

The No Film School Podcast
No Film School
A podcast about how to build a career in filmmaking. No Film School shares the latest opportunities and trends for anyone working in film and TV. We break news on cameras, lighting, and apps. We interview leaders in screenwriting, directing, cinematography, editing, and producing. And we answer your questions! We are dedicated to sharing knowledge with filmmakers around the globe, “no film school” required.
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May 24, 2025 • 54min
A First-Timer’s Guide to the Cannes Film Festival
On this episode of the No Film School Podcast, GG Hawkins is reporting live from the 2025 Cannes Film Festival alongside a vibrant panel of first-time attendees. Filmmakers Stephen Cedars and Benji Kleiman, and producer Lexi Tannenholtz reflect on the chaos, surprises, and serendipity of navigating Cannes for the first time. From deciphering the market to running into unexpected industry contacts, they explore the overwhelming yet exhilarating world of one of the most prestigious film festivals in the world. This episode is packed with practical advice for emerging filmmakers hoping to make the most of a trip to Cannes.
In this episode, No Film School's GG Hawkins and guests discuss...
What it means to “have a movie” at Cannes and the nuances between screening, sales, and market presence
How the Cannes Film Festival is actually multiple events in one—red carpets, markets, pavilions, and more
The unique experience of The Marché du Film and what it teaches about global film distribution
Serendipitous encounters and the power of just showing up prepared and open to connection
The social dynamics of the festival and why dressing the part can be as important as showing up
Tips for navigating Cannes for first-timers—from parties to planning to staying present
The balance between networking and being respectful in professional interactions
Memorable Quotes:
"I feel like I've learned more in the last six days than I have in the last six years."
"Prepare yourself for good luck.”
"Don’t try to get an apple tree on day one of planting the seed."
"The festival is a celebration of art, but the market is all business."
Guests:
Stephen Cedars
Benji Kleiman
Lexi Tannenholtz
Resources:
Goodside: Affordable housing for filmmakers at major festivals
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May 23, 2025 • 47min
From Marcel to Stitch: Dean Fleischer Camp on Protecting Your Character’s Soul
Dean Fleischer Camp, the Oscar-nominated filmmaker behind Marcel the Shell with Shoes On, joins GG Hawkins on this episode of the No Film School Podcast to discuss his journey from indie auteur to directing Disney's live-action Lilo & Stitch. Camp delves into the emotional and technical challenges of maintaining character integrity, scaling up production, and bringing heart and authenticity to a beloved IP. From personal anecdotes about his early filmmaking days to deep dives into character animation and working with child actors, this episode is a must-listen for aspiring filmmakers and animation fans alike.
In this episode, No Film School's GG Hawkins and guest Dean Fleischer Camp discuss...
How Dean’s background in editing and indie filmmaking shaped his directorial approach
The creative transition from Marcel the Shell to Lilo & Stitch
Capturing the emotional depth and soul of Stitch in a live-action format
The importance of involving original creators in adaptations
Directing child actors and creating real interactions with animated characters
The casting and character development of Nani, Lilo's sister
Practical advice for emerging filmmakers navigating their first projects
Memorable Quotes:
“Even the most exacting director... gets like 30% of what they set out to get exactly in their mind’s eye.”
“You can feed the animated Stitch through the live-action machine... but if you don’t put any care into it, it actually has the opposite effect.”
“Don’t wait for permission to make something... That’s an order.”
Guest:
Dean Fleischer Camp
Mentioned in this episode:
Experience Camps
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May 8, 2025 • 1h 5min
Why Regional Films and Fests are Essential
In this episode of the No Film School Podcast, GG Hawkins and Jason Hellerman tackle breaking news, unpacking President Trump’s proposed 100% tariff on foreign-made films and what it could mean for the future of Hollywood. Then, GG takes us to the heart of indie filmmaking with a vibrant live conversation from Cinema Columbus, where filmmakers Michael Polk, Sam Dunning, and Kelsey Lea Jones share war stories, festival lessons, and the power of regional cinema in a shifting industry.
In this episode, No Film School's GG Hawkins, Jason Hellerman, and guests discuss...
The implications of Trump’s proposed 100% tariff on foreign film and TV productions
How international tax incentives affect where Hollywood makes movies
The economic and cultural risks of isolating American film audiences
The live indie filmmaking experience from Cinema Columbus
The production and festival journeys of “Canoe Dig It” and “Say As I Say”
Creative strategies for self-distribution and building regional audiences
How unexpected moments during indie shoots add authenticity and charm
Memorable Quotes:
"You don't need to jail artists to silence them. You just make their work impossible to afford."
"Let’s solve this problem with a real solution and not just with bluster."
"If you can't give indie filmmakers money, the most valuable other thing you can do is to rate and review our movies."
"We just don't want it to disappear… even if we don't make a dime."
Guests:
Michael Polk
Sam Dunning
Kelsey Lea Jones
Resources:
Canoe Dig it?
Say As I Say
No Film School: What Do Studio Heads Have to Say About The Hollywood Tariffs?
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May 1, 2025 • 35min
What We Lose If We Don’t Preserve Film
In this episode, GG Hawkins of No Film School sits down with Ben Roberts, Chief Executive of the British Film Institute (BFI), for a powerful conversation on the cultural and creative necessity of film preservation. As the BFI celebrates the 90th anniversary of its National Archive and launches its new BFI America initiative, Roberts shares deep insights into the archival process, global collaboration, and the evolving role of film as both art and artifact. From rediscovering rare prints to the vital importance of archiving even digital work, this episode offers an inspiring call to action for filmmakers and cinephiles alike.
In this episode, No Film School's GG Hawkins and guest Ben Roberts discuss...
Why film preservation matters more than ever in the digital age
The significance of BFI’s National Archive turning 90
Rare film prints like Jaws and Mildred Pierce hidden in BFI’s vaults
How the BFI selects films for restoration and the stories behind those choices
The launch of BFI America and its goals for international collaboration
Practical advice for emerging filmmakers attending international markets like Cannes or Berlin
Why preserving your own creative process is as important as the work itself
Memorable Quotes:
"The archive is full of treasures."
"Just make stuff, practice, practice, practice, without feeling like this is going to be your big break."
"Keep everything. Keep your emails, keep notes... One day when you're the greatest filmmaker on the planet, we will want it all."
"You’ve got to think about the global industry and the global culture, because to get stuff made, there are so many ways to collaborate internationally."
Resources:
BFI Player Classics
BFI.org.uk
Sight & Sound Magazine
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Apr 28, 2025 • 1h 17min
What It Takes to Make a First Feature
In this episode of the No Film School Podcast, GG Hawkins hosts a conversation with filmmakers Annapurna Sriram ("Fucktoys") and Alex Burunova ("Satisfaction"). Fresh from their South by Southwest premieres, they open up about the challenges and triumphs of making their first feature films independently. From the loneliness of directing to finding creative collaborators, the trio shares the real, raw experience of being “in the thick of it” during production and beyond.
In this episode, No Film School's GG Hawkins and guests discuss...
Why making a first feature feels like living on an island — literally and metaphorically
The emotional rollercoaster of independent filmmaking and the power of perseverance
The origins of "Fucktoys" and "Satisfaction," and how personal experiences inspired the films
Casting without “named talent” and the importance of authentic performances
How microbudget hacks, from thrift store shopping to strategic returns, kept productions alive
The importance of finding your “spiritual warriors” (aka collaborators who get it)
How to carry the lessons of your first feature into your next project
Memorable Quotes:
“If you can see all the heartbreak ahead, I don't know that anybody would climb the mountain.”
“You’re not the first person to deal with a catastrophe — every person deals with it.”
“Be a scout. Be a badass. Discover undiscovered talent.”
“The gap in the teeth leads to the heart. It’s all a map.”
Guests:
Annapurna Sriram (Director, Writer, Lead Actor of Fucktoys)
Alex Burunova (Director, Writer of Satisfaction)
Resources:
Fucktoys on Instagram: @fucktoysthemovie
Satisfaction on Instagram: @satisfactionfilm
I Really Love My Husband on Instagram: @ireallylovemyhusbandmovie
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Apr 24, 2025 • 57min
Studio Strategy & Indie Grit in the Wake of ‘Sinners’
In this two-part episode of the No Film School Podcast, hosts GG Hawkins and Jason Hellerman dive into the success of Ryan Coogler’s new original film Sinners, a box office hit that marks a significant moment for original storytelling in Hollywood. They explore Coogler’s strategic career trajectory from shorts to studio features, examining what emerging filmmakers can learn from his path. Later in the episode, GG takes us back to the 2022 Sundance Film Festival with an interview featuring director Sing J. Lee. They discuss his debut feature, The Accidental Getaway Driver, and the deeply personal journey behind its creation, from a 10-year music video career to a rapid eight-week co-writing process, and the film’s intimate portrayal of cultural duality and human connection.In this episode we discuss...
The box office and cultural impact of Ryan Coogler’s Sinners
Coogler’s path from indie shorts to studio blockbusters
The importance of building a team and sustaining collaborations
Crafting and maintaining a personal voice within the studio system
GG’s interview with director Sing J. Lee about his feature debut
The intersection of personal history and narrative storytelling in The Accidental Getaway Driver
Sing’s transition from music videos to feature filmmaking
Writing and directing with emotional and cultural authenticity
Memorable Quotes:
"It’s been a long time since something original entered the cultural lexicon."
"Artists should work on something that not only matters to them but that the world needs to hear about."
"We’re looking for the vessel for where our voice might be best suited."
"You’ve already done so much work, whether you know it or not."
Guest:Sing J. Lee – IMDb
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Apr 18, 2025 • 60min
The Secret to a Calm Film Set with Director Mimi Cave
Director Mimi Cave joins No Film School’s GG Hawkins and guest co-host Madison Lanesey for a candid conversation about her path from dance to directing, maintaining artistic vision in the studio system, and fostering a grounded and collaborative atmosphere on set. Mimi opens up about the emotional rollercoaster of filmmaking, the practical steps she takes to craft immersive visual tones, and how she cultivates trust with her actors and crew. The episode offers a rare glimpse into the behind-the-scenes processes of her features Fresh and Holland, along with valuable insights for emerging filmmakers.In this episode, No Film School's GG Hawkins, guest co-host Madison Lanesey, and guest Mimi Cave discuss...
Mimi’s creative origins in dance and how it led her into filmmaking
The challenges and strategies of transitioning from indie to studio features
Post-feature emotional “off-boarding” and how to manage the crash
Establishing a calm and collaborative environment on set
How she works with actors and tailors her directing approach to each personality
Maintaining creative control within the studio system
The importance of curiosity, asking questions, and embracing not knowing
Building strong collaborative relationships with DPs, editors, and producers
Memorable Quotes:
"You get addicted to that... being needed all day is really amazing."
"Take everything two days at a time... Anything after that's going to change anyways."
"I walked into the set and I was like, you could hear a pin drop... it was so peaceful."
"Some of the best filmmakers ever are some of the most unique, nerdy, freaky, out there people."
Guest:Mimi CaveResources:
Fresh – Available on Hulu
Holland – Available on Amazon Prime Video
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Apr 11, 2025 • 56min
Why Playing It Safe Will Ruin Your Movie — Blumhouse Hit Director Christopher Landon on Drop
Writer-director Christopher Landon joins No Film School’s GG Hawkins to discuss his newest film Drop, a sharp, suspenseful thriller starring Meghann Fahy. Known for genre-bending films like Happy Death Day, Freaky, and We Have a Ghost, Landon dives deep into his evolution as a filmmaker, how he overcame early failures, the importance of authenticity in storytelling, and the meticulous craft behind building tension. Landon also opens up about creating a supportive environment on set, casting with intuition, and how trusting his gut has shaped his career.In this episode, No Film School’s GG Hawkins and guest Christopher Landon discuss:
How Christopher Landon’s love of horror movies began as a kid
Early career failures and how they became pivotal learning moments
Writing and selling Disturbia and joining the Paranormal Activity franchise
The "feel-good horror" tone he discovered with Happy Death Day
How Drop evolved from script to final film
Shooting in sequence to elevate performances
The importance of a supportive, no-asshole policy set
How trusting his gut guides casting, shooting, and script decisions
Advice for emerging filmmakers working within the studio system
Memorable Quotes:
"Failure is the greatest teacher."
"If it ain’t on the page, it ain’t on the stage."
"Casting is the one thing where I tune everybody out. I have to know it in my marrow."
"Hollywood is seductive — don't chase the shiny things."
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Apr 3, 2025 • 58min
What They Don’t Tell You About Editing a Feature with 'Sacramento' Editor
What don't they tell you? They you gotta take a break! In this episode, No Film School's GG Hawkins and Jason Hellerman sit down with editor Max Goldblatt, who cut the heartfelt and hilarious indie road trip film Sacramento. Directed by Michael Angarano and starring Michael Cera, Kristen Stewart, and Maya Erskine, the film made waves at Tribeca and has since garnered a devoted following. Max shares how he got into editing, his long-time collaboration with Angarano, and offers invaluable insight into the nuanced craft of post-production—especially on a tight budget and timeline.In this episode, No Film School's GG Hawkins and guest Max Goldblatt discuss...
How Max and director Michael Angarano formed their creative bond through music
The challenges and victories of licensing a Rolling Stones song for an indie film
Editorial techniques like split compositions and how they elevate performance
Why taking breaks during the edit can lead to better storytelling
Max’s unconventional path into editing and the moment he almost walked away from filmmaking
The balance between instinct and structure when cutting complex character scenes
Memorable Quotes:
“Michael kind of broke the cardinal rule of putting a song in the script.”
“Sometimes there's just this alchemy when you choose something maybe almost at random.”
“I was about to quit trying to pursue film period before I was connected with Mike Angarano.”
“Sometimes it takes feedback or questions that people have about characters, and you realize that the answer was there all along.”
Guests:Max GoldblattResources:
Sacramento on IMDb
Michael Angarano’s first film, Avenues
Robert Schwartzman's film The Argument
Jason Hellerman's article on "Man on a Mission" stories
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Mar 27, 2025 • 1h 6min
How Real Is STAY IN LA? Plus Sundance DPs on Landing Jobs & Getting Shots
In this episode, GG Hawkins and Jason Hellerman tackle the timely question of whether production in Los Angeles is truly back, despite rising costs and the lure of tax incentives elsewhere. They also host a special Sundance DP Roundtable, featuring cinematographers from some of the festival's most talked-about films. These filmmakers share the stories of how they landed their gigs, the creative and technical choices behind their work, and how shooting on location posed unique challenges and opportunities. From the reality of Stay in LA initiatives to working with first-time directors and navigating quick turnarounds or even war-related production pivots, this episode is a deep dive into the craft and chaos of cinematography today.In this episode, No Film School's GG Hawkins, Jason Hellerman, and guests discuss...
The current state of film production in Los Angeles and whether it’s really “back”
Tax incentives drawing productions to places like Ireland, Canada, and Texas
The emotional and practical toll of filming far from home
Behind-the-scenes challenges of indie productions and festival films
How DPs landed their Sundance jobs and their strategies for collaboration with directors
Favorite gear, lenses, and technical decisions from Sundance cinematographers
Working with non-actors, shooting in unpredictable locations, and reacting in real time
Tools, workflows, and prep habits DPs rely on when heading into production
Guests:
Adolpho Veloso – DP of Train Dreams
Mia Cioffi Henry – DP of Sorry, Baby
Ethan Palmer – DP of Plainclothes
Christopher Aoun – DP of All That's Left of You
Memorable Quotes:
"I always say prepping like that is like studying for an exam, and then it’s like not an open book test.”
"You either are not going to sleep because you're working long hours, or because you're anxious because you're not working."
"Some of the best stuff that's come my way has been very low budget."
Resources:
California’s “Stay in LA” push for local production
The new hubs becoming “Hollywood” around the world
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