

The No Film School Podcast
No Film School
A podcast about how to build a career in filmmaking. No Film School shares the latest opportunities and trends for anyone working in film and TV. We break news on cameras, lighting, and apps. We interview leaders in screenwriting, directing, cinematography, editing, and producing. And we answer your questions! We are dedicated to sharing knowledge with filmmakers around the globe, “no film school” required.
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Mar 3, 2023 • 52min
SXSW Preview: Should You Produce Your Festival Experience? Plus Interview with Director Ella Glendining
If you bring your full self to a festival, to a film, to any project, whilst helping others shine in the process, you will find your place in this industry.In this episode, GG Hawkins speaks with director, Ella Glendining about her feature film, Is There Anybody Out There? She also speaks with cinematographers Lauretta Prevost and Laura Valladao on recent Sundance films they worked on.We discuss:
Being a vehicle for communicating your passion
Feeling self conscious about filming oneself everyday for a documentary film
The surreal experience of having a film premiere at Sundance
Accessibility, open captioning and inclusive viewing experiences at the festival
Prioritizing everyone’s comfort in the making of a film
Figuring out how to shoot and edit a purely black and white film
Limiting air flow on set during Covid
Experiences working with nonactors
How emerging filmmakers should approach attending film festivals
Memorable Quotes
“I think anybody who’s ever felt other or left out or discriminated against, hopefully will be able to take something very powerful from the film.” [11:23]
“I didn’t really notice I was making a feature until I was in the editing suite.” [19:10]
“You must, must, must stick to your gut. Like if you absolutely know something is right, then it is.” [22:46]
“Texture is so important in black in white because you don’t have color information to help you understand the space and the depth.” [33:14]
“It’s the first time I’ve really felt like an adult here…I feel like a grown up.” [38:56]
Resources:Find Ella on InstagramFind Laura on InstagramLaura’s websiteFind Lauretta on InstagramLauretta’s websiteFind No Film School everywhere:On the Webhttps://nofilmschool.com/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/nofilmschoolTwitter https://twitter.com/nofilmschoolYouTube https://www.youtube.com/user/nofilmschoolInstagramhttps://www.instagram.com/nofilmschoolGet your questions answered on the podcast by emailing editor@nofilmschool.com! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mar 2, 2023 • 53min
Do We Miss Development Hell? Plus, The Last of Us
In today’s episode, we discuss storytelling in both the show and video game adaptation of The Last of Us.Also, we talk about Warner Bros suing South Park and how it speaks to the frustrations creatives are experiencing in the industry. In today’s episode, No Film School’s Charles Haine, Jason Hellerman and GG Hawkins discuss:
The things we wanted to see in a flashback episode of The Last of Us
Expecting to see more sophisticated and interesting video game adaptations in the future
Good actors versus bad actors in regards to legal contracts
The after effects of a change in studio ownership
How frustrating Hollywood is for a lot of creatives
Why development is still so important
Memorable Quotes
“The more you do this filmmaking thing, the more empathy you have with people struggling with these challenges.” [11:50]
“The problem with all flashbacks is we know what happens after.” [16:33]
“Create a writing profession where breaking in doesn’t cost you ten years of your life and you get paid no money.” [37:10]
Resources:The Last of Us ShowThe Last of Us GameSouth Park lawsuitFind No Film School everywhere:On the Webhttps://nofilmschool.com/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/nofilmschoolTwitter https://twitter.com/nofilmschoolYouTube https://www.youtube.com/user/nofilmschoolInstagramhttps://www.instagram.com/nofilmschoolGet your questions answered on the podcast by emailing editor@nofilmschool.com! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Feb 24, 2023 • 56min
"The Banshees of Inisherin" Editor Mikkel E.G. Nielsen on Making Films Come Full Circle
Today’s guest is award winning editor, Mikkel E.G. Nielsen. Mikkel is an editor and director known for films such as Sound of Metal, Beasts of No Nation, and most recently, The Banshees of Inisherin. Mikkel shares what he appreciates most about being a film editor.In this episode, we discuss…
What Mikkel appreciates the most from his time in film school in Denmark
Realizing you can treat material in many different ways
Remaining as objective and open as possible, especially in the initial stages of the process
Loving and honoring the collaborative process of editing a film
Why “less is more” sometimes
How finding balance and simplicity lends to a more powerful film
Helping the director make the best possible version of their intention
Memorable Quotes
“Editing has always been about experimenting and trying to see if there’s new ways to do certain things and to treat material in different ways.” [5:12]
“On a first pass you never ever touch anything from the script.” [15:15]
“There are so many things that are possible with so little material.” [18:14]
“We have a tendency in editing especially, to make things complicated.” [35:17]
“The film is not my baby. I’m helping someone and I always see it like that.” [41:43]
Resources:Aqua Music Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQPS5J9_GNwWalter Murch https://nofilmschool.com/podcast-legendary-walter-murch-editingAlison O’Daniel and the Tuba Thieves https://nofilmschool.com/the-tuba-thieves2023 Sundance Post Round Table https://nofilmschool.com/editors-and-post-sound-have-crush-each-others-workFind No Film School everywhere:On the Webhttps://nofilmschool.com/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/nofilmschoolTwitter https://twitter.com/nofilmschoolYouTube https://www.youtube.com/user/nofilmschoolInstagramhttps://www.instagram.com/nofilmschoolGet your questions answered on the podcast by emailing editor@nofilmschool.com! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Feb 23, 2023 • 50min
Do We Need AI to Cry? Plus, the Future of Red.
In today’s episode, we discuss whether or not editors should be allowed to digitally manipulate performances. Also, we talk about the changes RED is making and what cameras they will no longer offer. In this episode, we talk about…
Milkshake ducking and why we are afraid of it
Protecting the performance element of an actor’s work
What editors need to consider before making artificial changes to an actor’s performance
A recent announcement from RED that has left many camera owners disappointed
Our experiences shooting on RED cameras
How to approach working with non-actors
Memorable Quotes
“The thing that AI is very good at doing is changing a facial expression.” [7:04]
“We’re living in this world of contrived filters and I don’t want us to move too much further into that….we need to protect the humanity.” [9:15]
“We’re watching civilizational standards shift.” [10:35]
MentionedRED Camera Announcement Keanu Reeves Warns Us About the Dangers of AI Editing ActorsET Audition TapeFind No Film School everywhere:On the Webhttps://nofilmschool.com/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/nofilmschoolTwitter https://twitter.com/nofilmschoolYouTube https://www.youtube.com/user/nofilmschoolInstagramhttps://www.instagram.com/nofilmschoolGet your questions answered on the podcast by emailing editor@nofilmschool.com! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Feb 17, 2023 • 57min
Nailing the LOL with Women Write Now’s Sundance Fellows
Hours before their Sundance premieres, we spoke with the writing fellows of Women Write Now, Hartbeat’s annual comedic screenwriting fellowship for Black women in partnership with the Sundance Institute. In addition to having the three writing fellows on, we were also joined by Hartbeat’s Head of Film, Candice Wilson-Cherry, who takes us through how the program is designed to directly address the lack of BIPOC women in leadership positions like showrunners and in writers' rooms. We also were joined by Hey Boo director Logan Browning who you might know from The Perfection and Dear White People. And in addition to diving into the art of comedy, we also dig into the art of directing for comedy. All of these shorts are directed by actors — the other two being Tika Sumpter and Nicole Byer.In this episode, we discuss…
How the Women Write Now program is filling a void in the writing space
Their process for finding writiers and directors for the program
The development process of each of the shorts
Fitting the script into only 10 pages
Having to adjust things for the budgets
Finding mentors who would guide fellows in nurturing yet realistic ways
Doing table reads versus chemistry reads
Letting go of control by trusting actors
Hitting deadlines so you don’t hold up production
Memorable Quotes
“It’s really important that all of our films, tv shows, and formats are all reflective of the world.” [3:28]
“That was really nice, sort of discovering a different layer and different element to the story.” [9:56]
“They have helped me walk into a door that was closed.” [14:03]
“Make sure your actors get to be free and play.” [22:28]
“Write, write, write. You only become good, by just doing it.” [34:32]
“If you feel like you are a writer to your core, don’t be afraid to say it and don’t be afraid to tell people.” [41:03]
Mentioned:https://womenwritenow.com/The Real Hartbeat on InstagramCandice Wilson Cherry (Producer of the films)Logan Browning (Hey Boo director)Danielle Solomon (Hey Boo writer)Mayanna Berrin (Power Dynamics writer)Kiana Butler (Night Off writer)Find No Film School everywhere:On the Webhttps://nofilmschool.com/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/nofilmschoolTwitter https://twitter.com/nofilmschoolYouTube https://www.youtube.com/user/nofilmschoolInstagramhttps://www.instagram.com/nofilmschoolGet your questions answered on the podcast by emailing editor@nofilmschool.com! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Feb 10, 2023 • 1h 3min
Editors and Post Sound Have a Crush on Each Other('s Work)
Continuing our Sundance coverage in episode 608 of the No Film School podcast, we sat down with editors and sound teams from films premiering at the festival. In addition to unpacking post production — the final and critical phase of filmmaking — we uncovered possibly the biggest work crushes in the film industry. In this conversation, you’ll hear from:
Emmy-winning editor, Taylor Mason - Editor for the psychological horror film Birth/Rebirth which premiered in the Midnight section on say one of Sundance. Mason’s previous work includes the Netflix mini-series Dahmer – Monster: The Jeffrey Dahmer Story, and Pose, as well as the variety show A Black Lady Sketch Show, for which Taylor and her team of editors became the first all-Black team to win a Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Picture Editing.
Jon Philpot - Editor for the mockumentary film Theater Camp. Jon previously worked on beloved comedy series like Hacks, Search Party, Broad City, and Awkwafina is Nora From Queens, and At Home With Amy Sedaris.
Mike James Gallagher and Anthony Vanchure - Part of the sound team on Onyx the Fortuitous and the Talisman, the pair also recently worked on the biopic Weird: The Al Yankovic Story, as well as Selena Gomez: My Mind & Me and their collaboration on the documentary Lucy and Desi earned the pair an Emmy nomination.
In this episode, we discuss…
Breaking story as an editor
The emotions of door sounds
Temp sound and editors hoping to impress the sound designers and vice-versa
Figuring out the most interesting way to keep people engaged
The great thing about low budget projects
Balancing the tone of a more dramatic story with moments of levity
The great combination of laughter and fear
How sound design can affect people psychologically
Why it's so fun for editors and sound designers to collaborate
Memorable Quotes
“Is this a scene? Is this supposed to be entertaining? What does this have to do with anything?” [16:14]
“I wanna do a great job. I wanna do that on every project I work on. You don’t just want to half ass it.” [21:38]
“The idea of mixing comedy and horror together is phenomenal.” [31:00]
“I love working with editors that take sound seriously.” [41:35]
Mentioned:Taylor Mason InstagramJon Philpot InstagramMike James Gallagher Instagram, website and sound design deconstructionsAnthony Vanchure InstagramFind No Film School everywhere:On the Webhttps://nofilmschool.com/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/nofilmschoolTwitter https://twitter.com/nofilmschoolYouTube https://www.youtube.com/user/nofilmschoolInstagramhttps://www.instagram.com/nofilmschoolGet your questions answered on the podcast by emailing editor@nofilmschool.com! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Feb 9, 2023 • 1h 1min
How to Deal with Agents, Managers, and Breaking Up with Collaborators
In this episode, we talk about considering the advice of others, while still being the architect of your own destiny. Also, we chat about maintaining healthy relationships with collaborators and the importance of clear communication.In this episode, we talk about…
Our experiences with agencies and the important lessons we learned
Discussing the myths of management
Trusting your instincts and following your “why”
Why you need reps that truly believe in you and what you are doing
Not working with the same people on all your projects
Breaking out of the box people put you in
Avoiding relationship rifts and how to handle it when it happens
Memorable Quotes
“People in that business burn out fast. They burn bright and they burn fast and they burn bridges.” [7:28]
“You gotta do some internal housekeeping and soul searching.” [9:30]
“You are there to evaluate them as much as they are there to evaluate you.” [15:22]
“When we present ourselves with too many cerebral options, we get lost.” [24:37]
Mentioned:Start With WhyFind No Film School everywhere:On the Webhttps://nofilmschool.com/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/nofilmschoolTwitter https://twitter.com/nofilmschoolYouTube https://www.youtube.com/user/nofilmschoolInstagramhttps://www.instagram.com/nofilmschoolGet your questions answered on the podcast by emailing editor@nofilmschool.com! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Feb 7, 2023 • 35min
Jason Woliner on Developing Filmmaking Stamina and Creative Confidence
Today’s guest is director, Jason Woliner. Jason is the director of Borat 2, Nathan For You, and the latest rule breaking show, Paul T. Goldman. We chat about pushing forward on your ideas, even when receiving constant rejection. In this episode, we talk about…
How comedy has evolved to include real people in real life situations
People thinking Paul’s story is completely fake and that he is just an actor
Allowing Paul to make decisions and follow his lead
Finally selling the show after getting over a hundred rejections
The role timing plays in getting projects made
Marveling at the decisions Paul’s mind made in writing the script
Memorable Quotes
“I feel like there’s been this shift where real life is just crazier and funnier than anything that is just purely written.” [3:28]
“The richness of life is so much weirder, funnier, more interesting than most written content.” [4:31]
“Yes, it’s unpolished and it sounds different, but it’s a real person expressing their version of their life.” [15:34]
“Most of my career has been spent trying and failing to get things made.” [23:22]
Mentioned:Paul T. GoldmanFind No Film School everywhere:On the Webhttps://nofilmschool.com/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/nofilmschoolTwitter https://twitter.com/nofilmschoolYouTube https://www.youtube.com/user/nofilmschoolInstagramhttps://www.instagram.com/nofilmschoolGet your questions answered on the podcast by emailing editor@nofilmschool.com! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Feb 3, 2023 • 53min
For These DP's Connecting with Story and Storytellers Prevents Burnout
In today’s episode, we host a roundtable discussion with cinematographers of four different Sundance films. We chat about problem solving on set, collaborating with directors, creative lighting solutions, protecting your energy for the stories you love, and finding the silver lining in the less than ideal projects. In this episode, we talk about…
Four different Sundance films and what they are about
How these DP’s booked their jobs
Using a single camera versus two cameras
Implementing unique lighting techniques
Having longer takes with minimal camera movement
Working as a gaffer versus working as a DP
Finding the community you love and holding onto it
Recognizing the opportunity cost when you take a film just to shoot something
Memorable Quotes
“I feel like I have a connection to all these films because I’ve lived in New York, I have multigenerational family drama, I didn’t join a satanic cult, but I did go to theater camp.” [3:37]
“An intense amount of prep and being as prepared as possible with a detailed shot list, floor plans and photo boards.” [24:23]
“There is so much value in working on sets in other roles.” [43:13]
“You kill yourself for a movie and you don’t want to kill yourself for a bad one.” [46:08]
Mentioned:Nate Hurtsellers - Theater CampNate Hurtsellers InstagramDan Adlerstein - Onyx the Fortuitous and the Talisman of SoulsDan Adlerstein InstagramScott Miller - A Little PrayerScott Miller InstagramZach Kuperstein - Power SignalZach Kuperstein InstagramFind No Film School everywhere:On the Webhttps://nofilmschool.com/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/nofilmschoolTwitter https://twitter.com/nofilmschoolYouTube https://www.youtube.com/user/nofilmschoolInstagramhttps://www.instagram.com/nofilmschoolGet your questions answered on the podcast by emailing editor@nofilmschool.com! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jan 27, 2023 • 58min
Live From Sundance: Festival Favorites, Acquisitions, and the Good/Bad/Ugly of Networking
On today’s episode, No Film School founder Ryan Koo, writer Alyssa Miller, and podcast co-host GG Hawkins discuss their favorite aspects of Sundance 2023. They discuss the most impactful films they watched, the nature of networking at the festival, and the exciting film acquisitions that occurred. In this episode, we talk about…
Sundance films that we loved
Mutual exhaustion and excitement everyone experienced at Sundance
Understanding the currency of human emotion
How, without Sundance, it would be difficult for certain films to be made
Why you don't need a full scale production to make a brilliant film
Having to navigate relationships in the industry with a guard up
The value in making connections in such a concentrated amount of time
Multiple $20 million acquisitions for independent filmmakers
Memorable Quotes
“Diversity in emotion. The entirety of the human experience is found in this slate.” [1:32]
“The currency of human emotion…will probably be one of the hardest things for A.I. to define.” [10:20]
“Wow! Movies are so alive and well. Independent film is so alive and well.” [29:21]
“You really bond when you’re freezing.” [30:26]
“You are your own business as a filmmaker, and you have to be making these connections.” [37:50]
Find No Film School everywhere:On the Webhttps://nofilmschool.com/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/nofilmschoolTwitter https://twitter.com/nofilmschoolYouTube https://www.youtube.com/user/nofilmschoolInstagramhttps://www.instagram.com/nofilmschoolGet your questions answered on the podcast by emailing editor@nofilmschool.com! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices


