

All Things Sustainable
S&P Global
Tune in to All Things Sustainable, a podcast from S&P Global (formerly ESG Insider). Each week we explore the critical sustainability topics transforming the business landscape. Join us every Friday for engaging interviews with global leaders and clear explanations of the latest sustainability headlines.
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Sep 3, 2021 • 22min
What Nasdaq's diversity rule tells us about the direction of disclosure in the US
In early August, the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission approved a proposal by Nasdaq to require companies listed on the New York-based exchange to disclose certain board diversity information. In this episode of ESG Insider, we explore what the rule means in practice for companies and investors. We hear from Matt Patsky, the CEO of Trillium Asset Management, about why investors view board diversity as a material factor — and what the SEC approval indicates about the direction of disclosure in the U.S. "The SEC's willingness to approve this Nasdaq board diversity rule sends a strong signal that they believe there's materiality to diversity," Matt says. "And with that belief, I think it means we're moving closer to the SEC mandating disclosure of diversity information from companies broadly." For the corporate and regulatory perspective, we talk with Cam Hoang, a corporate securities and SEC compliance lawyer and partner at the law firm Dorsey & Whitney. We also hear the recruiter's perspective on the new rule from WSS Executive Search CEO & Founder Becky Heidesch, who has been helping companies find candidates with diverse profiles for decades. In the episode, you'll hear us refer to an S&P Global Market Intelligence analysis of gender diversity on U.S. company boards and executive teams. You can read that research here: https://platform.mi.spglobal.com/web/client?auth=inherit#news/article?id=65743394&cdid=A-65743394-9776 To learn more about human capital management disclosures in the U.S., listen to this earlier episode of ESG Insider: https://traffic.libsyn.com/secure/esginsider/ESG_Insider_US_Diversity_Regulations_-_v3.mp3 Photo credit: Getty Images

Aug 27, 2021 • 25min
In fighting climate change, major IPCC report finds every little bit matters
A sobering new report from the U.N.'s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change tells corporations and governments in no uncertain terms: Act with urgency to lower emissions and adapt to the impacts of climate change at a more rapid pace and bigger scale. In this episode of ESG Insider, we look at the implications of the IPCC report for investors and companies, and we talk to two scientists who helped write the nearly 4,000-page document to better understand its key findings. Claudia Tebaldi, a scientist with the Joint Global Change Research Institute at the Pacific Northwest National Laboratory and one of the report's authors, says incremental changes can make a big difference — for better or for worse. "Every little bit matters," says Claudia. "This is in the bad sense that every little bit of warming is making the situation worse, but also that every little thing that we can make to slow down and stop [global warming] is going to matter." We also talk to Kirsten Spalding, senior director for the investor network at Ceres, on how the lPCC's latest findings will shape future investor engagement with companies on climate change. The report shows that "the need for action is even on a shorter timeline than we knew before," Kirsten says. Photo credit: Getty Images

Aug 20, 2021 • 15min
TCFD gains momentum as climate reporting shifts from voluntary to mandatory
Several countries will soon make it mandatory for large companies and asset managers to calculate and publicly report their climate-related risks. It's a complex accounting challenge and many businesses aren't fully prepared. The governments of the U.K., New Zealand, Hong Kong and Switzerland, as well as the G7 group of nations, are among those backing mandatory reporting under the Taskforce on Climate-related Financial Disclosures, or TCFD, framework. The push towards compulsory TCFD reporting will put pressure on banks, businesses and asset managers that have yet to embrace such disclosure. A big reason why many companies struggle with TCFD implementation is because it's hard to collect, collate and analyze detailed emissions-related data in all areas of their operations. Companies also need to train their employees on technical aspects of reporting under the framework. Above all, TCFD implementation must be roundly embraced and instilled — all the way from the C-suite to product and client-teams — and that takes time. In this episode, we speak to Thora Frost, senior manager of green finance at the Carbon Trust, a London-based consulting firm that works on climate change and sustainability issues. And we interview Matthew Townsend, partner at U.K. law firm Allen & Overy. "You have a blizzard of regulation and policy coming down the line, certainly over the next five years, and I don't see it letting up in many jurisdictions," Townsend says. Photo credit: Getty Images

Aug 13, 2021 • 20min
Defining green: What investors need to know about the EU taxonomy
If you've been following sustainability headlines over the past few years, chances are you've heard about the EU's green taxonomy — essentially, a dictionary that defines how sustainable a business or sector is. It assesses more than 100 economic activities and is designed to steer companies as they adapt their business strategies to climate change, as well as help investment funds judge sectors based on their environmental performance. Investors will also have to disclose what percentage of their investments are in line with the taxonomy. The new regulation is expected to radically change how investors and companies report on their environmental performance. It will be enforced from 2022, which does not leave investors a lot of time to get up to speed. And the taxonomy is not quite finalized, with further regulation expected in 2023 — creating some big challenges for investors trying to navigate the changing sustainability landscape. To talk us through what investors can expect from the taxonomy, we spoke to Helena Viñes Fiestas, commissioner at Spain's Financial Markets Authority. She's also rapporteur of the EU Platform on Sustainable Finance, a body of experts from industry, finance and civil society who advise the EU's executive arm on the future of sustainable finance policy in Europe. "I like to compare it a little bit with food products," Helena says of the taxonomy. "If you market your product as low fat, it's only fair to ask how much fat it has and whether or not it's too much. This is exactly the same, where the taxonomy becomes the recommended daily intake." Photo credit: Getty Images

Aug 6, 2021 • 19min
'Unfathomable': Why US investors, regulators are rethinking human capital management disclosures
Wall Street's top regulator, the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission, is in the early stages of creating a number of new ESG-related disclosure rules, including on the issue of human capital management. Human capital management refers to the way that companies manage their workforce. It includes things like a company's approach to hiring, recruitment, pay and benefits, and the working conditions a company provides. Right now, public corporate disclosures on these topics are voluntary in the U.S. But many investors say that leads to insufficient and inconsistent data. "I think it's unfathomable that, in this day and age, the only metric that companies are currently required to disclose is the number of people that they employ — especially when we talk to every company and they tell us that their human capital is their most important asset," says Aeisha Mastagni, a portfolio manager in the sustainable investment and strategies group at the California State Teachers' Retirement System, one of the largest public pension funds in the U.S. "And yet we as investors have no way to measure that, benchmark that, compare it to other companies in our portfolio." In this episode, we explore the changing state of human capital data disclosure in the U.S., why some investors want disclosures to become mandatory, and what to expect from the SEC. We also talk to securities and governance lawyers at the Philadelphia-based law firm Dechert and with Bryan McGannon, director of policy and programs at US SIF: the forum for responsible and sustainable investment.

Jul 30, 2021 • 15min
Record floods highlight climate risks to business in Europe's richest nations
In mid-July 2021, the heaviest rainfall in a century triggered intense flash floods and inundated several towns in Germany, the Netherlands and Belgium, causing at least 188 deaths. The floods in Europe are a reminder that although emerging markets are likely to be hit hardest by a temperature rise, richer countries in the northern hemisphere are far from immune from the effects of severe weather. In this episode, we talk with experts to understand the biggest climate risks facing Europe's biggest economies, analyzing physical risk data from S&P Global Trucost. Guests on the episode include Irene Lauro, an economist with asset manager Schroders; and Swenja Surminski who leads adaptation research at the Grantham Research Institute on Climate Change and the Environment at the London School of Economics. And we talk to Berenberg Bank analyst Michael Huttner about how the floods could impact insurance companies.

Jul 23, 2021 • 17min
CSRD: EU's latest proposed addition to alphabet soup of sustainability regulation
The podcast discusses the EU's proposed Corporate Sustainability Reporting Directive (CSRD). It explores the need for consistent ESG data, the expansion of reporting requirements, and the obligatory auditing of sustainability reports. The episode also covers the concept of double materiality, the impact on SMEs, and the potential effects of mandatory reporting standards on disclosure and data usability.

Jul 16, 2021 • 19min
What EU's proposed green bond standards could mean for market
The EU has proposed a European Green Bond Standard as part of its strategy to drive investment into sustainable finance and achieve net zero carbon emissions by 2050. The new rules will also aim to protect investors from greenwashing, which is when an investment is made to sound greener than it is. Although they represent a tiny fraction of the overall debt market, green bonds — debt that finances environmentally friendly projects such as wind farms or solar power — have grown rapidly over the last eight years, from virtually nothing in 2012 to nearly $300 billion in 2020. The EU is counting on further growth in the market to meet the targets in its European Green Deal, designed to mobilize at least €1 trillion of sustainable investment over the next 10 years. The rules will be tougher than other existing green bond guidelines because issuers will have to prove their green bonds are financing projects in line with the EU's "green taxonomy," a dictionary of sustainable activities. In this episode, we speak to Climate Bonds Initiative CEO Sean Kidney, who was part of an advisory group that helped shape the new rules. Regulation has "been right from the beginning, a feature of the development of the market. Issuers have followed the regulations, and it's grown to be a very large successful market," he tells us. Listen to our episode on the EU's green taxonomy: https://open.spotify.com/episode/5b3qx805nauyVGvcJo9Wsr Photo credit: Getty Images

Jul 9, 2021 • 18min
The new task force in town: TNFD co-chair talks biodiversity goals
The world's biodiversity is in peril and its loss poses big financial risks to businesses and the global economy. More than half of the world's economic output — or about $44 trillion — is moderately or highly dependent on nature, according to the World Economic Forum. Moreover, the collapse of biodiverse ecosystems could hurt global GDP by $2.7 trillion annually by 2030, the World Bank warns in a new report. Until recently, biodiversity loss was rarely viewed as a substantial risk to corporations. But that is changing and a new task force has been formed to help companies and financial institutions better understand the scope of the risk. The Task Force on Nature-related Financial Disclosures, or TNFD, aims to create a voluntary framework that companies can use to assess their nature-related risks and opportunities. In this episode, we talk with Elizabeth Mrema, who is co-chair of the TNFD, about the goals of the task force, how she envisions them being implemented and how biodiversity is inherently linked to climate change.

Jul 2, 2021 • 17min
How Cousteau's grandson is bringing oceans to ESG investors
More than 50 years ago, explorer Jacques Cousteau introduced millions of viewers to the marvels of the undersea world. In 2021, the ESG world is increasingly focused on biodiversity, and the oceans are a big part of that picture. Goods and services from the world's oceans and coasts are worth at least $2.5 trillion annually, while the overall value of the ocean as an asset is at least 10 times that amount, according to a 2015 estimate from the WWF. In this week's episode, we interview Cousteau's grandson, Philippe, the co-founder of a nonprofit called EarthEcho International that works on ocean health. "It's important to start thinking about a restoration ethic and returning the oceans to abundance," says Philippe. "For far too long, the environmental movement has been a movement of deprivation and doom and gloom. It has not been enough of a movement of opportunity and hope." We also hear from Doug Heske, CEO of impact investing company Newday Impact that has teamed up with Philippe to promote ocean restoration, especially among younger investors. And we interview fund manager Paul Buchwitz from one of Germany's largest asset managers, DWS, about how the company is aiming to ocean-related risks while tapping into new investment opportunities offered by ocean restoration projects. Photo credit: Getty Images


