space & Intel Programs, American Defense International
Guest: Anthony “Lazer” Lazarski, Principal, Cornerstone Government Affairs
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Aug 31, 2024 • 1h 1min
Episode 199 – Winning Tomorrow’s Fight: Airpower Must Maximize Electronic Attack
Episode Summary:
In episode 199 of the Aerospace Advantage, Winning Tomorrow’s Fight: Airpower Must Maximize Electronic Attack, Heather “Lucky” Penney chats with long-time F-35 pilot and 188th Wing commander Col Jay Spohn, Josh Niedzwiecki of BAE, and 350th Spectrum Warfare Wing commander Col Larry Fenner Jr. about this key aspect of warfighting.
For too long, individuals regarded electronic attack as a bolt-on effect—an afterthought. Traditional forms of kinetic combat airpower—things like missiles and bombs— dominated capability development, integration, and execution efforts. However, given the nature of the modern threat environment, it is clear that electronic attack will be crucial for both projecting power and helping ensure the survival of the force. This requires a holistic approach to integrating electronic magnetic spectrum operations (EMSO) with traditional airpower assets like fighters and bombers
The F-35, as a 5th generation information-centric aircraft, stands uniquely situated in this realm. It was designed from day one to maximize EMSO functions. Its sensors, processing capability, ability to integrate offboard inputs, and ability to derive electronic attack effects from a number of onboard technologies that will help U.S pilots meet the challenges of tomorrow’s battlespace. But maximizing the potential designed in the F-35 demands approaching EMSO in a whole new way. We explore this topic with leaders who develop the technology, innovate on the warfighting edge, and execute the missions.
Credits:
Host: Heather “Lucky” Penney, Senior Resident Fellow, The Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies
Producer: Shane Thin
Executive Producer: Douglas Birkey
Guest: Col Larry Fenner Jr., Commander, 350th Spectrum Warfare Wing
Guest: Joshua Niedzwiecki, Vice President & General Manager, Electronic Combat Solutions, BAE Systems
Guest: Col Jay "Evil" Spohn, Commander, 188th Wing
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Aug 24, 2024 • 1h 4min
Episode 198 – Want to Fight and Win? Air and Space Integration is Key
Heather "Lucky" Penney, a key aerospace thinker, is joined by Robert Lightfoot, president of Lockheed Martin Space; Greg Ulmer, president of Lockheed Martin Aeronautics; and Charles Galbreath from the Mitchell Institute. They discuss the strategic shift from airborne to space-based intelligence and reconnaissance, emphasizing the need for integrated air and space operations to maintain military effectiveness against modern threats. The conversation covers historical advancements, autonomous technologies, and the importance of resilient, multi-domain strategies in ensuring mission success.

Aug 17, 2024 • 46min
Episode 197 – Mission Command: Leveraging the American Cognitive Advantage
Episode Summary:
In episode 197 of the Aerospace Advantage, Mission Command: Leveraging the American Cognitive Advantage, Heather “Lucky” Penney chats with Lt Col Fritz “Plugger” Glojek, recent fellow at the Mitchell Institute, and Lt Col Nicholas “Badger” Underwood of Air University’s LeMay Center about how we can best empower Airmen to fly and fight.
Conflict in the Western Pacific will challenge US Command and Control. Despite significant effort and progress with efforts like Combined Joint All-Domain Command and Control and the Advanced Battle Management System, China will exploit the electromagnetic spectrum to contest, degrade, and deny communication. Mission Command—a philosophy of leadership that empowers Airmen to operate in uncertain, complex, and rapidly changing environments through trust, shared awareness, and an understanding of commander’s intent—offers resilience to the physical command and control structure. Without a numerical advantage or a technological advantage, Americans will need to exploit their cognitive advantage and continue to make decisions when temporarily disconnected from their leaders. We discuss the necessity of mission command in a complex, dispersed, multi-domain fight in the Western Pacific.
Credits:
Host: Heather “Lucky” Penney, Senior Resident Fellow, The Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies
Producer: Shane Thin
Executive Producer: Douglas Birkey
Guest: Lt Col Fritz “Plugger” Glojek, Air Force Fellow, The Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies
Guest: Lt Col Nicholas “Badger” Underwood, LeMay Center for Doctrine Development and Education, Air University
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Aug 10, 2024 • 56min
Episode 196 – What’s Up With NGAD? Understanding The Stakes
Heather "Lucky" Penney, an expert on Air Force programs, dives into the recent pause of the Next Generation Air Dominance (NGAD) initiative. The discussion reveals how this decision affects air superiority and national security. With insights on integrating uncrewed aircraft and the importance of long-range strike capabilities, Penney and her fellow experts emphasize the urgent need for modernization in military strategy. They layout potential risks from adversaries like China and Russia, stressing that future air operations must adapt to ensure effective responses in evolving threats.

Aug 3, 2024 • 59min
Episode 195 – E-7 on Contract, Space Force Reorg, F-35 Deliveries Resume: The Rendezvous
Heather "Lucky" Penney, an expert in defense news and national security, shares insights into key developments in defense. She discusses the crucial role of the E-7 aircraft in modern combat and the challenges facing the Sentinel missile program amid geopolitical pressures. The F-35 deliveries have resumed despite criticism, and there's an urgent need to maintain air superiority with upgraded fleets. The conversation also highlights integration efforts within the Space Force and the importance of international partnerships, particularly with SpaceX, for enhanced capabilities.

Jul 27, 2024 • 53min
Episode 194 – Battlespace Connectivity: Key to 21st Century Warfighting
Episode Summary:
In episode 194 of the Aerospace Advantage, Battlespace Connectivity: Key to 21st Century Warfighting, host Heather “Lucky” Penney and Mitchell Senior Fellow J.V. Venable explore the topic of tactical networking with Galt Aerospace CEO John Kohut.
Bottom line: information sharing and data exchange are the key to combat success in future conflicts. Whether discussing concepts like Combined Joint All Domain Command and Control (CJADC2) or collaborative combat aircraft (CCA), there is a fundamental drive toward a far more connected force. The net effect will see individual assets in different geographic locations and domains collaborating to yield a net effect greater than their individual parts. But for that work, a variety of systems need to be able to talk.
In this episode we discuss the underlying concepts of operation that demand connectivity, explain the evolution of the associated technology, and discuss where we need to go from both a technical and operational set of perspectives. We talk about things like long-range kill chains all the time—join us in the episode to learn from experts with the operational and technical expertise to figure out how these systems-of-systems actually work and why they matter.
Credits:
Host: Heather “Lucky” Penney, Senior Resident Fellow, The Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies
Producer: Shane Thin
Executive Producer: Douglas Birkey
Guest: John Kohut, CEO, Galt Aerospace
Guest: J.V. Venable, Senior Resident Fellow, The Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies
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