
What Next | Daily News and Analysis
The problem with the news right now? It’s everywhere. And each day, it can feel like we’re all just mindlessly scrolling. It’s why we created What Next. This short daily show is here to help you make sense of things. When the news feels overwhelming, we’re here to help you answer: What next? Look for new episodes every weekday morning.
Latest episodes

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Feb 7, 2025 • 24min
TBD | Is Elon Musk Unstoppable?
Makena Kelly, a senior writer at WIRED, dives into the ambitious and controversial initiatives driven by Elon Musk's vision for government efficiency. They discuss the unsettling impacts of a federal email offering resignations, which highlights employee anxiety amid staffing cuts. The conversation shifts to the role of young talent in Musk’s enterprises, showcasing their significant contributions. Lastly, they explore Musk's political influence, raising questions about accountability and his actions' implications for future governance.

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Feb 6, 2025 • 30min
Guantanamo Bay’s Comeback Is a Warning
Andrea Pitzer, author of One Long Night: A Global History of Concentration Camps, dives into the alarming resurgence of Guantanamo Bay as a detention center for immigrants, challenging assumptions about its closure. She examines the complex immigration policies and the implications for human rights. With a historical perspective, Pitzer discusses the labeling of detainees and the troubling realities behind transparency in government operations. The conversation raises crucial questions about legal exceptions and the risks of repeating past injustices.

Feb 5, 2025 • 33min
DOGE V. USAID
Franco Ordoñez, a White House correspondent for NPR, and Fred Kaplan, Slate’s war stories correspondent, delve into the intriguing challenges facing USAID. They explore why the agency, vital for humanitarian support, is under scrutiny and its funding facing freezes. The discussion covers the historical role of USAID in diplomacy, contrasting it with military interventions. They also touch on the organization's turbulent past, particularly during the Trump era, and examine how external critiques, including from figures like Elon Musk, have shaped its future.

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Feb 4, 2025 • 31min
Are Airplane Crashes Inevitable?
Dan Kois, a seasoned writer at Slate and author of five books, dives into the pressing issues of aviation safety. He discusses the alarming increase in near misses and the systemic challenges faced by air traffic control due to staffing shortages. The conversation critiques the political blame game following recent crashes, questioning Congress's commitment to safety versus convenience. Kois also examines the impact of pilot shortages and calls for a transparent culture in aviation, urging a reevaluation of our societal values regarding safety.

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Feb 3, 2025 • 35min
Trump’s Anti-Trans Agenda
In this discussion, Major Alivia Stehlik, a West Point graduate and Army Ranger, along with Kate Sosin, an LGBTQ+ reporter, tackle pressing issues facing transgender individuals in the military. They explore the emotional toll of Trump's anti-trans policies, emphasizing the vital role of trans service members. Insights into the struggles of navigating identity in an evolving military landscape and the implications of recent executive orders highlight the urgent need for advocacy and reform in transgender healthcare and rights.

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Feb 2, 2025 • 29min
TBD | The DeepSeek Panic
In this conversation, Zeyi Yang, a senior writer at WIRED specializing in Chinese tech and AI, examines the impact of DeepSeek's innovative and cost-effective AI model. They discuss the intense competition between the US and China in AI development and the implications of DeepSeek's success on American strategy. Yang highlights the transformative potential of open-source technology and critiques the US government's responses to China's advances. The discussion also tackles consumer behavior shifts and the evolving landscape of AI models.

Jan 31, 2025 • 4min
Bonus | Main Character Syndrome: Deepseek
Delve into the buzz surrounding DeepSeek, a new contender in the AI chatbot arena. Is it a groundbreaking innovation or just a low-cost imitation? The discussion reveals its impressive launch metrics and what sets it apart from competitors. Additionally, the segment spotlights significant political stories, ensuring a sharp focus on critical events shaping our world today. Tune in for insights that blend technology with current affairs!

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Jan 31, 2025 • 30min
TBD | RFK Jr. Is a Feature, Not a Bug
Dan Diamond, a White House correspondent for The Washington Post with a rich background in health care journalism, delves into the contentious nomination of Robert F. Kennedy Jr. as health secretary. They discuss RFK Jr.’s controversial history with vaccines and how it shapes public health narratives today. The conversation highlights the political tensions during Senate hearings, critiques the Trump administration's healthcare strategies, and examines the far-reaching implications of RFK Jr. potentially reshaping the healthcare establishment.

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Jan 30, 2025 • 32min
Was Tulsi Gabbard Always Like This?
Elaine Godfrey, a staff writer for The Atlantic focused on national politics, dives into the complex trajectory of Tulsi Gabbard’s career. They discuss Gabbard's transformation from a progressive Democrat to Donald Trump’s nominee for Director of National Intelligence. Godfrey highlights Gabbard's controversial past, including her meetings with foreign leaders and the scrutiny she faces over her qualifications. The conversation reveals the challenges in political reporting surrounding Gabbard, shedding light on the dynamics of her nomination amidst polarized politics.

Jan 29, 2025 • 31min
Trump’s DIY Government Shutdown
In this discussion, Karen Tumulty, a political columnist for The Washington Post, delves into the chaos unfolding in federal operations under the Trump administration. She highlights the confusion among federal employees due to recent funding freezes and examines the legality of such actions against Congressional mandates. Tumulty sheds light on historical instances of presidential overreach while questioning whether the current political climate signals a constitutional crisis. She warns of the risks of authoritarianism emerging within the government, urging greater public awareness.