
The Emergent Strategy Podcast
The official podcast of the Emergent Strategy Ideation Institute - each episode we dive deeply into the life, practice and experimentation of a person or group who we see as living embodiments of emergent strategy. Emergent Strategy is about how we get in right relationship with change - what are the simple interactions that can shift and shape complex systems and patterns? Hosts are Sage Crump, Mia Herndon and adrienne maree brown.
Latest episodes

Jul 22, 2021 • 57min
Relating During the Pandemic with Autumn Brown
Mother, organizer, theologian and writer, Autumn Brown, joins host Mia Herndon on this week's episode of The Emergent Strategy Podcast. In a lively discussion, Autumn talks about parenting during the pandemic, the challenges and positives of relating through technology, and discovers (excitedly) the Hide Self View feature.
Transcript found here.

Jul 8, 2021 • 60min
Finding Freedom in Change: Marcia Lee and En Lee of Taproot Sanctuary
A beautiful episode on co-creating a beautiful life. Marcia Lee and En Lee of Taproot Sanctuary in Detroit, Michigan join host, adrienne, to talk about change, gifts, parenthood, and our precious lives.

Jun 24, 2021 • 1h 5min
Liberatory Logistics with Kandace Montgomery and Miski Noor of Black Visions Collective
"What does it mean to live in a world that could value all Black people and what does it mean to move towards that?" Miski Noor poses this question on today's episode of The Emergent Strategy Podcast. Organizers Kandace Montgomery and Miski Noor from Black Visions Collective in Minneapolis, Minnesota join host, Sage Crump, to talk about care as strategy, what they value as organizers working in community, and why folks shouldn't sleep on Minneapolis.

Jun 10, 2021 • 58min
Earth: A Primary Source and Relative with Leah Penniman
"For most of human history, the way that we got our information -- we read the stars, we read the weather, we read the directionality of the migration of the birds...there was a way we were very versed in the primary source of earth," said Leah Penniman, Co-director and Farm Manager of the beloved Soul Fire Farm. Penniman is also the author of Farming While Black: Soul Fire Farm's Practical Guide to Liberation on the Land. This week on the Emergent Strategy Podcast, Mia and Leah talk about spirituality as it pertains to the land, adaptation during the pandemic, how to not perform your solidarity, and singing to your seeds. Happy June, ya'll.
Transcript found here.

May 27, 2021 • 1h 1min
Boundaried in Love with Prentis Hemphill
The Emergent Strategy Podcast brings you a tender conversation between adrienne and this week's guest, Prentis Hemphill. Prentis is a teacher, an embodiment coach and group conflict facilitator. Prentis is also the founder of The Embodiment Institute. Prentis and adrienne talk somatics and setting boundaries with both our intimate and public relations.
Transcript found here.

May 13, 2021 • 1h 3min
Chaos Minded with Mwende Katwiwa
Performer, speaker, author, poet, Mwende Katwiwa, joins Emergent Strategy podcast host, Sage Crump, to talk about poetics, question what is seen as inherent, and the generative space of being chaos minded.

Apr 29, 2021 • 1h 1min
Dreaming While Black with Walidah Imarisha and Calvin Williams
"How do we start from building our own worlds and envisioning them rather than try to adapt what we've been given by some else?" Walidah Imarisha, writer and dreamer with Calvin Williams of Wakanda Dream Lab join host, adrienne maree brown, for this Emergent Strategy episode.
The only requirement: your imagination.

Apr 16, 2021 • 1h
The People's Aesthetic with Harold Steward and Tonasia Jones
Harold Steward and Tonasia Jones from The Theater Offensive, join Emergent Strategy's Architect, Sage Crump, on the podcast. Steward and Jones engage listeners with the ongoing process of deep change at The Theater Offensive. The conversation is a steady reflection on the ways they implement Emergent Strategy in sitting with complexity (and maybe finding some joy in complexity), and creating a space that centers people and relations. Excellent listening for anyone, but especially those in nonprofit work who are looking to implement a strategic plan, work collectively to create a new work culture, and interested in working from the future.

Apr 1, 2021 • 56min
Spiritual Hygiene and Saying Yes with Alexis Pauline Gumbs
Alexis Pauline Gumbs, Black queer troublemaker, love evangelist and cousin to all life joins ESII podcast host Mia Herndon to talk about Emergent Strategy immersions, the role of spirit and saying yes. Listen to this episode with a companion - actually, go back and listen to all of these episodes with a beloved or beloveds. With love.

Mar 18, 2021 • 57min
Planetation, Music and Change with Toshi Reagon
Musician, Toshi Reagon, joins host, Sage Crump, on the Emergent Strategy Podcast to talk about the brilliance of Parable of the Sower, music as change, and parenting and being parented (the latter sometimes by her daughter).