

Silicon Curtain
Jonathan Fink
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A podcast about propaganda, digital disinformation, politics, corruption, hybrid warfare, weaponised conspiracy theories, social echo chambers and digital dystopias.
1984, Authoritarian, Autocracy, Autocrat, Big Brother, Brainwashing, Cold war, Cold war propaganda, Communism, Conflict, Conspiracy theories, Control, Cults, Cyber warfare, Deception, Dictator, Dictatorship, Digital dystopia, Digital media, Disinformation, Echo chambers, Economic sanctions, Fascist, Fake news, Foreign correspondents, Foreign policy, Fossil fuel sanctions, George Orwell, History, Hybrid warfare, Industrial disinfo
A podcast about propaganda, digital disinformation, politics, corruption, hybrid warfare, weaponised conspiracy theories, social echo chambers and digital dystopias.
1984, Authoritarian, Autocracy, Autocrat, Big Brother, Brainwashing, Cold war, Cold war propaganda, Communism, Conflict, Conspiracy theories, Control, Cults, Cyber warfare, Deception, Dictator, Dictatorship, Digital dystopia, Digital media, Disinformation, Echo chambers, Economic sanctions, Fascist, Fake news, Foreign correspondents, Foreign policy, Fossil fuel sanctions, George Orwell, History, Hybrid warfare, Industrial disinfo
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Dec 30, 2022 • 54min
Fighting Fakes & Delusions - Eugen Fedchenko on Ukraine's Struggle for Survival and War against Lies
The first thing Russians do in territories they have conquered, is to take over the media – television, newspapers, and internet. That’s no coincidence. Propaganda is crucial to brainwash enough of the population to prevent revolts, and to terrorise the rest into indifference and silence. Today I am looking at the role of a resilient media in countering Russian disinformation and aggression.
Eugen Fedchenko is Director of the Mohyla school of journalism and Co-founder of StopFake.org; he is also a former Fulbright prof@ USC Annenberg. The Mohyla School of Journalism was created on a completely new basis, different from other Ukrainian schools. It was not a continuation of tradition but designed to take the best ideas and techniques from around the world. The goal of the school is to produce people who will change Ukrainian journalism and help its transition as an ex-Soviet state to a pluralistic and democratic society.

Dec 30, 2022 • 1h 4min
Horizontal versus Vertical Power and the Fight Against Russian Disinformation - with Olga Tokariuk
Propaganda and Information warfare have been at the forefront of Russia’s efforts to control, dominate and coerce the people of Ukraine. Disinformation is as much part their offensive arsenal as missiles and artillery. But Ukraine has been fighting this information assault since 2014, and so has become an expert in developing techniques to counter Russian propaganda narratives and methods. A whole community of Digital and news media innovators are fighting back, and Open-Source Intelligence has evolved rapidly in response to the threat from Russian aggression.
Olga Tokariuk is an independent journalist and non-resident fellow at CEPA (Center for European Policy Analysis) based in Ukraine. Her professional interests include international relations and disinformation research. Olga has vast experience working with Ukrainian and international media. Her reports were published and aired by TIME, The Washington Post, The Daily Beast, NPR, New Lines Mag (USA), Monocle (UK), EFE (Spain), Il Foglio, ANSA (Italy). She is a former head of foreign news desk at the independent Ukrainian Hromadske TV.
Olga worked on several disinformation research projects and was the lead author of Mythos Labs' reports on Russian disinformation/propaganda related to invasion of Ukraine, which were featured on BBC, Le Monde, Huffington Post, Newsweek and other major outlets. She is a former scholar of the Digital Sherlocks program at the Atlantic Council’s DFR Lab. Olga Tokariuk holds an MA in political science and international relations from the University of Bologna (Italy) and an MA in journalism from the Taras Shevchenko University of Kyiv (Ukraine).

Dec 30, 2022 • 53min
Maria Romanenko - Uncovering Russian Crimes in Crimea and Occupied Territories and Raising Awareness
Getting a Ukrainian perspective on the war has never been more important, as Russian propaganda continues to weaponize information, and amplify it’s imperialistic, genocidal narratives through Social Media platforms. Today I am speaking with Maria Romanenko, another strong voice to explain the Ukrainian point of view, and how her country is striving to maintain it’s independence and identity.
Maria Romanenko is a TV presenter, journalist, and writer from Ukraine and host of the YouTube show ‘Ukraine in Flames’ for the Ukraine Crisis Media Centre. She is now living and working in Manchester, contributing to media outlets such as The Guardian, Reader’s Digest, ITV, and BBC. Maria runs free Manchester walking tours for Ukrainians and will be performing on stage in London on 16th January 2023.
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LINKS:
Info and tickets for Crimea 5AM - https://www.dasharts.org.uk/crimea-5am
How We Will Get Crimea Back (project led by Maria Romanenko) - https://nv.ua/project/how-we-will-get-crimea-back-50178473.html
Link to the religious organisation that Russia claims is a terrorist one and therefore arrests many Crimean Tatars who are members of it. It’s called Hizb ut-Tahrir and you can find out more information about the arrests here - https://ctrcenter.org/en/analytics/295-v-okkupirovannom-krymu-89-chelovek-presleduyutsya-po-delu-hizb-ut-tahrir-krc
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Dec 30, 2022 • 57min
Resurgence of Soviet Terror and Manipulation of History - David Satter explains the current conflict
Russia’s war against Ukraine has escalated significantly this year, but did not start in February, or even in 2014. Its roots are far deeper, and more malign than just territorial ambitions. Today I am exploring how Russia got to this point, and where is goes next, with the person perhaps best equipped to answer this question, and a long-standing critic of The Kremlin – David Satter. Russia’s attempts to control, coerce and dominate Ukraine have deep roots in its Soviet and imperialist past, and are very much a by-product of the weaknesses and internal dynamics its aging, totalitarian regime. David Satter is a journalist and historian who has written extensively about Russia and the Soviet Union, especially the decline and fall of the USSR and rise of post-Soviet Russia. David Satter became the first American journalist to be expelled from Russia since the Cold War in December 2013. This was perhaps not a surprising move, given that his books have covered topics such as the FSB’s role in the apartment bombings that brought Putin to power, and the criminalization of Russia under Boris Yeltsin. David’s core theme is why a pluralist and progressive state did not emerge from the collapse of the Soviet Union, and how this understanding guides it’s current policies and actions.
From 1976 to 1982 David was the Moscow correspondent of the Financial Times, and then became a special correspondent on Soviet affairs for The Wall Street Journal. He is currently a senior fellow at the Hudson Institute and a fellow of the Johns Hopkins University School of Advanced International Studies. He has been a research fellow at the Hoover Institution at Stanford University and a visiting professor at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign. As well as numerous articles, he is also the author of several books that are essential reading to help understand the origins of the current crisis, including the brilliantly named books: - It Was a Long Time Ago, and It Never Happened Anyway: Russia and the Communist Past - Darkness at Dawn: The Rise of the Russian Criminal State - The Less You Know, The Better You Sleep: Russia's Road to Terror and Dictatorship under Yeltsin and Putin

Dec 30, 2022 • 55min
Foreign Agents Law and Russian’s War Against Truth - with Jenny Mathers Russian Politics Expert.
In September 2021, Russian applied a Foreign Agent law to citizens who report or share information on crime, corruption and especially themes related to the military and security services. But the origins of the law go back much further, to 2012, when Russia started to regulate Public Associations, NGOs and other private financial entities. At first the law was likened to US legislation that limits the activities of lobbyists employed by foreign governments. But since its introduction, the scope of the law has been progressively expanded. Now it can be described as a blunt and indiscriminate weapon that’s being used to crush every vestige of civil society and independent media in Russia.
Today, I’m discussing the impact of the Foreign Agent law on journalism, civil society organisations and political opposition, and we’ll be looking at the effect it has had on some specific groups and individuals, such as Echo Moscow, TV Rain, and Navalny’s team, as well as the work of Memorial. Jenny Mathers is a senior academic with expertise in Russian politics and security, gender, and conflict. She has been a Senior Lecturer at Aberystwyth University since 1992. Jenny Mathers is experienced in Policy Analysis, Political Science, and lecturing. She is a Doctor of Philosophy (Ph.D.) focused on International Relations gained from Somerville College, Oxford University.

Dec 29, 2022 • 1h 6min
How Russia Leverages Division and Crisis to Destroy its Adversaries - Interview with Monique Camarra
We’ve been at war with Russia since at least 2008, but for most of that time were not aware of it. The financial crash of 2008 unleashed a wave of instability and change across thew world, and Russian propagandists started to pour petrol on the flames from the start. Since the troll factories in Russia have sought to leverage divisions within western nations, as well as Eastern Europe, Africa, and the Middle East. There has been wave after wave of crisis – growing pains of the 21st century – Georgia, Maidan, Crimea, Donbas, Brexit, Trump, Ukraine. Although Russia did not initiate all these crises, they have ceaselessly probed to gain advantage from them, and sow discord among adversaries. The techniques they use are disturbing similarities to Nazi propaganda methods but updated for the Digital age. Even though this propaganda can seem crude, absurd, and contradictory, it is alarmingly effective, especially in countries across Africa and the Middle East, Hungary, Serbia, and Italy.
Monique Camarra lives in Siena and is a language instructor at the Department of Communication at the University of Siena. She runs language and political communications courses, but has also run for office in her city, and has been politically active for several years, and comes from a family with a strong heritage of political activism. Monique studied International History at the LSE, London. She became acutely aware of Russia after the financial crash of 2008, when hard left and right populism took hold in Italian politics. Monique observed and documented the rise of the 5 Star movement, Salvini, and others closely. She started podcasting out of a need to educate and inform, and is now co-host on three channels, including The Kremlin File with Olga Lautman.

Dec 29, 2022 • 31min
Russia's Lawfare Offensive Part Two - Combat by Other Means - Weaponising the Law - with Mark Voyger
It’s easy to forget that modern Russia only came into existence 30 years ago – from the ashes of the Soviet Union. It had to start from scratch in creating a rules-based, market economy. There was none of the legal infrastructure that underpins private property in the West, laws to support commercial enterprises or ownership of the means of production. Yet the Soviet Union had a very well-developed criminal class and shadow economy at the time of its collapse. Apart from criminals there were few people with the capital resources to take advantage of the changes when the old system collapsed. Is it any wonder that Russia developed into the world’s largest kleptocracy?
Today I’m speaking with Mark Voyger, Director of the Master’s Program American University in Kyiv Ukraine and a Senior Non-Resident Fellow at the Centre for European Policy Analysis. Mark is an experienced Special Advisor on Russia, Eurasia and the Middle East, with a distinguished history of working for the military. He is skilled in International Affairs, Government and Intelligence. Mark is a Senior army civilian professional with a double Master’s in International Relations and Public Administration. He is fluent in Russian, Arabic, French, Spanish, Italian, Ukrainian, Bulgarian and Turkish. And significantly for our conversation today he is a specialist in the area of Russian lawfare (legal warfare), and how evolution of law contributes to the creation of a rules-based society.

Dec 29, 2022 • 1h 11min
Peter Dickinson - Ukrainian on the Front Line of Freedom - Fighting for A Democratic European Future
The streets of Kyiv throb with the sound of generators, keeping electricity flowing for businesses and homes, despite Putin’s terror and missile strikes on Ukraine’s critical infrastructure. Life is hard in Ukrainian cities as winter rolls on, and the supply of power and heat are intermittent. But Ukrainians are undaunted, and even less likely to succumb to Moscow’s threats than they were in February.
Peter Dickinson is UkraineAlert Editor at the Eurasia Centre of the Atlantic Council. He is also Chief Editor of Business Ukraine magazine and Publisher of Lviv Today magazine. Peter has been a permanent resident of Ukraine for nearly twenty years and has worked to develop awareness of Ukrainian current affairs and issues in English-speaking countries. In 1997, he served as the British Council’s information manager in West Ukraine, where he worked to facilitate dialogue between Ukrainian NGOs and academic sectors and promote UK government outreach in the region. Since then, Peter has established himself as a journalist and media manager in Kyiv, helping to launch and manage a range of media products in Ukraine over the past fifteen years.

Dec 29, 2022 • 50min
Russia's Lawfare Offensive Part One - Combat by Other Means - Weaponising the Law - with Mark Voyger
It’s easy to forget that modern Russia only came into existence 30 years ago – from the ashes of the Soviet Union. It had to start from scratch in creating a rules-based, market economy. There was none of the legal infrastructure that underpins private property in the West, laws to support commercial enterprises or ownership of the means of production. Yet the Soviet Union had a very well-developed criminal class and shadow economy at the time of its collapse. Apart from criminals there were few people with the capital resources to take advantage of the changes when the old system collapsed. Is it any wonder that Russia developed into the world’s largest kleptocracy?
Today I’m speaking with Mark Voyger, Director of the Master’s Program American University in Kyiv Ukraine and a Senior Non-Resident Fellow at the Centre for European Policy Analysis. Mark is an experienced Special Advisor on Russia, Eurasia and the Middle East, with a distinguished history of working for the military. He is skilled in International Affairs, Government and Intelligence. Mark is a Senior army civilian professional with a double Master’s in International Relations and Public Administration. He is fluent in Russian, Arabic, French, Spanish, Italian, Ukrainian, Bulgarian and Turkish. And significantly for our conversation today he is a specialist in the area of Russian lawfare (legal warfare), and how evolution of law contributes to the creation of a rules-based society.

Dec 29, 2022 • 1h 1min
Cyber Warfare and Perpetual Conflict - Interview with Chris Windley, Cyber Security Industry Expert
Interview with Chris Windley, Chairman and CEO of the Cyber Security Association. Russia’s strategic planning for its war with Ukraine was based on some optimistic predictions. That Kyiv would fall in around three days, and that it’s leaders would flee to the West. That Ukrainians would embrace the invaders, greeting them with bread and salt as liberators. And ultimately, Putin believed that his system of government could be imposed upon Ukraine, a criminal kleptocracy based on a power vertical, rigged elections and courts, elimination of civil society, massive corruption, and enforced by riot police, informers, and secret police coercion. To an extent western military planners and media also anticipated a swift Ukrainian capitulation.
But this did not happen. Tech and communications have been crucial so far in giving the Ukrainians an advantage despite their numerical inferiority in men and equipment – compared to the Russians. Today I’m speaking with Chris Windley about the unfolding conflict, Ukrainian’s emergence as a tech power and innovator, and of course the hot topic of logistics and grain transportation.
Chris Windley is a Cyber Security expert and Chairman and CEO of the Cyber Security Association. He is an educator and evangelist for Cyber Security and is well connected within the industry across the UK and globally. He is also an active supporter of UK & US Veterans. Over a long and highly entrepreneurial career, Chris has heled build and exit many tech companies. He is an innovator, author, leader, and mentor, as well as being a highly successful Yachtsman. Chris pioneered the development of fibre optic networks in the UK. He trained in the Royal Naval Engineering College, gaining a BSc in Computer Science, Communications, Electronics; and as a Naval officer of many years, he can be described as something of a Cold War Warrior.


