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Jan 9, 2019 • 43min
Perspectives on Kubernetes and successful cloud platforms (Interview)
Adam caught up with Brendan Burns (co-creator of Kubernetes and Partner Architect at Microsoft Azure) at KubeCon + CloudNativeCon 2018 in Seattle, WA to talk about the state of Kubernetes, the importance of community, building healthy cloud platforms, and the future of cloud infrastructure.
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Featuring:Brendan Burns – GitHub, XAdam Stacoviak – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, XShow Notes:
The Commons Clause
Brendan’s talk at KubeCon — !go, Interacting with and Extending Kubernetes in a Polyglot World
Read The Illustrated Children’s Guide to Kubernetes — Here’s a link to a pdf version of it
Metaparticle is a standard library for cloud native applications on Kubernetes.
cncf/artwork — CNCF related logos and artwork
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Dec 19, 2018 • 1h 4min
State of the "log" 2018 (Interview)
On this year’s “State of the ‘log’” episode we’re going behind the scenes to look back at 2018 as we prepare for 2019 and onward. We talk through our most popular episodes, most controversial episodes, and even some of our personal favorites. We also catch you up on some company level updates here at Changelog Media. We hired Tim Smith earlier this year as our Senior Producer, we retired Request for Commits, started some new shows…
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Featuring:Adam Stacoviak – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, XJerod Santo – GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, XShow Notes:Before we officially head into the year end I wanted to take a moment to thank you for your time and attention, it means the world to us. We work very hard to produce this podcast and we do it for you, the listeners — so thank you. Please be safe over the holiday break. Enjoy your time with family, friends, and loved ones. We’ll see you again in 2019!
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Adam: Drupal is a pretty big deal
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New shows!
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Tim Smith’s Away from Keyboard is a must-listen
Maybe start with episode #4?
We didn’t talk too much about Practical AI, but it’s rad too
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Dec 13, 2018 • 1h 16min
Untangle your GitHub notifications with Octobox (Interview)
Jerod is joined by Andrew Nesbitt and Ben Nickolls to talk Octobox, their open source web app that helps you manage your GitHub notifications. They discuss how Octobox came to be, why open source maintainers love it, the experiments they’re doing with pricing and business models, and how Octobox can continue to thrive despite GitHub’s renewed interest in improving notifications.
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Featuring:Andrew Nesbitt – Website, GitHub, XBenjamin Nickolls – GitHub, XJerod Santo – GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, XShow Notes:
Andrew was a guest on The Changelog #188 and Request For Commits #3
The two met at a 24 Pull Requests event
They’ve been working on Libraries.io for the last couple of years
When it comes to clipboard managers, Andrew recommends Alfred
For all things Octobox, start right here
Or jump straight to its GitHub repo
Find Octobox on GitHub Marketplace
Or support the community on Open Collective
Their Roadmap is also open source
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Dec 5, 2018 • 1h 9min
The insider perspective on the event-stream compromise (Interview)
Adam and Jerod talk with Dominic Tarr, creator of event-stream, the IO library that made recent news as the latest malicious package in the npm registry. event-stream was turned malware, designed to target a very specific development environment and harvest account details and private keys from Bitcoin accounts.
They talk through Dominic’s backstory as a prolific contributor to open source, his stance on this package, his work in open source, the sequence of events around the hack, how we can and should handle maintainer-ship of open source infrastructure over the full life-cycle of the code’s usefulness, and what some best practices are for moving forward from this kind of attack.
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GoCD – GoCD is an on-premise open source continuous delivery server created by ThoughtWorks that lets you automate and streamline your build-test-release cycle for reliable, continuous delivery of your product.
Command Line Heroes – A new podcast about the epic true tales of the developers, hackers, and open source rebels revolutionizing the tech landscape from the command line up. Presented by Red Hat.
Featuring:Dominic Tarr – Website, GitHub, XAdam Stacoviak – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, XJerod Santo – GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, XShow Notes:
The issue that kicked off everything
We covered the incident on Changelog News
Here’s Dominic’s statement that we reference repeatedly
Felix Krause had some on-point commentary on Twitter
TideLift says event-stream gets 2 million downloads per week
SwiftOnSecurity also chimed in on Twitter
Learn more about Project Xanadu
We discussed Reproducible Builds with Chris Lamb back in the day
Also check out A call for kindness in open source with Brett Cannon
Something missing or broken? PRs welcome!

Nov 28, 2018 • 1h 22min
A good open source password manager? Inconceivable! (Interview)
Perry Mitchell joined the show to talk about the importance of password management and his project Buttercup — an open source password manager built around strong encryption and security standards, a beautifully simple interface, and freely available on all major platforms. We talked through encryption, security concerns, building for multiple platforms, Electron and React Native pros and woes, and their future plans to release a hosted sync and team service to sustain and grow Buttercup into a business that’s built around its open source.
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Linode – Our cloud server of choice. Deploy a fast, efficient, native SSD cloud server for only $5/month. Get 4 months free using the code changelog2018. Start your server - head to linode.com/changelog
GoCD – GoCD is an on-premise open source continuous delivery server created by ThoughtWorks that lets you automate and streamline your build-test-release cycle for reliable, continuous delivery of your product.
Fastly – Our bandwidth partner. Fastly powers fast, secure, and scalable digital experiences. Move beyond your content delivery network to their powerful edge cloud platform. Learn more at fastly.com.
Featuring:Perry Mitchell – Website, GitHub, XAdam Stacoviak – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, XJerod Santo – GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, XShow Notes:
Buttercup
Have I Been Pwned: Check if your email has been compromised in a data breach
Key derivation function on Wikipedia
Sallar Kaboli on GitHub
Buttercup Roadmap
Why I love password managers on Changelog News
reproducible-builds.org
The Changelog #237: Reproducible Builds and Secure Software with Chris Lamb
ownCloud - The leading OpenSource Cloud Collaboration Platform
Nextcloud
KeePass Password Safe
Open Source Password Management Solutions
Something missing or broken? PRs welcome!

Nov 21, 2018 • 1h 8min
Tidelift's mission is to pay open source maintainers (Interview)
In this special crossover episode of Founders Talk, Adam talks with Donald Fischer. Donald Fischer and the team at Tidelift are on a mission of making open source work better — for everyone. To pay the maintainers of open source software they are putting a new spin on a highly successful business model that’s a win-win for the maintainers as well as the software teams using the software. In this episode we dig into that backstory and Donald’s journey.
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Linode – Our cloud server of choice. Deploy a fast, efficient, native SSD cloud server for only $5/month. Get 4 months free using the code changelog2018. Start your server - head to linode.com/changelog
GoCD – GoCD is an on-premise open source continuous delivery server created by ThoughtWorks that lets you automate and streamline your build-test-release cycle for reliable, continuous delivery of your product.
Fastly – Our bandwidth partner. Fastly powers fast, secure, and scalable digital experiences. Move beyond your content delivery network to their powerful edge cloud platform. Learn more at fastly.com.
Featuring:Donald Fischer – Website, GitHub, XAdam Stacoviak – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, XShow Notes:
There’s over $1M to pay open source maintainers on Tidelift
It’s time to pay the maintainers!
Tidelift
Is React’s development “supported” by Facebook? That depends.
Havoc Pennington
Jeremy Katz
Luis Villa
Listen to the original episode.
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Nov 14, 2018 • 1h 29min
The road to Brave 1.0 and BAT (Interview)
This week Adam and Jerod talk with Brian Bondy, Co-founder and CTO of Brave. They talked through the beginnings of Brave and how BAT (Basic Attention Token) could be driving the future of how we offer funding and tips to our favorite websites and content creators. Of course, they go deep into the historical and the technical details of the Brave browser and their march to Brave 1.0. The last segment of the show covers how BAT works, how it’s being used, and also their interesting spin on an ad model that respects the user’s privacy.
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Featuring:Brian Bondy – Website, GitHub, XAdam Stacoviak – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, XJerod Santo – GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, XShow Notes:
Brave Browser
Browser.html, an experimental Servo browser in HTML
Muon, a fork of the Electron framework
Request For Commits #11: Funding the Web with Brendan Eich
Tracking Protection in Firefox For Privacy and Performance
StatCounter Global Stats, Browser Market Share Worldwide
BAT (Basic Attention Token)
Something missing or broken? PRs welcome!

Nov 9, 2018 • 1h 27min
There and back again (Dgraph's tale) (Interview)
This week we talk with Manish Jain about Dgraph, graph databases, and licensing and re-licensing woes. Manish is the creator and founder Dgraph and we talked through all the details. We covered what a graph database is, the uses of a graph database, and how and when to choose a graph database over a relational database. We also talked through the hard subject of licensing/re-licensing. In this case, Dgraph has had to change their license a few times to maintain their focus on adoption while respecting the core ideas around what open source really means to developers.
Join the discussionChangelog++ members support our work, get closer to the metal, and make the ads disappear. Join today!Sponsors:Rollbar – We catch our errors before our users do because of Rollbar. Resolve errors in minutes, and deploy your code with confidence. Learn more at rollbar.com/changelog.
DigitalOcean – DigitalOcean is simplicity at scale. Whether your business is running one virtual machine or ten thousand, DigitalOcean gets out of your way so your team can build, deploy, and scale faster and more efficiently. New accounts get $100 in credit to use in your first 60 days.
Algolia – Our search partner. Algolia’s full suite search APIs enable teams to develop unique search and discovery experiences across all platforms and devices. We’re using Algolia to power our site search here at Changelog.com. Get started for free and learn more at algolia.com.
GoCD – GoCD is an on-premise open source continuous delivery server created by ThoughtWorks that lets you automate and streamline your build-test-release cycle for reliable, continuous delivery of your product.
Featuring:Manish R Jain – Website, GitHub, XAdam Stacoviak – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, XJerod Santo – GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, XShow Notes:
Open Source Licensing & Relicensing · Issue #833 · thechangelog/ping
Dgraph — A Distributed, Fast Graph Database
Stack Exchange Data Dump : Stack Exchange, Inc.
Google Inc. Acquires Metaweb Technologies Inc. | Inc.com
Official Google Blog: Deeper understanding with Metaweb
Switching Dgraph to a Liberal License - Dgraph Blog
The History of the LICENSE.md file of Dgraph
Commons Clause License
The Open Source Definition | Open Source Initiative
It’s not okay to pretend your software is open source | Drew DeVault’s Blog
flickrfs - Virtual Filesystem for Flickr
Something missing or broken? PRs welcome!

Oct 31, 2018 • 1h 24min
Drupal is a pretty big deal (Interview)
Adam and Jerod talk with Angie Byron, a core contributor and staple of the Drupal community. We haven’t covered Drupal really (sorry about that), but the call with Angie was inspiring! From the background, to the tech, the usage of the software, the communication at all levels of the community — Drupal is doing something SO RIGHT, and we’re happy to celebrate with them as they march on to the “Framlication” beat of their own drum.
Join the discussionChangelog++ members support our work, get closer to the metal, and make the ads disappear. Join today!Sponsors:Rollbar – We catch our errors before our users do because of Rollbar. Resolve errors in minutes, and deploy your code with confidence. Learn more at rollbar.com/changelog.
Linode – Our cloud server of choice. Deploy a fast, efficient, native SSD cloud server for only $5/month. Get 4 months free using the code changelog2018. Start your server - head to linode.com/changelog
GoCD – GoCD is an on-premise open source continuous delivery server created by ThoughtWorks that lets you automate and streamline your build-test-release cycle for reliable, continuous delivery of your product.
Command Line Heroes – A new podcast about the epic true tales of the developers, hackers, and open source rebels revolutionizing the tech landscape from the command line up. Presented by Red Hat.
Featuring:Angie Byron – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, XAdam Stacoviak – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, XJerod Santo – GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, XShow Notes:
Dries Buytaert started Drupal in 2001
PHP Nuke used to be the bee’s knees (but not really)
2004: The scream that doomed Howard Dean
Acquia employs Angie and other Drupal folks
DrupalCon 2019 is in Seattle April 8-12
Gabe Sullice is working on the API first initiative
webchick on Drupal.org
Differences between full and provisional core committers | Drupal.org
Drupal core maintainers | Drupal.org
Planet Drupal | Drupal.org
News | Drupal.org
API-First Initiative | Drupal.org
Drupal Association | Drupal.org
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Oct 25, 2018 • 59min
Venture capital meets commercial OSS (Interview)
Joseph Jacks, the Founder and General Partner of OSS Capital joined the show to share his plans for funding the future generation of commercial open source software based companies. This is a growing landscape of $100M+ revenue companies ~13 years in the making that’s just now getting serious early attention and institutional backing — and we talk through many of those details with Joseph.
We cover the whys and hows, why OSS now, deep details around licensing implications, and we speculate the types of open source software that makes sense for the types of investing Joseph and other plan to do.
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Featuring:Joseph Jacks – GitHub, XAdam Stacoviak – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, XJerod Santo – GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, XShow Notes:
The Changelog #310 — Open sourcing the DEV community
with Ben Halpern
Request for Commits #9 — Open source and licensing with Heather Meeker
OSS Capital
The $100M+ revenue commercial open source software company index
Commons Clause License
Open Core - Definition, examples, and tradeoffs
FOSSA
GNU AGPL (Affero General Public License)
Mozilla Public License
Version 2.0
Storj
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